Watch the simulation to see how anti-vaxxers put all of us at risk. RFK Jr claims he's not against vaccines, 'just' mandates. But here's the bottom line: "In populations where a large enough proportion of children are not immunized, everyone has a greater risk of catching the disease." #NoToRFKJr - ThreadSky

letatcestmoi.bsky.social • 62 days ago

Watch the simulation to see how anti-vaxxers put all of us at risk.

RFK Jr claims he's not against vaccines, 'just' mandates.

But here's the bottom line: "In populations where a large enough proportion of children are not immunized, everyone has a greater risk of catching the disease."

#NoToRFKJr

Reposted from Madhu Pai, MD, PhD

Beautiful simulation to explain why vaccine coverage matters

www.theguardian.com/society/ng-i...

Comments

nonkoolaidedrinker.bsky.social•62 days ago

Vaccination has to be mandated, too many stupid people will not allow us to reach herd immunity.

rogerman99.bsky.social•61 days ago

You only have to look at COVID booster uptake, or even flu shots, in the absence of mandates. Politicized Public Health is a failure.

mamaro2020.bsky.social•62 days ago

this stuff was basic AP BIO IN HS back in the r we really this dumb now?????

sue-2cats.bsky.social•62 days ago

Some of us are.

ziggy-50.bsky.social•61 days ago

I’m so old I remember quarantine signs on people’s doors.

thejenniwren.teamlh.social•62 days ago

Also, “A Shot in the Arm” is a must-watch exposé on vaccine denial and RFK Jr.’s deadly role in the Samoan measles outbreak.

Now streaming FREE on https://PBS.org and the PBS App. This documentary includes damning evidence and footage of RFK Jr.

Call your senators—urge them to watch and take action!

sallydeal4.bsky.social•59 days ago

We just watched it. I recommend sharing it widely. I loved the fact, too that it was pointed out how HORRIBLY we fared with COVID. A huge section of the population has no idea how badly Trump mishandled COVID, esp. Faux News viewers.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
Check the death/100K pop. tab

sallydeal4.bsky.social•59 days ago

As @libtardthis.bsky.social wrote in her article. Trump didn't win. Disinformation did.

https://sabrinahaake.substack.com/p/trump-didnt-win-disinformation-did

tenacioush.bsky.social•60 days ago

Watched and got some great insights, thank you for the post!

thejenniwren.teamlh.social•60 days ago

I’m glad!

nakanotakeko.bsky.social•61 days ago

It’s called ‘vaccine herd immunity’ and it’s the only way these vaccine protocols work.

That why what JFK Jr is suggesting (just a mandate not a requirement for young children attending schools is so insane.

Without ‘vaccine herd immunity’ disastrous pandemics will keep coming, wave after wave.

nakanotakeko.bsky.social•61 days ago

The H5 bird flu in question is officially known as the A/H5N1 avian virus, it’s beginning to spread.

The new variant of the virus is taking heavy toll and wild as well as domesticated animals.

That’s happening right now.

With Trump coming into office this is looking like a perfect storm.

mrsblocking.bsky.social•61 days ago

With vaccine herd immunity they still come, but we have a higher chance surviving them! Look what 5-7 times Covid/Long-Covid does to people!!! Even mild ones!

etherialspirit.bsky.social•62 days ago

Having had measles as a young child, I can attest to it being a horrific disease. My siblings got it from me almost immediately.

mrsblocking.bsky.social•61 days ago

Better as a child than adult - even worse. Friend had!

letatcestmoi.bsky.social•61 days ago

Highly contagious, causes scarring and loss of sight. Kills.

Who wouldn't want a vaccine against that??

kjtdemo.bsky.social•62 days ago

What I would like to know can the insurance industries not pay for treatment for those illnesses that are preventable through vaccines

this1wierdgirl.bsky.social•61 days ago

No because that's eugenics.

mrsblocking.bsky.social•61 days ago

Why should they! No more vaccines or no thank you choice - you get sick, you're on your own!

mrsblocking.bsky.social•59 days ago

#antivaxxers won

barbcapo.bsky.social•61 days ago

sadly there are a ot of slow learners , and they would rather put there families at risk.

sue-2cats.bsky.social•62 days ago

Many people who grew up having measles, mumps, and chicken pox and survived think that should be the norm. You will never convince them otherwise. Chicken pox leaves you with a lifelong potential for shingles later.

duckmsw.bsky.social•62 days ago

I visit families who have and/or want children for a living, while also raising my son and helping to care for my dad. I sought vaccines when they became available to adults, because I don't take risks. It's the decent thing to do.

trysalis.bsky.social•61 days ago

I slept on my shingles vax (not antivax, just busy/distracted) and lived to regret it.

suckerpunched79.bsky.social•61 days ago

Not to mention CP can leave some gnarly scars. I have some on my left chest from getting CP in grade school. I don’t want anyone to deal with that let alone just having the virus was absolutely awful. Getting sick and risking your health on purpose is insane. I’ll never understand it.

sue-2cats.bsky.social•61 days ago

I remember having chicken pox probably in the early 60s, but I did not have any scars. I remember it being itchy.

suckerpunched79.bsky.social•61 days ago

The time but it wasn’t long after that first one that I was covered in blisters and felt like absolutely ran over rubbish. I remember the one highlight was I actually got that damn book so I got to read it in between napping. My siblings got it too and my brother got it twice. It’s awful shit.

suckerpunched79.bsky.social•61 days ago

I remember being in the school library super excited cuz it was a book fair day and I’d actually gotten money to buy the book I’d been dying to get. I remember my chest itching a couple inches down from my collarbone and there being like a blister thing that popped. I didn’t know what it was at ⬇️

letatcestmoi.bsky.social•61 days ago

That's really such a good point.

We should mandate the vaccine because chicken pox kills.

But it's also just a really miserable illness that makes (mostly) kids suffer. Who would want to make kids suffer?

Oh, right. Republicans.

suckerpunched79.bsky.social•61 days ago

Yeah they only seem to “care” about kids when they’re in the womb. After that they could not give two shits. Buncha hypocrites to be damn sure.

mrsblocking.bsky.social•61 days ago

Which is not killing, but bloody painful - can last for months - years!! Avoid! Have bought the expensive vaccines!! USD220 each!

cvilletgr.bsky.social•61 days ago

I had all these (combination of bad medical advice to my parents and being born before some vaccines were available) and the experience ensured that my kids got all the shots.

letatcestmoi.bsky.social•62 days ago

Ask Samoans what they think about a "norm" of measles.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/25/opinion/rfk-jr-vaccines-samoa-measles.html

trysalis.bsky.social•61 days ago

Any chance we could get a gift article, pretty please?

kraigpeck.bsky.social•62 days ago

Opposing vaccination requirements is similar to opposing other great technological triumphs of civilization: clean tapwater, sewers, refrigeration, electricity, food safety regulations, and democratic governance. It’s turning back the clock to the days when living to age 40 was a long life.

mrsblocking.bsky.social•61 days ago

Pasteurized milk ;)

pittsburghlady.bsky.social•61 days ago

drjohndesmarteau.bsky.social•62 days ago

Simulations are fine but the real world clearly shows what happens when there is inadequate levels of vaccination. Example measles. In 2023 there were 10.3 million cases worldwide, a 20% increase from 2022, and 107,500 deaths mainly in kids under 5.

holminjone.bsky.social•61 days ago

Rfk Jr thinks it is caused by chemtrails

letatcestmoi.bsky.social•61 days ago

You're 100% right. We shouldn't need simulations, when real-world experience and rising death rates tell us what we need to do.

But it doesn't seem to get across. If dead children don't convince people we need vaccines, maybe cartoons will do it. It's mind-boggling.

mrsblocking.bsky.social•61 days ago

Now whooping cough a lot. Bird flu etc.

widerstand.bsky.social•61 days ago

Hello! Been screaming it from the rooftops. A relative is not going to vaccinate her children but she hopes everyone else does so her children will be protected. I let it be known how selfish that is. It is not good citizenship like I was taught.

escapepodready.bsky.social•61 days ago

It’s why we are going to a sane place. Where we won’t die from fucking bird flu. I don’t want to be killed by a man who works out at the gym in his jeans.

macweirdo42.bsky.social•61 days ago

If I had a nickel for every time someone shouted "herd immunity" without understanding that mandatory vaccinations are a critical component to developing herd immunity...