I had to watch this for myself because I couldn’t believe it but yes, Nelson - who has mainstreamed the hatred that he is now hearing - sounds genuinely shocked at the extent of what he has unleashed. Good grief. He really was and is that naive. - ThreadSky

okwonga.bsky.social • 82 days ago

I had to watch this for myself because I couldn’t believe it but yes, Nelson - who has mainstreamed the hatred that he is now hearing - sounds genuinely shocked at the extent of what he has unleashed. Good grief. He really was and is that naive.

Reposted from Eddie Burfi

So tired of this “you can’t be English if you’re brown” far-right bollocks.

Proof that you may rise to be PM but you still won’t be ‘English’ enough for some.

Not often I side with ex-Spectator ed Fraser Nelson, but I am all for him challenging the racist ‘blood purity’ crap of Konstantin Kisin.

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vakeel1961.bsky.social•82 days ago

Ppl like Nelson think that bigotry is just a tool you can take out to attack ppl they don't like - then have the audacity to act shocked when it's not so easy to put the tool back in the box.

ibrahimmustapha.bsky.social•82 days ago

Baffling to see the “fair play to Fraser Nelson for pushing back” response to this. Like he is isn’t largely responsible for enabling and pushing this exact narrative

okwonga.bsky.social•82 days ago

Yes exactly

dorianlynskey.bsky.social•82 days ago

Did he think what he published would have no effect? That he could lie down with Douglas Murray and not get racist fleas?

williambone.bsky.social•82 days ago

Thinking back on what I said about a lack of cordon sanitaire I think he genuinely did. There's a theme in the British right of "well you know how (insert extremist) is like". There's a view of they are the curious cousins who can come to the party but no one would ever think they are like us.

dorianlynskey.bsky.social•82 days ago

He seems oblivious to the consequences of his policy of publishing every view, no matter how extreme

williambone.bsky.social•82 days ago

Goes back to how for some, this is an academic exercise without real world impacts. Its not exclusive to Fraser but I remember the defensiveness of Private Eye and Ian Hislop when they were confronted with their vaccine denialism around MMR. Or the Times when Melanie Phillips was quoted by Brevik

dorianlynskey.bsky.social•82 days ago

It’s the establishment version of “just asking questions”

williambone.bsky.social•82 days ago

I'm always reminded of the first time I got to be involved in professional wargaming. The reminder by the leads that as much as this was an exercise that the conclusions drawn would have a material impact on policy, it was suitably sobering.

patricklappin.bsky.social•82 days ago

He just didn't care whether he did or he didn't. The video is an act of dumbwashing.

okwonga.bsky.social•82 days ago

I think he thought that commentators would hate most of the non-white masses but would not hate the non-white people who he likes personally, and who had “proved themselves”.

williambone.bsky.social•82 days ago

It's the phrase I used to hear from more socially conservative acquaintances when I objected to homophobia "I don't mean you, you're one of the good ones"

jayzedbee.bsky.social•82 days ago

I think he in some ways is like a well married man that makes money publishing pornography - he has a certain contempt for base racism like that, he thinks its crass and odd to indulge in it yourself instead of "just" using it for personal profit

dorianlynskey.bsky.social•82 days ago

Remarkable cognitive dissonance

eddydescalier.bsky.social•82 days ago

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cjayanetti.bsky.social•82 days ago

Love to see Kisin describe the blood in Berwick upon Tweed

cepmurphy.bsky.social•82 days ago

I'm left curious about what the guy's son thinks he is. Does _he_ think he's English and is going "ah no Dad's off on one again"?

ashherbert.bsky.social•82 days ago

Kisin’s whole ‘a dog born in a stable isn’t a horse’ argument just falls apart if his kid - who was born in England - ever has a kid that is born in England. By his own argument, his dog son will have a horse child so what’s the fucking point in drawing that imaginary line around his son?

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