the idea of declassifying UFO files does not interest me at all. UFO stuff regularly gets declassified and it's always "sometimes there's shit in the sky that we don't know what it is. except for when we do know what it is cuz we put it there; for war." great. boring. waste of time - ThreadSky | a Reddit-style client for Bluesky

jtp.bsky.social • 6 days ago

the idea of declassifying UFO files does not interest me at all. UFO stuff regularly gets declassified and it's always "sometimes there's shit in the sky that we don't know what it is. except for when we do know what it is cuz we put it there; for war." great. boring. waste of time

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tinysodacans.bsky.social•6 days ago

The government is honestly probably glad that a lot of people think it’s aliens and shit.

jtp.bsky.social•6 days ago

they have deliberately encouraged ufo cranks to cover up classified military hardware tests!!

mistermercury.bsky.social•6 days ago

Boring, sloppy, lazy.

presidentgoku.bsky.social•6 days ago

i'm equally excited for the JFK files to be devoid of anything interesting

jtp.bsky.social•6 days ago

yeag

soilent.bsky.social•6 days ago

It was a bigger Chinese balloon this time

epee.cc•6 days ago

"We think that one was a vulture with its head stuck in a soup can, but it could've been a dog food can."

jasonemry.bsky.social•6 days ago

there aren’t going to be cool aliens. why and how in taf would a national government have sole control over anything that can travel across space. we’d all be pets already if anything like that made it this far.

purplemids.bsky.social•6 days ago

I'm a guy who is interested in the topic even if it's just nothing more than modern fairy lore, a part of me would like it to be true, but show me the bodies or fuck off.

jtp.bsky.social•6 days ago

i also want it to be true cuz thats way more fun. its just not true tho

epee.cc•6 days ago

Yeah the only thing that's ever definitive is when it's like "oh yeah that was an experimental Ultimate Doomsday aircraft we were testing that was classified at the time. We just gave Israel 17,000,000 of them for 'Get Out The Vote campaigns' in Gaza."

tbwagp.bsky.social•6 days ago

remember when the govt released those UFO videos the NYT posted, and skeptics said “this GOFAST one is a balloon”, and every believer said “no it isn’t!!!” and then years later the govt went “yeah no we figured this one out it’s a balloon”

jtp.bsky.social•6 days ago

"but what if it was a pill shaped alien craft that was psychicly linked to a random military grunt who was nearby at the time?"

stuartp.bsky.social•6 days ago

more like the ZZZ Files

darksidestraxus.bsky.social•6 days ago

I miss the early internet UFO scene.

Back then you had folks who genuinely believed in aliens, nowadays it's all just Nazis whining about women and marginalized groups.

marshallg0402.bsky.social•6 days ago

It’s never the “gotcha” moment everything thinks it will be. If aliens are here they wouldn’t work with the government anyway, too dumb

daisythesadboi.bsky.social•6 days ago

100% of the time is clouds/weather balloons except for the times when it's experimental government aircraft

jtp.bsky.social•6 days ago

in this instance it was both experimental technology and a weather balloon. the weather balloon is how they got the mic in the air https://bsky.app/profile/jtp.bsky.social/post/3lkpprs2nls2e

topper.falkon.org.uk•6 days ago

I give it a 90% chance that the first person to spot a genuine extraterrestrial UFO will be a very serious amateur asteroid watcher who will get very excited for the 10 minutes before we all get vaporised

phranq.bsky.social•6 days ago

Extraterrestrial conspiracy theories get less interesting once you figure out these guys think Grey's are angels and/or demons.

So the conspiracy just boils down to "the government is hiding scientific proof of God"

prototyperspective.bsky.social•6 days ago

Some guys think that, not many or most of those who think (or know) UFOs are real. If you can't distinguish and just generalize like that, you're just demonstrating your ignorance and unscientific attitude.

drunkenbard.bsky.social•6 days ago

UFO guys: OMG they released more UFO files!!!

The files: There was an object. It was flying and we couldn't identify it. The only thing we know for sure... Is that we don't know what it was.

joeschmoop.bsky.social•6 days ago

“We put it there for war” - god explaining earth and humans

dragonfish.bsky.social•6 days ago

As an aside, I love how hypothetically the Evangelion plug goo potentially would work IRL to prevent G lock by just...squishing the body a lot.

Like it's literally just "G Lock? Heh, sounds like a skill issue." *slides into tube of breathable lemon Jello*

listentocrass.lesbian.cat•6 days ago

So you saw something that looked like a plate in the sky, big whoop. Can the little green trans men make electricity free with their Martian batteries and dump their alien Estrogen in the sea?

prototyperspective.bsky.social•6 days ago

That's just false. You probably didn't take any time to dig through files in https://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/
Nevertheless, it would be better if (more) scientists themselves gathered data and investigated rather than hope for gov research to be declassified...like The Galileo Project is doing

jtp.bsky.social•6 days ago

do you have an example of a declassified document that does not fit the description i gave?

prototyperspective.bsky.social•6 days ago

Also e.g. https://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/cattle-mutilations/

jtp.bsky.social•6 days ago

if there's anything interesting here you're gonna have to spell it out for me cuz it seems like a whole lotta nothing

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prototyperspective.bsky.social•6 days ago

Lots of data on cattle mutilations. What else do you expect. This is data that could be used in and for research.

jtp.bsky.social•6 days ago

did you actually look at the documents? it's a nothingburger

prototyperspective.bsky.social•6 days ago

https://www.livescience.com/ufo-report-human-biological-injuries
https://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20121026065214/http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdonlyres/7D2B11E0-EA9F-45EA-8883-A3C00546E752/0/uap_exec_summary_dec00.pdf
https://www.livescience.com/cia-declassified-ufo-archives.html
Lots of documents about individual cases that I don't have at hand right now

jtp.bsky.social•6 days ago

this document seems to back up my original claim

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prototyperspective.bsky.social•6 days ago

Still useful stuff in it. Often documents include valuable data and then have some conclusion that doesn't follow at all from the data. Maybe I shouldn't have included it – better to check the other 2 as well as dig through the BV. Again, it's not a good attitude to hope gov declassifies stuff.

silvered.bsky.social•6 days ago

If a UFO ever becomes so important I should care, it won't matter if I'm paying attention, if the aliens aren't above me directly why would I care.

esthiru.bsky.social•6 days ago

That's what the GOVERNMENT wants you to believe. They actually ARE aliens who just so happen to mostly preffer hanging around the air bases of the most militarized country in the world.

jtp.bsky.social•6 days ago

the government loves alien theories cuz it makes people less likely to come to the correct conclusion when they witness classified aircraft tests

esthiru.bsky.social•6 days ago

My boy @miniminuteman.bsky.social put it best.

nikuneko-b.bsky.social•6 days ago

Thank you for showing me he has a blusky

cheesecakechik.bsky.social•6 days ago

thank you. Every time UFO shit is declassified it’s literally just either our own espionage and spy technology or another nation’s espionage and spy technology.

Warthunder forums leak stronger secrets about weaponry than this lmao

prototyperspective.bsky.social•6 days ago

This is just a false statement by a person with no clue who has not looked into it.

wytch.bsky.social•6 days ago

Even then the Warthunder stuff is usually public documents that happen to be classified because governments are dumb like that.

tbwagp.bsky.social•6 days ago

yes, this: it’s overwhelmingly public documents that have silly restrictions on them because the law was written before the internet existed. the “war thunder leaks!!!!!!!” thing is so fucking annoying

cheesecakechik.bsky.social•6 days ago

True, but also it warms my heart every time a warthunder nerd gets so into arguing on the forums that they decide to share classified information to prove that they’re actually right

diahane.bsky.social•6 days ago

We live in the most boring of realities

garethwatkins.bsky.social•6 days ago

And then you find out that the guy from Blink 182 is heavily involved.

prototyperspective.bsky.social•6 days ago

A person from a music band is interested in this subject and is as active as he can be. Flip the tables and quit this subject since this means everything must be wrong.

funkpower.bsky.social•6 days ago

Love a good alien story, but the UFO ones are always boring as shit. I need little guys getting out and causing havoc before I start to become interested.

They're all still fake, but at least it's better than "I saw a plane i didn't recognize."

jtp.bsky.social•6 days ago

the famous roswell crash has been delcassified for decades and i feel most UFO heads i encounter don't even know that. it was called project mogul. it was a high atmosphere microphone for spying on soviet nuclear tests. it was cancelled cuz we found out monitoring seismic data works better

m154n7hr0p3.bsky.social•5 days ago

Roswell was a craft retrieval and that’s the cover story. But I guess you make a good point we never really get disclosure just more disinfo

jtp.bsky.social•5 days ago

yeah the craft they retrieved was a microphone attached to a balloon for spying on the soviets

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jtp.bsky.social•5 days ago

cover stories don't take 50 years to come up with

enigmasystem03.bsky.social•6 days ago

Clearly project mogul was just a cover up for the alien spaceship that crashed there. /s

stochasticooze.bsky.social•6 days ago

That's just what they WANT you to think /s

powerfulhag.bsky.social•6 days ago

i love this so much because roswell was both a coverup (because mogul was nuclear related so it was considered secret) and a just a weather balloon (they had the micro attached to a weather balloon to get it so high) so it was the Schrodinger's catbox of conspiracy theories

romabysen.bsky.social•6 days ago

That's what they want you to think

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jtp.bsky.social•6 days ago

so why take interest in more declassified files

briarwillow.bsky.social•6 days ago

And not only that, but then the government was responsible for a lot of the alien rumors spreading as well, to cover up the military technology.

jtp.bsky.social•6 days ago

yup!!

jtp.bsky.social•6 days ago

in the 1980s people would sometimes see aircraft that moved in strange ways that airplanes would not be able to. it was drones. the military was inventing drones.

scrambojambo.bsky.social•5 days ago

ufo sightings were cooler when cameras were all shit. grainy footage was the backbone of good conspiracism

snoutmaster.bsky.social•6 days ago

I thought they was invented (outside of pilotless shootdown planes for pilot training and some early attempt at drone bombs in the 20s-30s) in the 1970s with the CCTV Mastiff, used by Israel extensively I'm around that time

xdresstera.bsky.social•6 days ago

a lot of modern tech started as military tech

antiquequaalude.bsky.social•6 days ago

Also, military officers at a nuke site in Montana saw UFO shut down 10 of our nukes all at once..I think they're trying to prevent us from killing ourselves and the planet
https://youtu.be/6c5aSXIS9-Y

meowdelyn.bsky.social•6 days ago

Which is wild cause any group in possession of something with the energy densities needed for interstellar space travel and a deceptive mindset to remain hidden would scare me more than any nuke.

meowdelyn.bsky.social•6 days ago

Hi, yes our vehicles drive system can liquefy your planets crust at 20% output and we've decided we need subterfuge to accomplish our goals for some unfathomable reason.

antiquequaalude.bsky.social•6 days ago

I think we should put orangutans in homes in the suburbs while we watch Indonesians chop down their rainforests. It'd be ridiculously easy and it would save them.

antiquequaalude.bsky.social•6 days ago

On the other hand, like...if those people who could Thanos snap you out of existence are really trying to tell you you're going to murder the planet and are shutting off our nukes then maybe they have a point

meowdelyn.bsky.social•6 days ago

Yeah, but the point becomes a little diluted if you try to tell me that while in my house holding several basketballs of anti matter.

jtp.bsky.social•6 days ago

if they can do that then they are hypocrites for hoarding snap technology while lecturing us about nukes.

fantango.bsky.social•6 days ago

They should step the fuck up then

jtp.bsky.social•6 days ago

then they suck at it cuz we have way more than 10 of those

antiquequaalude.bsky.social•6 days ago

Hey I never claimed they were efficient

antiquequaalude.bsky.social•6 days ago

You should look into the Ariel School landing in Zimbabwe...happened in '94 or '95. ~60 kids all saw it

https://youtube.com/shorts/DGZPGuzrgWA

jtp.bsky.social•6 days ago

looking into this and it seems like a nothingburger to me

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antiquequaalude.bsky.social•6 days ago

Here's a Canadian girl who was there now talking as an adult about it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2Y8vu4OPLw

jtp.bsky.social•6 days ago

i think this context is also important. this rocket sighting two days before the incident would mean that UFOs were a very popular topic at the time and fresh in everyone's minds.

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jimisroomufotv.bsky.social•6 days ago

Reports of objects moving in strange ways-U turns, turning at right angles, sudden accelerations, pulsating, glowing, etc has been recorded as far back as the 20s. They are not all drones by a long shot.

johnnythreshold.bsky.social•6 days ago

I feel like the old school tinfoil types forget that the military actively courted alien conspiracy because it deflected attention from their normal boring evil war stuff.

jtp.bsky.social•6 days ago

yeah fr!!

akifirebird.bsky.social•6 days ago

What about in the 2030's when that little green man gave me time control powers?

jtp.bsky.social•6 days ago

thats just the military again, john titor

akifirebird.bsky.social•6 days ago

I got the stiens;gate 😤

cypherial.bsky.social•6 days ago

Did someone say "tuturu"

akifirebird.bsky.social•6 days ago

Haha TITor

nikuneko-b.bsky.social•6 days ago

The issue with ufo heads and conspiracists is that they will never accept evidence from anyone but sources they already pre-select

jeanmachine.dev•6 days ago

genuinely didnt know this but honestly checks out

akifirebird.bsky.social•6 days ago

Jenny knows all this because she's an alien herself and would know if the government found her 👽

therealwillrogers.bsky.social•6 days ago

The government UFO disclosure from a few years ago and the New Jersey drone fiasco from last year have basically convinced me that we live in an uninteresting universe. It's time to just buck up and accept that fact. The universe won't be interesting for you; you have to be interesting on your own

endblock.bsky.social•6 days ago

"The universe won't be interesting for you; you have to be interesting on your own" goes hard

epee.cc•6 days ago

I think the bigger lesson to take is that given the sheer effort and resource demand involved in interstellar travel, and the times, distances and rarity involved there is no way in hell that an extraterrestrial civilization would make it all the way to Earth's atmosphere undetected by even amateurs

epee.cc•6 days ago

There is *probably* life out there somewhere, and it's reasonably possible some of it is intelligent. But crossing the distance between stars is a huge undertaking and no one nearby is doing it frequently enough to drop in unannounced.

samantha42.bsky.social•6 days ago

I mean, speak for yourself, the universe is fascinating, just not in this pne specific niche area. I don't need LGMs for astronomy to be awe inspiring.

therealwillrogers.bsky.social•6 days ago

Like, yeah, there might be some weird shit in the sky, but you should learn to paint or write music

zuthal.bsky.social•6 days ago

Anythings a UFO if you are bad enough at identifying flying objects, see: people who thought landing planes were UFOs a few months ago

prototyperspective.bsky.social•6 days ago

A few random people thought a landing plane is an UFO.
Thus all UFOs have just mundane explanations like being misidentified planes.
Such logic

infosecnick.bsky.social•6 days ago

Not what was said at all
Such reading comprehension

prototyperspective.bsky.social•6 days ago

Such ability to read a comment in context and being sincere in what it's saying.

hardklaw.bsky.social•6 days ago

Yeah, but what did Nixon show Jackie Gleason???

xehtfodrol.bsky.social•6 days ago

Way too many people hold the conflicting ideas of "The government is boring and incompetent" and "the government is covering up the coolest shit ever"

Like, sorry, but most classified stuff isn't cool AF. It's probably just interesting to specific disciplines.

jtp.bsky.social•6 days ago

i mean they probably got some cool planes and drones and maybe a jetpack somewhere. but otherwise yea i dont think theyre hiding anything cool

xehtfodrol.bsky.social•6 days ago

I refuse to believe jetpacks are hidden from us, it's just too cool to not have been leaked.

A neat plane or drone design is one thing...

jtp.bsky.social•6 days ago

i mean there's videos out there of private contractors testing prototypes and they seem to work, but aren't very practical for any military purpose as far as i can tell. maybe there are secret ones that are better. or maybe secret ones that failed and suck. i dunno

pomeraniangod.bsky.social•6 days ago

When a UFO is identified, it becomes an FO, and once it falls to the ground and is identified, it becomes an O.

jtp.bsky.social•6 days ago

yeah and its usually like, an airplane

kylora2112.bsky.social•6 days ago

It's like, sure everything is a UFO to you if you don't know anything.

jtp.bsky.social•6 days ago

"the military has confirmed existence of UFOs" is just a confirmation that the military doesnt know what every single thing in the sky is. great awesome welcome to the club