If you vote for a politician, you bear some responsibility if they get elected.
If you choose not to do the only thing that could stop them, you bear less but still some responsibility if they get elected.
You can tell yourself it’s 100% on other people, but that’s not how responsibility works.
If you choose not to do the only thing that could stop them, you bear less but still some responsibility if they get elected.
You can tell yourself it’s 100% on other people, but that’s not how responsibility works.
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I think @josie.zone referred to a president as a public utility, which makes a vote more palatable but maybe less urgent without further explanation.
I'd rather get someone who represents a few things I want and help them beat someone who is the antithesis of what I want, than vote for someone who represents everything I want but will never be in power to make any of it happen.
You have over 300 likes on the op. Something to consider, is all.
you're aware that your posts are useless and not helping anyone, and at best are actively harming your own cause?
this is wrong, and very sad.
Like, you need to quantify this and do math to show this is an argument for either candidate
Also, cui bono from thinking you’re limited in affecting your politics by voting?
Otherwise yes.
Although, not voting almost always gets politicians to go "who cares about them, I'll focus on voters" rather than "I will transform to appeal to nonvoters"
If you abstain from voting, you have chosen to allow the majority to decide for you.
Either way you have made a choice, and bear the responsibility of that choice.
https://bsky.app/profile/bookshopleslie.bsky.social/post/3kdhahlfcit2h
how about you do some real work and do some phone banking instead of wasting time with whatever this dumb bullshit is supposed to be
The people voted the alleged left-er president, he still gleefully does a genocide.
We’re looking at two trolleys on fire and full of explosives and we’re supposed to park one in our garage. I don’t care that one has a bit more explosives than the other.
Your problem posits death(s) as inevitable, which is why it’s not a reasonable as a metaphor for politics. We don’t have to kill people.
It's amazing how controversial "adults bear responsibility for their own choices, and the foreseeable consequences" is. At least online.
I think part of it is that some people would prefer otherwise but their conscience knows it's right.
Like, if you think you did the right thing, what is there to feel guilty about.
Yes, the electorate is responsible. That includes *you* whether you choose to admit that to yourself or not and it's true no matter what you do.
And four years later, those accounts- the ones that didn't silently vanish after the election- were all "How could this happen to Roe vs Wade? Don't look at me."
The theory that if you don't like the Dem nominee, you don't vote or vote 3rd party, so then the Republican wins, and the Democrats learn they need to appeal more to you personally, so they shift sharply left in time for the next election was recently tested. Did not work out as theorized.
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746
If you choose to at least stop talking, then you bear less.
Both choices suck. I can live with myself for inaction leading to Trump, but not with actively supporting a genocide.
Biden still has time to change my mind through his action, though - but it’s gonna have to be a big one, like sending in troops to defend Palestinians.
Lets say there are only two choices of votes that could affect the outcome. I am concerned about empowering politician A, so I vote for politician B. B wins, and does something bad. Under your first point I bear some responsibility, right?
Next question: how difficult can voting be before I am no longer responsible? If I'll be fired for taking the time off, am I responsible?
why is it that the most ardent proponents of "democracy" consistently feel the need to assert the most limited possible framework for democracy
Would I prefer the US is less influential? Definitely
But that's not the world we live in
In short, I agree with you
Do you think your finger wagging and calling out 'shame' to me matters?
Unless by “the only thing that could stop them” you mean “The Czolgosz Option”? Let us know.
Not sure you're saying what you want to say when you could be organizing an uprising.