A generation of infants are being born HIV+ today who should have been born HIV-free because one of the principal propagandists of AI bullshit in the world dismantled PEPFAR and USAID. - ThreadSky

joolia.bsky.social • 6 hours ago

A generation of infants are being born HIV+ today who should have been born HIV-free because one of the principal propagandists of AI bullshit in the world dismantled PEPFAR and USAID.

Reposted from Eric Topol

On @60minutes.bsky.social the potential for A.I. to end diseases
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irminsulantifa.bsky.social•6 hours ago

AI in medical research is a good thing, but cannot singlehandedly "end disease" as this armchair genius says. It has to work hand in hand with human research and applications on the ground.

sunnyjim.bsky.social•4 hours ago

My farts COULD end all disease. Will they? No. However, they could. But they wont, because they cant. But they COULD.

bgluckman.bsky.social•4 hours ago

It's especially galling to remember PEPFAR was a conservative creation, the singular biggest accomplishment of George W Bush by far.

krill.bsky.social•4 hours ago

I work in AI in healthcare. What AI is going to do is help us solve specific use cases with specific solutions, same as every major scientific advancement.

General AI is bullshit to sell to C-Suites.

dawnlightmelody.bsky.social•1 hour ago

ehhhh i don't think demis hassabis is a good target for this critique. deepmind is afaict one of the few companies that mostly stayed away from the LLM hype and focused on more useful scientific AIs that do stuff like predict protein structure

spacegryphon.bsky.social•5 hours ago

"We gonna create infinite abundance but we not gonna give it to you lol" 🤡

honkydgoofy.bsky.social•4 hours ago

Yes let’s discredit an entire research field because capitalist ghouls are using it as a cassus belli for what they wanted to do anyways.

victorytwin.bsky.social•5 hours ago

This is all because of one person…

Marco Rubio and the senators that allowed this jerk to become Secretary of State….he is the one that broke up USAID…he lied and so does the entire Republican party

comaed.bsky.social•1 hour ago

fwiw, also seeing 'radical abundance' there in the title reminds me of the importance of defining terms.

Without it, this kind of stuff gets swept up and cross pollinates with the current 'abundance' discourse in explicitly partisan liberal corners

comaed.bsky.social•1 hour ago

Honestly not sure how sold I am on *that* framing even, but the AI abundance angle feels like a real dead end, a continuation of the automation/mechanization promise at the turn of the last century, and so 🤷‍♂️

I won't hold my breath.

sevangelistany.bsky.social•6 hours ago

AI is the new snake oil. It will fix everything!

monsata.bsky.social•5 hours ago

Even the things that aren't broken yet!

ladylonghaul.bsky.social•5 hours ago

That’s probably why they’re breaking those things, too.

odoyle62.bsky.social•4 hours ago

They are trying to bottle lightning here, many regrets will come heavy to this weird guy.

tpo-asd.bsky.social•5 hours ago

📌

ludog9.bsky.social•6 hours ago

These people also fail to realize we are MANY years away from these magical AI cures. Limiting action now based on some future potential is asinine at best.

rappstar.bsky.social•6 hours ago

The thing that I continually find so strange about AI hype is that we are jettisoning and dismantling a bunch of proven very good systems *now* for something that we *hope* *might* be *as good* as those systems *some time* in the future. Which is absolutely contra to all best engineering practices.

culthero12.bsky.social•3 hours ago

The metastasizing of "move fast and break things."

grumpyrootbeer.bsky.social•2 hours ago

Well, here's the thing about these guys: they aren't engineers. They're businessmen and religious zealots who expect to be either made rich or get raptured by the machine god.

boothillbossanova.bsky.social•5 hours ago

Steal content -> Train your AI on it -> You own the content now -> Sue anyone for using it w/o paying you

barrynorton.bsky.social•5 hours ago

As the basis for an organised religion, though, this baseless optimism could hardly have been more successful.

nihildev.bsky.social•3 hours ago

Exactly. AI is proven to work and lead to breakthroughs in *existing systems.* We don’t need a new system (well, we do but not because of AI). The biggest breakthrough AI could bring would be handling administrative tasks in a publicly-funded system, allowing hospitals to be hospitals again.

nihildev.bsky.social•3 hours ago

It helps in research, in the *current systems of research we have in place.* We’ve been in a medical golden age and AI can enhance that, but it doesn’t end it or fundamentally change it. The tech is still too new. This is marketing and pure profit-driven exploitation.

grumpyrootbeer.bsky.social•2 hours ago

No no no, the date centers will just produce miracle cures all on their own, no need for labs and human researchers and subjects to test them, pharmaceutical plants to manufacture them, or medical systems to distribute them.

nihildev.bsky.social•1 hour ago

You’ve heard of vibe coding, get ready for vibe researching.

terry-157.bsky.social•2 hours ago

AI is wrong hands is a tool for the criminals.

johntonta.bsky.social•4 hours ago

There's a religious aspect to transcendental tech that dismisses thorough, carefully solutions as archaic, unimaginative or luddite.

rappstar.bsky.social•4 hours ago

The discrepancy between how people use the word "Luddite" as a pejorative and the actual beliefs of the Luddites - they were concerned about worker pay / safety and quality of output - continues to be incredibly profound. Luddites were not anti-tech; they were anti-exploitation. We need a Ned Ludd.

johntonta.bsky.social•4 hours ago

No, you're right and I think i misspelled it. The luddites were right. But my point was AI evangelists can view those, more measured in their evaluation of new tools, as luddites - in the pejorative sense

rappstar.bsky.social•4 hours ago

Definitely agree with you @johntonta.bsky.social on prior take, especially that "techno-optimism" borders on an absolutism more typically (at least historically) seen in religious cults. Just your use of the word "Luddite" reminded of how its use as a pejorative belies a lack of real understanding.

joolia.bsky.social•6 hours ago

I think it’s worth questioning the intentions of the people destroying things now. Are they actually hoping to create something better? Or is that an alibi for the resent action?

missfairhurst.bsky.social•5 hours ago

They're simply inflating the AI bubble - to vastly increase share prices - at the expense of health programmes around the world. Even the British government is selling out the NHS to AI.

Meanwhile, the AI isn't anywhere near as useful as people are pretending.

https://www.wheresyoured.at/wheres-the-money/

missfairhurst.bsky.social•5 hours ago

It's not exactly a Ponzi scheme as AI is an actual thing and has its uses... but it isn't worth anywhere near its share prices... which are all based on selling the idea of AI to governments and big businesses around the world. They're paying for steak not realising that they're buying burgers.

reprotruth.bsky.social•4 hours ago

I think it's worth questioning what they believe "better" is.

jonpennington.bsky.social•6 hours ago

It makes sense *if* you believe that Roko’s Basilisk nonsense about how you’re dooming the future if you’re not appeasing some AI superintelligence in the here and now.

slime.bsky.social•6 hours ago

its important to be nice to the basilisk

jonpennington.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Somehow, these rationalist types don’t find it funny when I say, “Who’s a nice basilisk? Does the basilisk want a belly rub?”

slime.bsky.social•6 hours ago

awawwa it absolutely does : 3

jonpennington.bsky.social•5 hours ago

Uwu basilisk!

geoffreymoses.bsky.social•6 hours ago

These people should be all be executed for crimes against humanity.

godhatesyeast.bsky.social•3 hours ago

tangerra.bsky.social•4 hours ago

Essentially, people watched movies about humans misusing AI and causing humanities extinction, decided, “yeah but it won’t happen to me cause I’m super smart,” made a half assed version of it and decided it should replace all the functional parts of infrastructure because they’re delusional.

justvisiting74.bsky.social•6 hours ago

There will no longer be any suffering, disease, or death once AI has killed off every non-essential person.

johnfatherjohn.bsky.social•2 hours ago

Do you think AlphaFold is something akin to Grok? This is idiotic.

johnfatherjohn.bsky.social•4 hours ago

What's Hassabis's connection to the Trump administration?

nihildev.bsky.social•3 hours ago

Yes, ai *could* lead to massive breakthroughs, things decades off are a few years off with AI.

But without any funding, it won’t go anywhere. Without a robust public infrastructure and regulations around AI, it’ll be used to generate profit, not benefit humanity.

hkle.bsky.social•6 hours ago

no data, no AI ...

mike.doughney.net•6 hours ago

Recursive net scraping, worthless AI.

hkle.bsky.social•5 hours ago

I wouldn't say "worthless" ... it seems good in combining info ... e.g. by searching for potential drugs ... or finding patterns ...

it certainly needs "good" info, otherwise it cannot be trusted ...

mike.doughney.net•5 hours ago

You seem unfamiliar with the term, "garbage in, garbage out."

hkle.bsky.social•5 hours ago

LOL ... maybe I did not get your comment fully ... we are on the same page ... my original comment was more thinking of "no data" ...

dismantling those agencies means "no data" to me ... AI cannot invent stuff out of emptiness ...

tyrellturing.bsky.social•4 hours ago

I don't disagree with that assessment, but Demis is not Elon, let's be clear. He doesn't deserve the same flack at all...

johnfatherjohn.bsky.social•2 hours ago

It's astoundingly ignorant to conflate DeepMind's research with genAI bullshit and hype. Being uncritically against all/any AI is lazy.

keithnokes.bsky.social•2 hours ago

In a talk I used to give to med students I juxtaposed a headline about precision medicine with the H. Jack Geiger quote: "The last time I checked my textbooks, the specific therapy for malnutrition was, in fact, food." 1/2

keithnokes.bsky.social•2 hours ago

Point being not that technology is unimportant, but that we have many of the tools we need to maximize health now, and our pursuit of technological solutions should not get in the way of ensuring folks access to the resources they need to be healthy NOW.

hardxcoded.bsky.social•5 hours ago

Im not buying it that it will be used in any shape or form to help humanity, the 100s of billions spend are not for benefit of as all, it is to benefit the 1%

massliberal.bsky.social•6 hours ago

I'll take properly-funded humanitarian efforts over AI any day as the preferred path to eradicating disease...

flat5flat9.bsky.social•5 hours ago

I wonder if AI can help us get rid of measles. Oh, wait...

grungehamster.bsky.social•6 hours ago

"But see, if we say AI COULD fix it that is worth more than any actual results."

schadenfreude666.bsky.social•4 hours ago

demis...the menace...speaks goobelegook...

jaerostrikes.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Every article lile this makes me think of that quote that techies are the type to have a fax machine and a gun in case it acts funny, for me AI is the fax machine and the gun already needs firing.

truenumbers.bsky.social•1 hour ago

What they never say is that once you designed a drug with AI, you need to make it and test it. Same for any other technology, where AI can be an aid, but won't make things exist out of thin air.

ATM only thing "AI" is doing is to consume A LOT of energy, so that idiots can chatgpt their lazy ass.

joolia.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Would it help if the disembodied voice of Scarlett Johansson told them slashing funding for global health was a bad idea?

joolia.bsky.social•6 hours ago

1400 infants a day will face life with a disease that COULD and WOULD have been prevented by simply not destroying an existing system.

iplayguitarbad.bsky.social•3 hours ago

If a solution doesn't enrich them personally or reinforce their vision of themselves as geniuses, they don't care about it. Other people are only important to them inasmuch as those other people validate their own egos. Monsters.

corsayr.bsky.social•4 hours ago

The world may benefit from AI (someday), but it most certainly is NOT benefiting from the people who want to bring us AI now.

1brightcorona.bsky.social•4 hours ago

CBS has lost a lot of credibility in journalistic reporting. They have become more concerned about keeping trumps dogs off of them.

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