And too many folks think that’s great because they have villainized private Ivy League type grads and universities for generations. We ALL know that they are pillars of excellence, but many in the cult resent that.
The scientists and engineers who are leaving America today will supercharge our rivals. The next great advances in AI and Nuclear Fusion will be in China and the EU, not in America.
“The fall of one regime does not bring in a utopia. Rather, it opens the way for hard work and long efforts to build more just social, economic, and political relationships and the eradication of other forms of injustices and oppression.”
― Gene Sharp, From Dictatorship to Democracy
My understanding is this is also why camera companies like Fuji and Canon started in Japan but I could be mistaken of the timing. The talent and expertise of opticians and engineers left Germany
Or be damned to watching it repeated, in which case we are armed with the tools to fight back, peacefully - tyranny doesn’t know how to combat peace and nonviolence and resorts to violence on every flimsy excuse every time. We need masses and evidence if we are to overcome tyranny within
I’m mentally exhausted & so very sick of all of this. We are in May of the first year. We will be wiped out by the end of his term & will be a shadow of who we were. Every aspect of what made us special will be shattered & no, we won’t be able to piece it back together. We are in a very bad place.
You're not yet at the phase where Sterling Media is the only one left, and every billboard tells you that you're a traitor if you don't support annexing Canada and Greenland
This is a great opportunity for Western nations to accept Americans as migrants, and disillusioned international students who don't want to go to the US. It could be a huge economic boon to those countries, lifting up STEM fields, increasing their healthcare staffing, improving their economies.
Stupidity has become a badge of honor for Republicans. And I say Republicans and not MAGA because they are now one and the same. There are no longer “good” Republicans; they have all bent their knee to the fascist felon rapist.
They are like vultures. They want to feed off a dead country, rather than try and be part of a thriving one. Because they have nothing really to offer a thriving one.
Dear Americans. Feel free to think you're the lion and we're the splinter in paw. John McCain was the last one to visit Hungary and meet with politicians before Orbán took over. Exactly because you willfully and wrongly ignored us (and still do) is why you are here.
You were asleep at the wheel while the GOP went and studied how to dismantle democracy and your response is a few strongly worded letters and trying to find the joe Rogan if the left
Before Orbán took power a second time Hungary's universities were in the 500 of the whole world. Do you know who went there besides Rubik and Karikó? The men of the Danube Institute who helped write project 2025.
Orban has removed, often by force, over 27,000 ( radical🙄) professors, students & staff, at Hungary’s most prestigious universities. Many of those 27,000 are now in prison. So yeah It Does matter if this is what right wingNUTS want for the U.S.
When I was a kid, I would spend all day building things in the sand box. At the end, I almost always destroyed whatever I built, because that was fun too and I didn't want to let anyone else derive that pleasure out of my work.
While on the topic of destroying scientific research, anyone else find it quite interesting that the first book burning done by the Nazis was science about LGBT+ people, and that also happened to be the first research scrubbed from the federal government?
China should be creating a
“Little America” special science and technology region and rolling out the red (!) carpet for western scientists and engineers right now. They could totally eat our lunch.
People also seem to have forgotten that in NY, Trumps running of his own university ended with him being ordered to pay back millions of dollars and being banned from involvement in any educational institution
Harvard discriminates against ✡️ & Trump admin pretends they care as an excuse to act on their xenophobic while they discriminate against all minorities.
Whilst I agree in the main your summation of researchers may I politely point out Newton, Hawkins, Rutherford, Lovell Lovelace, Babbage, Clarke (admittedly he could be challenged as he was not strictly a ‘researcher’ but credited with the theory of geostationary motion) Turing, Newman-All British
One of the things you quickly learn doing construction is the art (and trust me, it IS an art) of demolition. Know what needs to go, what needs to stay and the order in which to dissect it is critical for safety and cost effectiveness. Going scorched-earth, is for idiots who can't plan ahead.
My theory on just about any job or process is to learn the current/present job or process. That way you have an idea of why things are done as they are. You can then start to change what needs change. Slowly so that if the change breaks something, you can fix it before trying another change.
China will lead the world...and just might save the world. The US is a failed state. I don't know how the 'ugly Americans' who insist they are the end-all will react. But it won't be pretty.
I will never forget.‘I have been screaming for years. And especially since the announcement of the military parade. Hitler did that and then the Holocaust happened.
Never forget and never happen again. Trump idolized Hitler.
So true.
Parallel, I always thought that thieves and robbers are really despicable, as parasites to the work that others put in - to make a living, build society. So petty to rip it out of their hands. Cause what do you contribute? Is that the best you can do? The best choice to make? Loser.
It’s a great point about Harvard and many other things. All what you’d call ‘soft power’ for the US, like their tech domination. The ‘strategy’ (if indeed worthy of the name) seems to be to trade this for hard power (eg tariffs) but there is a limit on how long this can last and how far it can go!
It's worse than that - even if people graduate from Harvard, areas of research have been completely closed down, so many potential scientists will find themselves unable to pursue their chosen field in the US.
And the countries which offer them the opportunities will benefit in the long term.
Yes isn’t it mostly Historians like Tim Snyder? And former Russian ambassador Michael McFaul ( Professor at Stanford) needs to get out NOW. Pootin has many times asked that he be sent back to Russia so pootin can have a little chat w/ him.
I just heard that Joe Biden had to go thru an Air Port and everything, everybody stopped and then everyone clapped and told him how they miss him, love him, and wish him well. Did that actually happen? I sure hope it did. They said Biden was heart warmed, humbled.
The effect was so pervasive that even as late as 1983, when I started my BSc, chemistry students were advised to take German as their second language.
This was in Canada, where being bilingual in English and French opens a lot of doors in most professions.
My grandparents, who were chased out of Ukraine by Stalin,would say, "It takes generations to get a 1 new freedom, a moment of fear and complacency to lose all of them."
Indeed, The Manhattan project that built the first Nuclear bomb compromised refugees from Germany and Europe. Americas moon landing owed to an ex NAZI brought to America under Operation Paperclip.
Donald Trump's knowledge is extremely limited, whether social, scientific, political, or global. It's more than dangerous when such people wield a great deal of power and make decisions whose consequences they cannot fully comprehend due to their limited perspective.
Well, this might look dire for Harvard University, they will remain a real University forever, while capitulating schools like Columbia have lost all of their credibility as a places of higher education.
The success of a country is directly proportional to the education of it's population. America's future is bleak unless stops assaulting science and education in general.
1551, one in Lima and a second in Mexico City. There was one founded earlier in what would be the Dominican Republic, but it closed for a century or so until reopened in 1914
Looked it up now. I don't see the one in Mexico City, but apparently there are four universities in South America that are older than Harvard. Never would have even suspected that. So I amend my assertion to "oldest continuously operating university/institution in North America".
The Chinese also hired 2 of the best from Harvard. They gave them top dollar and all the bene's...They will come out with the 2 new cancer cures and Americans may not see them for years...
Today when the WH heard they were hired, they said this was BS....we know where the BS starts in this country and it isn't the Chinese, it's the MAGATs and their fat orange BS and liar!
Thank a MAGA today, they own everything this shitstain has done.
100%correct! Other countries are Already snatching scientists now if they ban international students we're done because the pipeline ends then too. Our stupid narcissistic racist idiot will make USA ashes not best.
Harvard is more than buildings. Move to Canada - land of the free. Harvard could use this opportunity to become the world’s university with campus locations in Mexico, Greenland, Denmark, Canada, and anywhere people are free to speak and learn. How about going totally online for the next 4 years?
Not happy with the "Hungary does not matter. Whatever Orban does to Hungarian universities does not matter-but Harvard matters". Of course Hungary matters. Freedom for just us sounds way to close to the thinking of the plague in Washington. And those German actions led to WWII. Remember?
Closing agencies that handle serious outbreaks and finds cures for new viruses are all closed now. Scientists are fleeing the country and all we have are dumb conspiracy theorists in charge.
U.S. scientists are already fleeing to other countries. It's just the start of a giant brain drain that will sap the ability of our country to recover from this regime.
Why are these billionaires in Offices making rules for us working people of America?
At days end they get up from their desks, straighten up their $75.00 ties, smooth down their $1000 suits, call a limo to take them to go eat a $150.00 dinner
Why should that bimbo or any of the other idiots in the regime get to decide who gets to go to Harvard?? Harvard is one of the best colleges in the world. Now these assholes who are so adamantly opposed to free thinking get to decide who goes to school there. They are going to destroy the world.
If the regime has their way that’s exactly what it will be. They don’t respect anything least of all higher learning. They want everybody here as dumb as possible and unable to think for themselves.
I was just saying this. It’s just like all the great minds fleeing Germany in the 30’s and 40’s to come here. Only now they are fleeing here for other places.
Hungary also has nationalized healthcare, 6 months of paid parental leave (& up to 3 years of maternity leave with benefits), no income tax for moms of 2+ kids, subsidized childcare, & they recognize climate change, yet we never see Republicans wanting to emulate those parts of Orbán's government...
Much of that is the opposite of Project 2025. Heritage Foundation wanted to eliminate childcare for infants to force women to stay home without income!
Seems to me they have no respect for women. Actually resenting them in the work force. Why would any woman want a Republican man when they treat women so bad.
a monkey can destroy a pottery shop in one eight hour shift - 2 or 3 hundred pieces that took a 10, 20 or 30 people days or weeks to complete (not to overlook the fact they took years to master the craft of making masterful pottery)
Trump and his goons are too stupid to turn the US into Nazi Germany. But we’re allowing some of the dumbest people in public life to erase a scientific/technological advantage America has enjoyed for decades, while undermining the democracy that helped us maintain it. We’re going to pay dearly.
With financing from billionaires, guidance from authoritarian regimes abroad, some of the world's most advanced weaponry, and collaboration with leading companies in surveillance, data analytics, and AI, it doesn't matter that they, themselves, aren't geniuses. The thinking is outsourced.
Hungary matters a lot. One of the scientists Hungary chased out while voluntarily allying with the Nazis was a brilliant mathematician & scientist named John von Neumann. He helped the US WW II effort in numerous ways, on par with Einstein if not more so.
And Orban has made it his life’s work to destroy Hungarian Billionaire George Soros. Orban is the reason that he’s on every radar screen of the U.S. right wingNUTS.
Hitler destroyed not just millions of human beings, he destroyed an enormous scientific and technical ecosystem in central Europe that will never regain its former place in the world.
I totally agree. Creating something is many times harder than destroying it. But they recklessly destroy what matters. They will never get recognition for this.
The MAGA mob don’t need academic merit as long as they can buy titles. They’ve no use for experts because apparently everything's just 'common sense'. All they want is to be surrounded by idiots — ideally ones even dimmer than themselves.
"It's easy to create fish soup from a thriving aquarium, just turn up the heat. But it's nearly impossible to turn fish soup into a thriving aquarium." George Stalder, Cornell Economist. He was talking about Soviet economies after the fall of the USSR. Today, 47 is turning us into fish soup.
America gained many German scientists before, during and after WW II. Now the tide is going out, back to Europe, maybe to Asia. Nothing but catastrophic, while FOTUS promotes conspiracy theories in the WH & with his cabinet. Mind boggled. Just bc you don't understand science doesn't mean it's wrong.
Don’t forget that other fascist states did similar things. Spain under Franco sent intellectuals abroad - el Colegio de Mexico was founded as a direct result. Chilean, Argentine, and Brazilian intellectuals fled the dictatorships in the 1960s and 70s as well often ending up in US universities.
They’ll move to California making California not only the fourth largest economy in the world. But , now the seat of academia and progressive thought .
Building takes trust, freedom, and decades of care.
Fascism just needs fear, projection, and a crack in the system.
Germany’s universities weren’t lost to war—they were lost to ideology.
America should take note.
What’s being destroyed isn’t just education—it’s memory.
#PatternRecognition
For a few decades post-war it was required or recommended for Physics and Chemistry grad students to take German, so they could read the old literature. The fresh science output from West Germany was not a big factor.
Conservatives in Canada do much the same destroyed our military jet program , gave away our nuclear program closed vaccine labs gave away our control over insulin just to name a few
Add to this the bigoted racist attitude of the Nazi's
Would not accept any discovery by a jew
So denied Einstein's science
Delaying significantly their own nuclear research
And thankfully preventing them from making the first atomic bomb
OTOH.. Harvard is a elitist badge. They don't have the corner on research or education. I feel destroying it is a wash, so Ill just kick back and watch.
The middle-east was the scientific center of the world until Islam showed up a thousand years ago, now it's been a deadzone of advancement for that same thousand years.
Since China is offering a place for those at Harvard that will be affected by donvicts idiocy it seems that they understand how to build a thing, all while laughing at our demise.
People think it is just a matter of putting a democrat back in the White House they do not get that this damage that Trump has done will take generations to repair.
this is what I think of when people say "We just gotta survive 4 years of this" No. this is gonna be decades, assuming the younger ones who are spear heading/supporting The Agenda don't further their power. Vance is YOUNG & if they succeed in what they're doing, we wont just be able to vote em out
Oh its already destroyed we have not have a democracy since the World War 2. Most people are too stupid and lazy to realize that. The Oligarchs have been systematically corrupting government and stealing power since the foundation of the military industrial complex.
During this time, Germany had some of the best composers and they all left, many for America who welcomed them. They changed the landscape for composition and classical music. It wasn't just science; it was everything that made them human. And what was left were not humans. Hitler attended ...
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The goal is to destroy research and independent progress. Trump believes that the Oligarchs should control all the research and all the technology.
― Gene Sharp, From Dictatorship to Democracy
Resist ✊🏻
But Not Anymore
Learn from history or be damned to repeat it.
They created that!
people are no longer taught...
there is a major difference...
i used wonder what holocaust deniers were trying to accomplish...
now i know
Conservatives destroy
Watched RFKjr performance.
He is destroying the Kennedy name.
What an arrogant 🦕 dinosaur, he is decades behind in science.
It's that simple -- and that revolting.
https://bsky.app/profile/briantylercohen.bsky.social/post/3lpu4iaeq2c24
Without science being practiced in the USA, America has abandoned its leadership in innovation.
Those dumb fucks.
Build time: 6 hours
Destroy time: 2 minutes
Saying: Accurate
“Little America” special science and technology region and rolling out the red (!) carpet for western scientists and engineers right now. They could totally eat our lunch.
Everything Trump Touches Dies
That, and exporting fascism.
An hour later
He had “Mein Kampf” - per court docs - 1st ex wife mysteriously ☠️ after her NDA expired.
His past is littered w/ ☠️ -from marriages; to bankruptcies (6); to DB Bank/🇷🇺 Loan Execs ☠️ ; to #Epstein ☠️ to #Putin; to destroying 🇺🇸 Econ $
#ETTD
@cnn.com @nytimes.com
@cnbc.com
I took a few screenshots, but read the part starting on the last paragraph of page 168.
https://www.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/FINAL-Harvard-ASAIB-Report-4.29.25.pdf
No easy way out of this
Never forget and never happen again. Trump idolized Hitler.
Parallel, I always thought that thieves and robbers are really despicable, as parasites to the work that others put in - to make a living, build society. So petty to rip it out of their hands. Cause what do you contribute? Is that the best you can do? The best choice to make? Loser.
And the countries which offer them the opportunities will benefit in the long term.
Speak for yourself dude.
Did anyone notice that the german government offered to Host a “Harvard Exil Campus“ in case that the foreign students have to leave the US ?
ALL because a Fox News administration regime has been installed by a tyrant that doesn't know what day it is.🤨😮💨
He's a good and decent man. People appreciate him now seeing this nightmare.
The difference in this regime is night and day. Good vs Evil.
The effect was so pervasive that even as late as 1983, when I started my BSc, chemistry students were advised to take German as their second language.
This was in Canada, where being bilingual in English and French opens a lot of doors in most professions.
American brain drain.
American Aristocracy is gonna find its Noblese Oblige again or they will be eating Cake w Louigi written on it.
Dont ask the occasion, but it involves very particular cutlery.
Focus on the root cause - FOX News.
Thank a MAGA today, they own everything this shitstain has done.
I shared it
I believe is us!
It may take a bit to #wakeup
Failure is not an option!
At days end they get up from their desks, straighten up their $75.00 ties, smooth down their $1000 suits, call a limo to take them to go eat a $150.00 dinner
But they made big money today
Us...
Beans again?
https://www.businessinsider.com/2nd-amendment-countries-constitutional-right-bear-arms-2017-10
You are right !
🇺🇸😢
Edward Teller
Leo Szilard
Eugene Wigner
George Olah
Theodore von Karman
Non Player Characters,
We humans are the pests invading their vision of PERFECTION.
And the looting has begun.
Fascism just needs fear, projection, and a crack in the system.
Germany’s universities weren’t lost to war—they were lost to ideology.
America should take note.
What’s being destroyed isn’t just education—it’s memory.
#PatternRecognition
Super hard to build from the ground up.
😤
Would not accept any discovery by a jew
So denied Einstein's science
Delaying significantly their own nuclear research
And thankfully preventing them from making the first atomic bomb