Many veteran military analysists have pointed out that if we see Russia as a military foe, our support is not only in the interest of the US, it's also bargain for the damage done to the USSR for the money spent.
He is right, but he means that best for USA in relation to few olicharchs, not to american citizens. For US citizens, the best thing is to save democracy, save international law and international trade. Not to enrich already rich people.
"No, You don't understand, It's not that Putin is a dictator who wants to see the fall of the United States of America so that he can attempt to expand in Europe. YOU'RE Asking the wrong questions" - J.D. Vance
So if you agree to sell your country out to Russian interest you are a good immigrant! /pat on the head! I am surprised he didn't say white people in his comments when he said immigrants trying to use American rights against him!
Who's going to tell him that the national interest of the united states is aligned with a victory of Ukr.They are throwing away decades of alliances and international rules,to be replaced with distrust and disconnection.the us will remain as one of the great powers, not the leader of the free world.
There is a large population of Ukrainians here in Dayton. I know lots of them. They still cling to their culture, music, language, etc. It's no different than any of the other immigrants that still have "old country" traditions. Not everyone's family traditions involve doing drugs like his.
There is nothing interesting in Trump's words (or Vance's ) (or Peskov's)(or Putin's)(or Musk's)(or Waltz')(or Medvedev's)(or Witkoff's)(or Levitt's)(or Lavrov's)
Speaking as an American of German descent, both of whose Grandfathers, also of German descent, fought the Nazis in WW2, yeah, Americans of immigrant background should be, and usually are, willing to fight their old homelands on behalf of the new when needed.
He's such a joke. Immigrants usually bring their cultures with them. It's why we have the best food in the world. Can you imagine if we only had English food because of the founders? No Italian, German, Mexican, Spanish, Cuban, etc.? I'd be miserable. 🤣
The United States is a hegemon with no peers.
The United States has no allies, only interests.
To be an ally of the United States is dangerous, to be a friend—deadly.
Vance perfectly explains nationalism, which has now progressed to fascism. And Ukraine being invaded by Russia is NOT an ‘ethnic rivalry.’ It’s an invasion. What an idiot.
How fittingly myopic. New country, old country, what difference does it make? It is a country being invaded by a foreign aggressor. That should be enough to tell this moron whose side he should be on.
I was born in Czechoslovakia. My country was founded by an agreement between the Czech and Slovak communities in the USA, who signed the Pittsburgh Agreement. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_Agreement
Bringing the conflict to an end rapidly with any means necessary isn't the same as bringing the conflict to an end in a just and long lasting way. Russia must not be allowed to take a break just to rearm their military and go at Ukraine again.
JD Vance reducing war and sovereignty violations to ‘ethnic rivalries’ is peak modern right-wing sophistry. Strip away the buzzwords, and it’s just an excuse for shrugging at war crimes and dismantling international law.
I'm sure this is exactly as it happened, instead of the guy calling him a treasonous sack of shit, at which he smiled and waved, pretended he didn't hear, and walked away.
Great holy grieving gophers' gonads but you are one dim-witted, short-sighted little twit, aren't you?
I'm sure your alleged encounter contains as much truth as Kent Hovind's "debate with philosophy professor"; i.e., it never frocking happened.
pathetic pathological liar
In this you see not only his narrow mind but also his complete ignorance. For anyone who has moral integrity it's not difficult to judge the war in Ukraine and all of the information is there. To view it as some ethnic rivalry whilst knowing what we know is deliberate ignorance for a purpose.
Twat did you expect? Little JD Goebbels is a self-professed hillbilly and not of the good kind (I've met my share, must say they're mostly curious, more compassion in'em than must of us); nothing to see here.
well he thought he became citizen in "... the home of the brave and the land of the free ..." probably not OK with this changing to the "... the home of egoistic traitors and dictator poodels ...". Cause seems that is what Vance thinks is the nations "best interest".
Let's assume this story is true. Vance has no convictions, on patriotism, no pride in being an American. What gives Vance the right to lecture a Ukrainian-American on what it means to love America?
Vance loves the US so much that he is tearing up its Constitution. A real American sees beyond shortsighted goals and sees that defending the eastern flank of Europe and reducing Russia's power will save countless future American lives.
Even if that's true, which it isn't, how is what's happening in the "best interests of the United States"? Becoming a pariah nation isn't really in our best interests.
I take "things that definitely never happened" for 500, Frank.
"Please refer to the USA as your country, while I watch your relatives and friends burn, even though our country promised to protect them" is an asshole move either way.
This asshole wrote a whole book complaining that his mother being a hopeless junkie was everyone else's fault except hers. His judgment is strange and so is his manner and he has no business telling other people what to think. Maybe he needs some attention after a month of Dumb and Dumber.
And how exactly is it in the best interests of America to abandon long-time loyal allies and partnerships with democratic nations, to instead partner up with evil dictatorships like Russia and North Korea?
It is more complicated. Dual citizenship / dual loyalties are a problem if your work has to do with national security. As an immigrant you have to be loyal to your new home country but of course you have the right to campaign to support a foreign country, just like all citizens.
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How very patriotic
america will NEVER be great again
That explains it all.
Russian talking point parroted by a witless Putin sycophant.
The only good JD Vance is one that lets the sunflower seeds in his pocket bloom.
That man is full of 💩
Every word from the bearded mouth is a lie.
And „go home“.
So you have no word on this kind of matters.
This is not one of those times.
The United States has no allies, only interests.
To be an ally of the United States is dangerous, to be a friend—deadly.
Apparently.
Which reminds me... did they stop eating the dogs and cats, or does JD just not give a damn anymore since he got elected.
He wants you to blindly follow their russia-backed KKK cult.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_Agreement
Good the know.
Nothing further than plain fascism this way of finding new enemies every day!
But vance & trump's loyalties are to putin, not to the U.S.
I'm sure your alleged encounter contains as much truth as Kent Hovind's "debate with philosophy professor"; i.e., it never frocking happened.
pathetic pathological liar
A traitor if i ever saw one.
It's a stretch to infer he is smart.
"Please refer to the USA as your country, while I watch your relatives and friends burn, even though our country promised to protect them" is an asshole move either way.
And only does what's best for RUSSIA, not the "United States"
Or at the very least, completely abandon India if it needs assistance.
We sent 181 million dollars in aid to India last year.
That shit needs to stop NOW.
This is America!
Plus, the average American should care for those in need, both foreign and domestic.