Not only that, (& pls correct me if I’m wrong) foreign students pay full tuition & can’t qualify for any type of financial aid. This functions as an unacknowledged subsidy for American students who do qualify.
Foreign students are MASSIVE business for universities. They pay either double or triple tuition, and don't blink at the cost. They stay for 4 years and then go home. They stay in overpriced housing. They spend spend spend.
Let's get them coming more to Canada and Europe and Australia and NZ!
So the Trump administration has caused US universities (colleges) to suffer, subsequently also hurting the economy because of a lack of overseas students?
The same universities are also likely to see a drop in US students once the full effect of the elimination of the DoE and NIH grants go into effect. It has already started with grad students in STEM fields; next undergrad tuition will skyrocket. It will be cheaper to send your kids abroad.
I'm surprised so many Americans are able to go to university tbh. The debt put on families with everything else they have to cope with like healthcare is mind boggling.
But really, an all-out boycott would be good, inc in the United States. Will reinforce that we’re a pariah, and other sporting events will not be held here.
They will set up wealthy children in private schools paid for by tax payer voucher systems. Those private school children won't be saddled with mandatory military duty, only public school children.
The only plausible conclusion one can draw is that this admin, presumably at the behest of someone outside other U.S., is deliberately destroying this country from within. It is sick. It is wrong. It should not be happening. But Republicans.
It’s just so hard to talk to or converse with the MAGAts. It’s damn near impossible to get your point across when their head is so far up their own asses.
But most of them are not of European descent, so Trump won't have none of it. They may also have opinions, which they're not allowed to have unless it's blind worship of the MAGA cult.
But unfortunately, hundreds of thousands of U.S. citizen prospective students are turned away from state funded universities because a foreign student has a 50 point higher SAT score.
Destroying institutions oh higher education because you don’t like educated people and scientific research because you don’t understand it will cost ALL OF US.
As our democracy-defenders trip over their own messaging and hunt for a charismatic savior, it turns out the last line of defense isn’t them—it’s us! Because when institutions fail and leaders fumble, the only thing keeping democracy alive is the sheer stubbornness of those who refuse let it die!
one of the great benefits of having people from all over the world come to the United States to study, was their exposure to American democracy and America's Free Press, not anymore, FUCK Donald J. Trump
This should not take away from the fact that universities have allowed donation bribes from The ME to allow lots of student visas and professors at many universities to spread hate and lies about Israel and Jews and tolerate threats, and harassment to the Jews everywhere. We need accountability!
Why does the West view Arabs as wild animals, and when tens of thousands are killed it is something normal and trivial, but if one of you is injured the world turns upside down. Are we fourth-class creatures, and is it reasonable that the difference in religions makes us unfit to live on this earth?
Diaper Donold and his racist followers don't care... they are hell-bent on tearing our country down to the nubs. They want us to have to BEG the Robber Barons for everything, including unalienable rights and human rights we have had for 249 years!
It's over. No sane individual will want to come study in the U.S. It's over for tourism, too, I suspect. We're just some crazy backwater outpost ruled by an angry old dude. With a GOP congress that thinks it's all normal.
When the full effects of the elimination of the DoE and scale back of NIH grants goes into effect, college tuition will skyrocket and will only be affordable in the US to the wealthy. Middle class students will also be leaving for student visas elsewhere. Innovation in this country is shot.
Foreign tourism is cratering, now foreign students, military manufacturing orders will slow as existing contracts wind up. Never mind “free” trade. US will be lucky to find people to do business with…..well other than other despots and dictators.
yes, an outrageously high tuition! universities have become a business- international students are the big cash cows…
Less int’l students and gov’t cuts will decimate budgets and subsequently academic programs , research, and pay cheques…
Colleges and universities will suffer the loss of tuition and the innovations to which foreign students might contribute. Tuition revenue and innovation loss will not be offset by ppl in the US (citizens). Overall a huge loss for our country and economy. The loss will not be offset by mfg jobs
I can see where Diet Dictator went wrong here. He has little to no experience of paying taxes or starting and keeping solvent a billion dollar company.
Yep, and Musk was once one of those students. International students come to America, fuel the economy, and drive innovation. Yet, this administration is undermining our future by targeting and deporting legitimate students, making it harder for the U.S. to compete on the global stage.
Abducting ph/d student off the street doesn't encourage foreign enrollment. Too bad Canada is in a housing shortage. Lots of people looking for a stable democracy. I wish Canada could take all your your fleeing professionals.
Someone should add up all the revenue this administration is cutting off by scaring away international students, deporting immigrants and asylum seekers, reducing exports, etc. Where do they think the new money will come from?
I have a Facebook acquaintance who thinks that people who live in tourist areas losing their jobs because tourism is down is worth it for him because he'll be able to take less crowded vacations. I s*** you not.
I felt that way when I lived in a tourist town. During COVID, we had the place mostly to ourselves.
The big downside however, that depressed real estate prices just enough for parasite investors and remote workers to swoop in and buy up property.
Overall cost of living went up for the locals.
I read the same in my accommodations managers discussion group. Some were spinning the US tourism downturn to positives; "the tourists will have a better experience in less crowded parks". 😐
You talking about the parks who cut their staff and will have less service?!? 🙄
Unfortunately, you can't explain it to them either. More than half our national parks are closed and if he's thinking theme parks...well those will take an enormous hit this year. Small businesses to eat at will be gone. So on.
Less crowded vacations means bankcrupties and less choise for restaurants and other activities which will make his vacays worse. Those places aren’t there forever just for him.
Some of the people bent on the wholesale destruction of the US gov are ignorant enough they don’t understand the consequences of their actions, but there are many who do understand they are upending the economy and throwing millions into poverty and don’t care. That’s what scares me.
Trump and republicans are stealing our wealth our history our health our economy our jobs selling us out to China Russia Hungary every tin pot dictatorship they can make a deal with they are killing Americans
We can pretty much guarantee that the number of foreign students coming to study in the United States will dramatically decrease in the coming years, knowing that they can be falsely accused of crimes and thrown in a foreign prison camp if they say anything that disagrees with the fascists.
Our higher education system in the US would likely collapse without international students. especially students from places with growing economies, like China. Our money is like monopoly money for them. I live in a very international neighborhood with lots of international grad students/post docs.
The irony is that one those students was Elon Musk. Now he & his buddies & burning the bridges that got him there so others cannot do what he did, & damaging the income stream that it provided, further tipping US into recession.
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I was researching a couple of American universities for an online Doctorate, but I am now looking elsewhere. I may be a very tiny drop in an extremely large bucket, but I just do not have faith in American education anymore.
This is actually the point. The right doesn't care about a worse economy. They care about WHO gets the spoils. They believe they are entitled to the spots at universities. They want their lesser companies protected from competition. Every accusation is a confession. Also the reason DEI is attacked.
America will become a place of poverty. That is,poverty of knowledge and innovation. So far,I think,Trump and his followers have set america on a path of ,death by diseases that could have been stopped,unemployment,without benefits to help,and rage and hate in every walk of life.
There are over 700,000 foreign-born veterans who kept the watch regardless of all the rotten fascist politics douchebag is playing now. We served everyone of U.S.
There is no true America First or doing this xenophobic crap to protect our borders by this regime. trump is about retribution, getting even and destroying America because a group of entitled men with a really bad frat-boy mentality can do it.
They are thieves and grifters.
We're going to find out over the next few weeks how many foreign students are opting not to come to the US in August/September. I am seeing movement at both Columbia and The New School. I went to the latter, and in the 90s it was totally dependent on bright international students.
Universities actively recruit from abroad so those jobs will go away too. Intl students are charged higher tuition, so that means unis will also have increased budget shortfalls.
But if the goal is to wreck higher ed, then job well done bc this advances that goal.
And some of them…one in particular…quit school and lived here illegally before joining a tech firm, selling the company, got loans & grants from the federal government and turned into an oligarch who bought the last presidential election.
Immigrants are the hands that feed America. White ppl would be rather be poor and hungry, as long as “White supremacy” is preserved. #WhiteGonnaWhite #TrashGonnaTrash
JD Vance is on record years ago saying he wants to crash the US' higher education systems. This is why they are using flimsy excuses to make examples of foreign students. They want to make coming here too dangerous and unsafe specifically to reduce the revenue from foreign students.
That’s cool. And with all the tourism from around the world you’re about to lose.
Well sure would be something to see all those Equity Firms etc add that into their futures.
Both "yes"
and don't forget that
Musk himself and a ton of Muskrats and their parents were those students as well.
When we rebuild, there must be guardrails to prevent it from being means to money laundering, escaping sanctions, buying 3rd citizenship and importing fellow "upper class".
Once again Trumpty Dumpty screwed up! -Cutting tourism
-Cutting foreign students -Driving our intelligent academic people to leave
-Purging viewpoints he doesn't like or trying to discredit those viewpoints
-If Engineers & Doctors leave, we will be a 3rd world shithole country!
It makes me sick to see ICE and INS and US Marshall’s dressed like ISIS and Hamas killers complete with face masks. This is America under Trump. We are becoming a thug nation.
American police own armored vehicles and helicopters with FLIR. They shoot citizens in their homes without repercussions. Americans love it. They want more funds for police, more prisons. Harsher sentences for non-violent “criminals”. It took years to get to this place, and Americans cheered it on
Even in my little town there are young police officers with Mohawks and in vehicles that resemble military issue. If you wanna be a Navy Seal, join the Navy. Don’t strut around like fucking Rambo. You embarrass yourself and us.
The U.S. wants to sound tough by limiting student visas but China already does it. China wants to keep its talent at home. Other students will say pound sand and will go to many other schools in more welcoming countries.
Yeah, I think that’s going to end. At least for awhile. I babysit for a Nigerian lady getting a masters in nursing. She said after graduation their family is leaving USA. And her friend is going to Canada to get masters. They want to be able to visit parents and not worry about coming back
1 of the best things about college was meeting people from all over the world. This was me and Chika who was from Japan. Japanese young women are fearless!
Just another way to tank economy.They're getting rid of undocumented workers who in 2022 provided 96 billion dollars in taxes to include SS which they can't partake in.So they're getting rid of billions of dollars while simultaneously giving rich people more tax breaks. Who is making up this revenue
It’s sad and way too ironic that the DOGE guy is one of those foreign students - fleeing military service in South Africa, overstaying his student visa (therefore ILLEGAL) before starting and buying businesses.
Many foreign students have had their visas revoked in an overnight email. We've seen other students disappeared by ICE because constitutional rights don't exist anymore. Not a great environment for future students. So they'll go elsewhere where it's safe and where they'll have freedom of expression.
Agreed. But the personal stakes are much higher now with ICE arbitrarily scooping people up. A Massachusetts PHD student is in ICE detention in Louisiana with her visa revoked because of an editorial in a student newspaper that she co-authored.
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Sure, we got the nukes, they won't attack, but maybe just ignore. They can make bread in a lab somewhere.
Lindsey Graham will be proven correct some day.😢
https://www.census.gov/popclock/
Let's get them coming more to Canada and Europe and Australia and NZ!
Join the club with the UK and another far-right action (Brexit), that caused EXACTLY the same thing!
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2023/jan/27/number-eu-students-enrolling-uk-universities-down-half-since-brexit
Here in Europe we would never accept that.
NOT ONE is looking to stay in the US - at least talking to cohorts from programs I've worked with recently.
All had plans to grow first in the US 6-12 months ago
All have a plan to be outside the US - bar one
This is oligarchy
They will set up wealthy children in private schools paid for by tax payer voucher systems. Those private school children won't be saddled with mandatory military duty, only public school children.
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Stupidity is worse than evil.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/372900/number-of-chinese-students-that-study-in-the-us/
Consequences have never featured much in Trump's stupid head.
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Less int’l students and gov’t cuts will decimate budgets and subsequently academic programs , research, and pay cheques…
The big downside however, that depressed real estate prices just enough for parasite investors and remote workers to swoop in and buy up property.
Overall cost of living went up for the locals.
You talking about the parks who cut their staff and will have less service?!? 🙄
It is called a ghost town.
Destroy the economy so you can swoop in and be it's "savior"
Martial law to quell the unrest stemming from the Maga figuring out their future is f'd
I assure y'all, when they do realize the extra taxes, the tariff costs, the unemployment, no health care, no SNAP, civil war will ensue
Past tense.
Someone should let the White House know about this!
Oh shoot...
They are thieves and grifters.
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If they go away, tuition has to go up at schools.
Cutting indirect costs only adds to the problem.
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But if the goal is to wreck higher ed, then job well done bc this advances that goal.
It is a power grab.
Well sure would be something to see all those Equity Firms etc add that into their futures.
and don't forget that
Musk himself and a ton of Muskrats and their parents were those students as well.
When we rebuild, there must be guardrails to prevent it from being means to money laundering, escaping sanctions, buying 3rd citizenship and importing fellow "upper class".
Cold War was won fair and square by the West beating Soviet economy
Cold War 2.0 was won fair and square by Russia by beating American elections.
-Cutting foreign students -Driving our intelligent academic people to leave
-Purging viewpoints he doesn't like or trying to discredit those viewpoints
-If Engineers & Doctors leave, we will be a 3rd world shithole country!
No more international students
No scientific research
No Tourists
No international market for your goods
But on the upside lots of white men in charge!
Hoping other countries open up opportunities for them instead.
But yes, of course foreign students help America. I even married one of them ;)
Qatar contributed billions in so called "gifts" to plant their teachers and teach hate to our kids!
https://fsapartners.ed.gov/knowledge-center/topics/section-117-foreign-gift-and-contract-reporting/section-117-foreign-gift-and-contract-data
His son has a baseball scholarship in hand.
But, the kid may be 1 tweet away from having to run for his life
It's worse than frustrating.
Women for voting rights.
Workers for labour rights.
Anti Vietnam war.
No friction, no progress.
Most times the protesters were right. Being able to express yourself is part of becoming an adult.
So students must protest!