We are supposed to shake hands at funerals. Because we have to respect the office, even if we have differences with the man. Mother Pence said to hell with that. And her decision was perfectly normal in our abnormal world. open.substack.com/pub/charlies... - ThreadSky

sykescharlie.bsky.social • 40 days ago

We are supposed to shake hands at funerals. Because we have to respect the office, even if we have differences with the man.

Mother Pence said to hell with that. And her decision was perfectly normal in our abnormal world.

https://open.substack.com/pub/charliesykes/p/some-brief-thoughts-on-civility-in?r=2k4r8&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true

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gluonspring.bsky.social•40 days ago

Calling for more oil drilling rather than more solar farms is "a difference". Even calling me a liar on TV is "a difference". Trying to subvert the republic is something else. It is not possible to respect the office. The office is in a state of disrespect from which gestures can not save it.

littleredyarn.bsky.social•40 days ago

Your could not pay me enough to shake that hand.

kjsthings.bsky.social•39 days ago

No telling where that hand has been. 🤮

littleredyarn.bsky.social•39 days ago

I may have the opportunity to do some environmental lobbying on The Hill this spring for a day. Is one pint of hand sanitizer too little? Is a gallon too much?

kjsthings.bsky.social•39 days ago

Wash your hands in the Potomac after. Surely it’s cleaner.

littleredyarn.bsky.social•39 days ago

Perhaps I should go outside of the hotel, turn around three times and spit and hope I'm not incurring the wrath of the whatever high on top of the thing?

You know, I just might do that. I'll send pictures.

kjsthings.bsky.social•39 days ago

Following so I see the video when you post it! 😂

ourbestefforts.bsky.social•39 days ago

I'm with Mother Pence.

free2b56.bsky.social•40 days ago

Trump shouldn't get one shred more respect than he is willing to give. I don't care if it's a funeral, a church or a golf course. Rapist don't get to demand respect.

ginsengity.bsky.social•39 days ago

I wouldn't shake the hand of a person whose incompetence & hubris resulted in 100s of 1000s of Americans dead during the pandemic either.
Having absolutely no respect for the man trumps any respect I have for the office. (no pun intended.)

tenoannie.bsky.social•40 days ago

Not a mother fan, but she rocked that day out 😊

libbydismuke.bsky.social•40 days ago

I agree! I had the honor to shake her hand at Fort Campbell.

sethp-grumpygoat.bsky.social•40 days ago

Her decision was normal in this trump age, but also fully warranted: trump was the one who targeted Pence on j6 and encouraged his supporters who were calling for hanging her husband. I think rather poorly of both of them, but not for this.

nanabev14.bsky.social•40 days ago

I can see that elected officials would have that expectation. A private citizen can do whatever the heck she wants.

bluejwoo.bsky.social•39 days ago

I’m definitely on Team Mother - at least in this instance.

gippersgravespin.bsky.social•39 days ago

Now you see why he needs her

pauldu.bsky.social•40 days ago

Shaking hands with the road raging driver who almost ran over your spouse - trying to apply a relatable scenario for comparison

demodisping.bsky.social•40 days ago

You don't shake hands with the guy who wanted your spouse dead.

deaconwife.bsky.social•40 days ago

So did Trump. He did not stand when the others entered nor offer his hand. Neither did his wife. Trump showed no respect or even good manners.

photodog.bsky.social•40 days ago

Would anyone shake hands with Hitler at Goering" funeral?
Civility also has its limits.

gippersgravespin.bsky.social•39 days ago

No justice, no peace

prairillon.bsky.social•40 days ago

Jay*us, she didn't spit on him, she just cut him dead, to use the time-honored vernacular, time-honored because it has been customer FOREVER in cases of egregious social disagreements such as one might have with the man that tried to kill your husband.

butlersride.bsky.social•39 days ago

He tried to kill her husband! He deserved much worse than a cold shoulder.

lgun1.bsky.social•40 days ago

If someone intended to let your spouse get hanged by a mob, would you shake their hand? Tell us the truth now!

deb2468.bsky.social•40 days ago

Respect needs to flow both ways.

jmattdavis.bsky.social•39 days ago

Her husband had no obligation to shake the hand of the man who agreed with the calls to hang him.

liberalhombre.bsky.social•39 days ago

Next Monday at noon, Chief Justice Roberts will pass sentence on 250+ Million Americans.

There will be no civility after that day

#Resist The Felon
#Boycott The Billionaires

#Boycotts Work!
Ask Bud Light about the details

hollygolightly14.bsky.social•39 days ago

I don't blame her. The man tried to get other people to hang her husband. Why on earth would she even look at his face, much less touch him?

pharrellg.bsky.social•39 days ago

The Former VP is not getting the credit he deserves in standing his ground by doing what was right during the 1/6 Insurrection. He’s a man of Moral Character who showed loyalty to the U.S. Constitution. “Outstanding!”

gbpckrfanalways.bsky.social•39 days ago

Trump threatened the life of not only her & husband, but her daughter was there on Jan 6 too and was in danger of being hurt or killed.

stacys01.bsky.social•40 days ago

In a time of ass kissing politicians be a Mother Pence. 👏👏💙

katestaysuplate.bsky.social•40 days ago

Maybe if he apologized for saying that her husband should be murdered for not overturning the election, she'd be more amenable. And he's not the POTUS yet. Sorry, Charlie-you're off base on this one.

dabbler333.bsky.social•40 days ago

Shaking Trump's hand would just make him feel validated. Hard no.

teufelhunden0352.bsky.social•40 days ago

Norms are no longer the norm in this period of our society.

kevinmcnamee.bsky.social•39 days ago

In a normal world, Karen Pence’s reaction was perfectly acceptable. Trump tried to have her husband murdered.

debscheetzam.bsky.social•40 days ago

Still can’t get over Frumps creepy stares at Kamala.

ruviewer.bsky.social•40 days ago

He used to look at Hillary like this

debscheetzam.bsky.social•40 days ago

Yep

g-rod555.bsky.social•35 days ago

President Trump #45 is about to be bumped from top billing as the worst US President by Trump #47

Worst:
1. Donald Trump #47
2. Donald Trump #45
3. Andrew Johnson #17
4. James Buchanan #15
5. Waren G Harding #29

mikeintucson123.bsky.social•40 days ago

Agreed. We cannot normalize him at all, on any level.

kennyhald.bsky.social•40 days ago

Affording obedience to protocol to a person who openly flaunts it is foolish.

nruss25.bsky.social•40 days ago

She and her family were there that day. I will never judge her for failing to shake the hand of a criminal who we failed to hold accountable

coachbill.bsky.social•40 days ago

Love anyone that has the guts to ignore the TREASONIST!

realimgroot.bsky.social•40 days ago

Is there anything goin on *today* that we might want to hear your thoughts on?

jheslet.bsky.social•40 days ago

She had a never Trump moment, yes ?

egregious.bsky.social•40 days ago

This may be changing, but when I grew up women didn't have to shake hands

cacoco.bsky.social•39 days ago

Three cheers for her!

grouchysmurf.bsky.social•40 days ago

Good on Karen Pence. I'm so sick of double standards. So sick of Dems worrying about precedents and civility. When the GOP acts like the lying hypocritical pigs that they are, not a peep is made. But if the Dems do it, all hell breaks loose. What is wrong with this country??

sethp-grumpygoat.bsky.social•40 days ago

Are we going to blame the dems for wanting a return to civility, now?

grouchysmurf.bsky.social•40 days ago

I'm not "blaming" the dems for anything. I'm blaming the media. And I have no problem with a "return" to civility. But not while Trump is in office and civility flies out the window. Civility begets civility. "When they go low, we go high" has gotten us nowhere.

boomerrube.bsky.social•40 days ago

Emily Post doesn't have a chapter on Premeditated Attempts to Have Your Spouse Murdered. I'll allow it.

mcsweeney.bsky.social•40 days ago

She had every right not to.

nbrockway.bsky.social•39 days ago

Or if the guy you’re supposed to treat normally tried to have your husband killed, and you’re not a public or party official obligated to respect this person although he will soon be president.

stevefermier.bsky.social•40 days ago

Shouldn't you also be willing to shake hands at a swearing-in?

4legsrgood.bsky.social•40 days ago

I don’t treat with monsters. Ever.

Not a fan of Karen Pence, but mad respect to her for snubbing orange felon. She was dead right.

theblueline.bsky.social•40 days ago

I believe that respecting the Office is shunning the man who has spit on it and is intent on destroying all it stands for. We have had enough hypocrisy. Good for Mrs. Pence.