its amazing the way conservative arguments fall completely apart in court when there are actually penalties for lying - ThreadSky

ndrew.bsky.social • 9 hours ago

its amazing the way conservative arguments fall completely apart in court when there are actually penalties for lying

Reposted from Ari Drennen

lol

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jadehawk.bsky.social•2 hours ago

"it's not like i randomly picked you off the street" ROTFLMAO

tgagemurphy.bsky.social•8 hours ago

🤣 "It's not like you are just anyone off the street..."

technocracygirl.bsky.social•5 hours ago

The podcast Knowledge Fight has a series of episodes titled Formulaic Objections, where they listen to clips from various depositions, primarily from InfoWars employees, mostly in regards to InfoWars's lies about Sandy Hook.

technocracygirl.bsky.social•5 hours ago

It is absolutely fascinating how much they try desperately to get out of answering questions, and how utterly different their rhetoric is between being under oath and not being under oath.

fldsofgld.bsky.social•5 hours ago

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

rozrk.bsky.social•5 hours ago

Oh man, if that government lawyer was my son/daughter, i would demand a repayment of all education expenses. And yes, the pickle costume in the 3rd grade play counts!

dougb1.bsky.social•8 hours ago

The reason they don’t have any definition is that none of their arguments, claims, or accusations are made in good faith. Once that basic characteristic of the right wing is understood, a lot of things become eminently clear. Their sole goal is power through any means.

dougb1.bsky.social•8 hours ago

And power by any means to enable them to enact changes in society that will make it a war amongst the poor for the few benefits charged to them by the extremely wealthy.

tbrianwolf.bsky.social•7 hours ago

I'm sure Trump will find some unprecedented and terrifying route to get his way but for now it's really funny that Trump's lawyers are still so fucking stupid and the weakness of his administration

okgrown.bsky.social•6 hours ago

At some point they will just argue for getting to scream the N word and rape woman legally with no recourse. They are just putting legal window dressings on it currently.

on-tannhausergate.bsky.social•5 hours ago

This is it for every Republican anywhere, any venue where there are consequences for lying every value every belief they have completely falls apart

spenceinaustin.bsky.social•8 hours ago

Trumpists get really pissed off when challenged to explain why they kept getting their asses handed to them when they had to present actual evidence in court of 2020 election fraud.

gastropoda.bsky.social•8 hours ago

Why “Anora” is the movie for right now. Even crooked lawyers don’t want to risk losing their license.

jopam.bsky.social•7 hours ago

Exactly. They speak in such vague generalizations but when asked to specify or define them they cannot. Same with providing proof of fraud. Keep challenging!

davidsjass.bsky.social•3 hours ago

The burden of telling the truth has been the limiting factor in Trump court cases since he took the 2020 election to court. The court is the 'finder of fact', and it leaves Trump's mouthpieces in babel-tongued retreat.

horvatt.bsky.social•8 hours ago

Central European here.
Who is this Reyes person and how can one send a bottle of champagne to them?

matejcernoch.bsky.social•2 hours ago

If Republicans were always fined for lying, there would be no need for taxes to fund highways, schools, military and Healthcare.

nicho9las.bsky.social•8 hours ago

Exactly. Or when they’re asked to define literally any of their buzz words. What exactly do they mean by political correctness (speech they don’t like) identity politics (identities they don’t like), judicial activism (opinions they don’t like) states’ rights (for laws they like) etc. etc.

misterautumn.bsky.social•8 hours ago

They all revert to Ed Meese.

davidfetter.bsky.social•8 hours ago

There is still time to carry out Hunter S. Thompson's recommendation for Ed Meese.

mike.doughney.net•8 hours ago

They can't be openly racist, misogynist, and xenophobic, all the time, to cast most everyone around them as the enemy to be vanquished, so instead they'll beat to death the "radical gender ideology," "DEI" and "woke" substitutes.

brett006.bsky.social•2 hours ago

Seeing his lawyers get pantsed by judges is one of the few joys I still have left

orthofirebrand.bsky.social•8 hours ago

That's why I have been hammering on the idea of filing mass bar complaints against Pam Bondi and Kash Patel. A few disbarments for lying in court or lying in public should have a bracing moral effect on Trump's legal counsel.

davidfetter.bsky.social•8 hours ago

It will not.

The idea that the legal system is a shield against, rather than a weapon of, those in power is just not consistent with reality.

orthofirebrand.bsky.social•7 hours ago

Apologies again. That LAST article did not mention the disbarment of Trump-Thug lawyer Lynn Wood:

https://www.coloradopolitics.com/courts/trump-supporting-attorney-lin-wood-disbarred-in-colorados-federal-trial-court/article_0c7eca02-9ad7-11ee-997a-a38a794fe8b2.html

orthofirebrand.bsky.social•7 hours ago

I apologize. The Newsweek article omitted the disciplinary proceedings and other sanctions against the "Kraken Lady," Sydney Powell and 5 other notorious Thuggist Trumpist "Roy Cohn Wannabees" including Lynn Wood:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/supreme-court-trump-sanctions-lawyers-sidney-powell-2020-election-michigan/

orthofirebrand.bsky.social•7 hours ago

Hmmmm.....I think you are wrong.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-lawyers-disbarred-law-licenses-suspended-chesebro-giuliani-cohen-1978351

tehlasercat.bsky.social•7 hours ago

Note that the DoJ got so eviscerated by this judge that they filed an ethics complaint against her.

charlesintense.bsky.social•5 hours ago

Hahahahahahahahahahaha

They’re all literally dip shits

thistledown2.bsky.social•6 hours ago

🤣🤣 The judge’s response is 🔥🔥

joshsnider.bsky.social•6 hours ago

There is NOTHING conservative about these right wing nihilists. Let’s not let them steal our language too

seonaid-lee.bsky.social•3 hours ago

"No, seriously. What does this word mean? The law hinges on accurate interpretation of semantics. It's not just a nice-to-have extra."

correctquestion.bsky.social•7 hours ago

Conservative arguments are nothing but right wing media talking points

So naturally they are ill defined and cannot withstand scrutiny

Propaganda v. Reality

The right excels at the former, but fails miserably at the latter in almost every context

newandabitalarming.bsky.social•7 hours ago

This is awesome. Also, lovely to see you in my feed again.

rafilce.bsky.social•8 hours ago

The last thing an unprepared lawyer wants to hear is “call your first witness”

bytor0509.bsky.social•7 hours ago

What I’m waiting for is for the Courts to enforce their judgements

infinitelyloopy.bsky.social•6 hours ago

I could read this judge’s comments all day.

‘I’ll give you a box of cigars’ in response to her incredulity of the government being able to produce a witness to back up their claim of 22,000 trans people degrading fighting capability was one of my favorites

messyjess.bsky.social•8 hours ago

When your job is stepping on rakes 9-5

jim0novak.bsky.social•6 hours ago

We talked about this in 2020.

What’s the court to do:

In court: “No, your honor, we have no evidence of voter fraud.”

On courthouse steps: “The court ignored the evidence of voter fraud.”

hogan590.bsky.social•2 hours ago

motown.bsky.social•8 hours ago

“get this dumb motherfucker out of my courtroom”

davidfetter.bsky.social•8 hours ago

At least in theory, a judge has WIDE latitude when it comes to things under the umbrella of "contempt."

scottklair.bsky.social•5 hours ago

lmao lawyers dumb af “penalties for lying” so few and far between they practically (meant literally) don’t exist.

justhangingout.bsky.social•7 hours ago

If only they could turn every institution in twitter. WAIT...

catharsis23.bsky.social•8 hours ago

I really really really think someone needs to accuse Trump or Musk of lying to their face in a setting where they cannot run away

davidfetter.bsky.social•8 hours ago

That "setting where they cannot run away" thing is not trivial to arrange, not least because it does not exist anywhere in the current power structure. Worth it, though.

ktheintz.bsky.social•8 hours ago

We saw this throughout Trump's court challenges to the 2020 election, where none of his lawyers were willing to allege

ktheintz.bsky.social•8 hours ago

I hit send without finishing the sentence! anyway, obviously, none of his lawyers were willing to endorse the conspiracy theories of Trump and his followers as officers of the court.

ndrew.bsky.social•9 hours ago

also realizing that over the last decade there hasnt been a single journalist thats asked a single republican to define this thing that has been their only campaign stance

wndlb.bsky.social•7 hours ago

Most wouldn’t know a critical race theory if you hit them upside the head with one.

siobhanftb.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Strictly speaking not true--trans journalists have. Many of our editors pushed us out. 🙃

webrant.bsky.social•7 hours ago

Whenever they can't use it to bully they abandon and move on to the next scapegoat.

Because intimidation is the point.

https://bsky.app/profile/ndrew.bsky.social/post/3lirhsbiiq22p

mfelps.bsky.social•35 minutes ago

If journalists asked questions they didn't like, they'd lose access, and journalists care more about their careers than they care about doing their jobs.

carlailara.bsky.social•8 hours ago

Correct. Same w “woke.”

boomerfsj.bsky.social•5 hours ago

That is a very good point.

insortediaboli.bsky.social•8 hours ago

Really odd, so strange.

Anyway, let’s go ask their favorite substacker, Matt Yglesias why

moronthislater.bsky.social•8 hours ago

Our "journalists" miss most of what appears obvious.

correctquestion.bsky.social•7 hours ago

“Radical gender ideology” is like any other effective slogan — the listener is free to fill in his own meaning. Like “Yes We Can” (maybe the last *effective* democratic slogan … which was 17 years ago. Says a lot about the D-Party)

dougom.bsky.social•7 hours ago

They can’t define “woke”, either.

imaroo.bsky.social•56 minutes ago

Or CRT.

kawotter.bsky.social•7 hours ago

There's been one or two but the infuriating thing about journalists is that when an interview falls apart like that they just...move on to other questions as if the entire premise of the interviewee's position hasn't been obliterated.

steve1970peng.bsky.social•7 hours ago

Which is ?

jb3po.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Still waiting for the first consequence

ideologyeater.bsky.social•8 hours ago

I just can't stop thinking about how pathetic it is that he made a complaint afterwards. And then they claim to be "manly"

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