The emulsifiers that are best to be avoided in foods www.wsj.com/health/welln... like polysorbate 80, xanthan gum, guar gum, carboxymethylcellulose - ThreadSky

erictopol.bsky.social • 4 days ago

The emulsifiers that are best to be avoided in foods
https://www.wsj.com/health/wellness/emulsifiers-make-food-more-appealing-do-they-also-make-you-sick-be0850ae
like polysorbate 80, xanthan gum, guar gum, carboxymethylcellulose

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clicksanise.bsky.social•4 days ago

Watch out for these common, benign-looking ingredients in your food, especially in foods you think of as healthy. They are EVERYWHERE once you start looking. I get a migraine with 24-48 hrs of nausea when I eat too much of them, but had no idea of the larger health effects.

4gabriel.bsky.social•4 days ago

I wonder if this is the irritant that triggers diverticulitis or other reactions in the gut with people- I notice that highly processed foods can be a trigger with or w/out nuts

darkshogun.bsky.social•4 days ago

What's wrong with GWAR?

rogerjacucci.bsky.social•4 days ago

There's nothing wrong with #Gwar that Shari Lewis can't fix...

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2Hlt05rLmbZe45lATz56hC?si=mwjFR9-YQf2RUcFby4y0ag&pi=8k3AzkdSROu0C

secondborn.bsky.social•4 days ago

Chaotic neutral

vmcat.bsky.social•4 days ago

TY 📌

annetha.bsky.social•3 days ago

Big jump from polysorbate 80 and carboxycellulose to the gums, but I've read only good things about Acacia Senegal, guar gum, etc. -- anti-inflammatory, good effects on microbiome, etc. Some concerns with carrageenan.

cjmartes.bsky.social•4 days ago

I am sensitive to polysorbate 80 and it’s not just in foods it’s in biologic medication and other meds. It’s a known carcinogen also.

vale-wanderer.bsky.social•4 days ago

I figure it won't matter how true this is. RFK Jr. Is name dropped in the article so certain segment of the population will just automatically ignore it and even attempt to add emulsifiers to their food.

abbie4science.bsky.social•4 days ago

probably disrupt bacterial films... among other mechanisms

i-am-there.bsky.social•4 days ago

“People who consume xantham gum have a higher risk of developing type 2 diabetes”

Maybe it’s not the xantham gum but the 2 gallons of ice cream you’re eating!

ajparkes.bsky.social•4 days ago

Soooo....basically, all processed food.

jackwrangl.bsky.social•4 days ago

Interestingly enough, many of the ingredients listed are used in gluten-free foods. So who benefits if people avoid these ingredients, and therefore gluten-free foods?

Would those folks have any connection to this study?

Unfortunately we live in a post-truth reality and need to be very diligent.

jhermann.bsky.social•4 days ago

Also vaccines don't work.

albogdan.bsky.social•4 days ago

I read studies that proved this over 10 years ago.

chaz-wyman.bsky.social•4 days ago

Sady Dariush Mozaffarian is only an epidemiologist and such bodies of evidence only show correlation, not causation. People who eat emulsifiers are also eating many other things that could be causing these negative indications. Take away: eat real food.

tjfinan.org•4 days ago

Xanthum gum? Crap. That’s used by a lot of people with celiac…

ajnyx.bsky.social•4 days ago

It's really common in low carb/low GI foods as well, I've used it many times! 😕

unwindoakland.bsky.social•4 days ago

Yes. Creates the singular experience of having diarrhea and constipation at the same time. About 30% of people get gummy tummy. When trying to figure out what foods are triggering the celiac, this can be very confusing. It's also unnecessary. Chia, flax, and psyllium, work fine.

thecherrybombe.bsky.social•4 days ago

Exactly this. Xanthan gum is in nearly every shelf stable/frozen gluten free product on the market.

hazdaz.bsky.social•4 days ago

Once again, we are letting big corporations poison us all for that all-mighty dollar because we are too afraid to stand up to them and set regulations.

defeline.bsky.social•4 days ago

📌 They are everywhere!

suzanne1968.bsky.social•4 days ago

I have been having gut issues for awhile now. Stopped using flavored creamers that use veg oil and voila, gut issues all but stopped. They are killing us with food and refusing to insure responsibily for a healthier nation.

gunkdrunk.bsky.social•4 days ago

Your tummy ache didn't kill you Suzanne

suzanne1968.bsky.social•4 days ago

Oh, thanks for your insightful medical report.

partoftheproblem.bsky.social•4 days ago

The fuck? GI issues left unaddressed can and will kill folks via malnutrition, or worse, ya walnut. She’s lucky she figured out what was causing hers, and that it was a simple solution.

drmccoy1969.bsky.social•4 days ago

Same. My gut doesn’t like flavored creamers either. Which is a shame, because my taste buds LOVE them.

partoftheproblem.bsky.social•4 days ago

*sips non-dairy creamer-sweetened coffee slowly* 🫣 If THIS is what fucked up my guts a few years back and NOT gluten, I’m gonna be SO pissed. Guess I’m buying some half and half soon. Should just learn to drink it black tho anyways 😅

suzanne1968.bsky.social•4 days ago

I use half and half with a dash of vanilla simple syrup and mesquite honey as my sweetner. I'm not anywhere as twisted up as I was.

tylermiddleton3.bsky.social•4 days ago

If you’re getting fire-walled: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/health/other/emulsifiers-make-food-more-appealing-do-they-also-make-you-sick/ar-AA1A9xl3

missgiven.bsky.social•4 days ago

You can make ice cream at home, yoh know. It’s not even hard.

noahgift.bsky.social•4 days ago

So sad America's food is poison, similar to its tech and media

feureau.bsky.social•4 days ago

What is this, a newspaper for ants?

astill73.bsky.social•4 days ago

📌

riffcahokiashill.bsky.social•4 days ago

Why are there so many gum defenders in the replies??

thoughtcriminal.bsky.social•4 days ago

I'm sure Hair Führer and Elmo's FDA will get right on this.

chancegravy.bsky.social•4 days ago

What about soy lethicin?

cloudysnakes.bsky.social•4 days ago

We're looking at workcamps and potential starvation, and this guy is like, "them there emulsifiers is gunna kills you." Like we don't already know our food is poison.

stellarfaze.bsky.social•3 days ago

I think it’s wild my potato salad from the store says xanthan gum is in it 3 times…

jilliana77.bsky.social•4 days ago

Xanthan gum is used a lot for gluten free baking.

tootswoot.bsky.social•4 days ago

📌

rugged-buddha.bsky.social•4 days ago

Sounds like big soy, to me.

drcj.bsky.social•4 days ago

Thank you for sharing.

Stabilisers (emulsifiers, E400s) are a migraine trigger for me.
I have known this for 35 years.
It’s really good to finally read something that might explain this 🙏

maccolin.bsky.social•4 days ago

My GI tract could have told you that

gooddogrex.bsky.social•4 days ago

No shit. Just read Metabolical by Lustig

thedrummer.bsky.social•4 days ago

"Kennedy has said the FDA will investigate food additives"

Yeah? Who and on what budget? I don't see anyone investigating anything that might hurt profits for a while. And, as for me, I've made it past 70, so I'm still going to eat my ice cream.

jhguth.bsky.social•4 days ago

These should be banned from ice cream simply because they make the texture awful

lilyflagg.bsky.social•4 days ago

I found this interesting before seeing the pro-trump bs stories linked at the bottom. Will look it up elsewhere.

texsuns3.bsky.social•3 days ago

Think of emulsifiers as basically, soap. 😝

silverrain64.bsky.social•4 days ago

I'm aware of the irony of saying this to a literal doctor, but.... Citations needed? Seems like this article is doing a lot of jumping to conclusions from a few data points and correlations.

babsbookaddict.bsky.social•4 days ago

Is the whole article based on 16 people fed an unknown quantity of a single emulsifier because yeah... not exactly meeting any bars for rigour is it?

ecomethius.bsky.social•4 days ago

Margaret Thatcher strikes again...

oledanielson.bsky.social•4 days ago

Their ubiquity is had to avoid

foreversideways.bsky.social•4 days ago

Don't waste your breath the US is enthral to fast junk food which is why the US is the most obese nation on the planet. Even your president looks like porky pig on his Mac and Cola diet. You have also been exporting this junk around the world for decades making others fat and obese.

foreversideways.bsky.social•4 days ago

I am no fan of the food lobby but my observation is that consumed in moderate quantities these things are not something to be concerned about. However they aren't consumed in moderate quantities, vast numbers of people (particularly in the US) consume masses of them because there diets are so bad.

uniondesign.bsky.social•4 days ago

Well that's quite a gut punch

dbay1.bsky.social•4 days ago

It took maybe 20 mins for the corporate food lobby to show up here, telling people not to believe this.

gooddogrex.bsky.social•4 days ago

There are plenty of people hooked up on processed food who live in denial. It's convenient

moldybasil.bsky.social•4 days ago

I'm not sure it's a good practice to assume everyone skeptical of a WSJ science piece is a secret corporate shill. Given the general lack of supporting evidence for the piece.

It sounds very plausible! But you can say a bunch of shit that sounds plausible it doesn't make it real.

allenwhitlock.bsky.social•4 days ago

“secret corporate shill” is a lazy argument.

allenwhitlock.bsky.social•4 days ago

And an accusation of wrongdoing with no evidence.

moldybasil.bsky.social•4 days ago

I understand that the pathological skepticism drilled into folks in graduate school (at least in biological sciences, I can't speak for other areas of study) is not necessarily healthy but I'm not sure what about an article like this could instill enough certainty to make that kind of claim

moldybasil.bsky.social•4 days ago

It's an interesting topic and personally I'm very skeptical of food additives in general but we need to be less credulous

moldybasil.bsky.social•4 days ago

In fact I think it's probably good to be more skeptical than not about basically any science reporting in a newspaper. Especially one without a list of citations you can double check

druicybuns.bsky.social•3 days ago

Yep. Science journalism is notoriously bad at communicating the results of a study. Look at the reference to the big study, they found a correlation to heart disease, type 2 diabetes, and cancer. Great, how do we know this is caused by emulsifiers?

druicybuns.bsky.social•3 days ago

Extremely well established research in the field shows that these outcomes are also correlated with consumption of cured meats, alcohol, processed foods, and socioeconomic status. We can't evaluate this study unless we know if and how these confounding variables were controlled for.

druicybuns.bsky.social•3 days ago

At the end of the day, if you read this article and think to yourself, "hey I have GI distress on a regular basis, maybe I should try dropping some emulsifiers out of my diet" then good for you. If you're eating more fresh/frozen produce and less Hostess snack cakes you're almost certainly

oraclestwin.bsky.social•4 days ago

I can’t eat most ice cream (and many other foods) - the emulsifiers make me sick. Good to get this out to people.

bumborassclth.bsky.social•4 days ago

After 64 years on this earth. NOW A WARNING?

miakepia.bsky.social•4 days ago

Impeccable reference

akonthego.bsky.social•4 days ago

Sorry, WSJ, me no read.

oldmanant.bsky.social•4 days ago

Bro, I'm just microwaving shit in styrofoam now like fuck it...

rogerjacucci.bsky.social•4 days ago

Bird Flu will get us all, first.

c-majuscula.bsky.social•4 days ago

I know this list doesn't match your list but I have a growing list of food additives I need to read labels to avoid:

Acesulfame potassium - most diet sodas have switched to this
Chicory/inulin - protein booster
Maltodextrin - stabilizer
Buckwheat - replacing wheat in "cookie bits" in other items

cryptaesthesia.bsky.social•4 days ago

If you want to save lives and not promote nonsense... tall the mob how many people have died cause of religion.. lol emulsifiers...

cryptaesthesia.bsky.social•4 days ago

So you are saying food people have been eating since the 1930s is no longer good for you.... yeah....

azaleedelanda.bsky.social•4 days ago

I'll check it out after we wrap up WW3. Thx!

williamreece.bsky.social•4 days ago

Years of research down that tray below the soft-serve nozzle…

2karl.bsky.social•4 days ago

WSJ is compromised

nancyusa.bsky.social•3 days ago

Maybe the headline should be "STOP EATING ULTRA PROCESSED FOOD"

grinning-gremlin.bsky.social•4 days ago

I don't take health advice from Wall Street Journal reports on "emerging research" that "may suggest" a link.

Because I have a working memory. There's always some new bugbear and it rarely if ever turns out to be a serious issue in the long run.

Also, EGGS are an emulsifier. C'mon now.

fakekraid.bsky.social•4 days ago

Mustard too

ute-rall.bsky.social•4 days ago

It’s about ARTIFICIAL emulsifier, which are not digested and disturb your gut microbiome. That’s also why soy lecithin is less harmful.

mrobespierre.bsky.social•3 days ago

After you insulted me and posted false information, maybe you shouldn’t give nutritional information or advice.

In case you want to get informed. The most weight a woman can maintain on 2000 cal per day is about 135 pounds. It’s called the laws of physics.

https://www.stevenscreek.com/goodies/calories.shtml

hornlm.bsky.social•4 days ago

At 71, I can remember so many food fads, supplements, diets, food warnings (red wine good, red wine bad) I wait to see how many last.

I do wish the supplements industry was regulated.

And I’m sick of that “Harvard-trained cardiologist “
constantly shilling his stuff on YouTube.

katrynlanthier.bsky.social•4 days ago

A good not for profit Consumer Lab - they test supplements for the label contents - drug store, Costco etc… also publish any studies about particular supplements. I won’t buy any supplement with out checking with them - worth the yearly subscription!!!

zoramon1.bsky.social•4 days ago

I appreciate that they test product they go out and buy in random stores rather than rely upon the manufacturers to give them samples to test.

hornlm.bsky.social•4 days ago

What’s the name?

katrynlanthier.bsky.social•4 days ago

https://www.consumerlab.com/

gooddogrex.bsky.social•4 days ago

Eggs are not ultra processed food (by itself), emulsifiers are not even a food. And adding one makes any food ultra processed (NOVA4). You say "but eggs", I say - tobacco

grinning-gremlin.bsky.social•4 days ago

Tell me you don't bake without telling me you don't bake.

Emulsifier describes any ingredient that binds imiscible fluids. Eggs are an emulsifier, but there are many others.

Eggs contain lecithin. Soybeans also contain lecithin. Either works, but soy is cheaper at scale. You see how this works?

gooddogrex.bsky.social•4 days ago

You are an idiot - I do bake. In fact, I bake my own bread every fucking week. I also don't have metabolic disease, like most Americans do. If all is so fun and dendy, tell me, why only 12% of the population is estimated to be metabolically healthy? https://sph.unc.edu/sph-news/only-12-percent-of-american-adults-are-metabolically-healthy-study-finds/

grinning-gremlin.bsky.social•4 days ago

If you've ever made your own mayo or aioli, you emulsified a fat with water using eggs.

Don't panic over outrage bait. If they come back with a large, methodologically robust study that reproduces the findings, then consider changing recipes. Stories like these usually end up going nowhere.

gooddogrex.bsky.social•4 days ago

Bruh, you are comparing "emulsifiers in eggs" aka just fucking eggs with industrially produced chemicals added to real food at whatever proportion big food industries want to keep their products shelf life longer & attract customers.I do not panic.I have a PhD in biology and did research in diabetes

mrtnt.bsky.social•4 days ago

📌

falk13falk.bsky.social•4 days ago

Good shit found in lots of American food!

buttonspider.bsky.social•4 days ago

Moderation

bursera.bsky.social•4 days ago

Breyers Ice Cream used to be one of the few to not use them. They sold out a few years ago. Never responded to my queries why?

ella42.bsky.social•4 days ago

Turkey Hill makes a good ice cream without additives. Non-fat milk, cream, sugar, vanilla, and vanilla bean for the one I buy. It’s called Simply Natural, and it’s more expensive than their regular ice cream, but worth it to avoid the guar gum, etc.

bursera.bsky.social•3 days ago

Good news. Thank you!

ayoosilver.bsky.social•4 days ago

What! Almost all mentioned are ingredients...

marchad.bsky.social•4 days ago

I have looked at this. I am a genius. Dumb scientists keep discovering things with food that are unsafe. I have wasted no time and signed a mandate to protect American food production, and banned scientists.
Yours
Donald Trump

writeit.bsky.social•4 days ago

Does chloramine in tap water kill gut bacteria?

muralirk.bsky.social•4 days ago

Glad to learn more

Home made food from organic produce is worth considering when possible

friendsofdoge.bsky.social•4 days ago

Yeah people dont realize its like consuming detergent.

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