I completely agree with this. It infects young kids too, which can, and will, damage them throughout adulthood - permanently if it is not addressed. Empathy is cringe. Compassion is cringe. Responsibility is super cringe. Fidelity to anything that isn’t your own feral instincts is fucking cringe. - ThreadSky | a Reddit-style client for Bluesky

isibb.bsky.social • 15 days ago

I completely agree with this. It infects young kids too, which can, and will, damage them throughout adulthood - permanently if it is not addressed.

Empathy is cringe. Compassion is cringe. Responsibility is super cringe.

Fidelity to anything that isn’t your own feral instincts is fucking cringe.

Reposted from Faine Greenwood

I'd like to see more writing on how the Musk/Trump junta feels like a frontal attack on the entire concept of virtue, in even the most traditional senses.

They are actively demonizing and punishing everyone who doesn't worship Mammon.

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meghanclare.bsky.social•15 days ago

I have seen this first hand with kids in my town. Small town, impoverished and opioid-ravaged Trumpy pocket of VT. Only makes it more difficult for the kids to participate, to feel hope and imagine themselves moving beyond their circumstances. It’s all grievance top to bottom

meghanclare.bsky.social•15 days ago

It’s extremely sad for the kids and I have a hard time imagining how we break through or out of it

tommyyork.bsky.social•15 days ago

My boy is four, and this shit is my biggest concern right now. Mainly because a lot of the other parents don't seem to be concerned at all, and he feels the effects through their kids. Hard to teach sharing when you don't practice it yourself.

stuntbirdarmy.bsky.social•15 days ago

What’s fascinating/really really bad is that they seem to also see considering the consequences of your decisions as effeminate and unacceptable as well, so they’re just doing random shit under the assumption that if it feels cool to do in the moment, it will make things better

solonnavy.bsky.social•14 days ago

Do not knock down random fences

isibb.bsky.social•15 days ago

Yeah, one of the most profoundly damaging ideas - the product of some awful stew of the internet, COVID, Musk, absentee parents, etc - is the idea that if it feels good it is good. If it’s funny it’s good. If it makes people you hate mad, it’s good. Even if you can see with your own eyes it’s bad.

haredurer.bsky.social•15 days ago

I’m not even sure it has to feel good. Spreading suffering around seems sufficient.

isibb.bsky.social•15 days ago

The definition of evil is feeling good when other people feel bad

isibb.bsky.social•15 days ago

You know what it really feels like? You know all these fuckin creeps see women on social media posting selfies or whatever and call it “fatherless behavior?”

Trump and Musk are the product of a generation of motherless boys, I’m positive.

culturalmarks.bsky.social•15 days ago

Trump and Musk's mothers were their biggest fans

solveforwhy.bsky.social•15 days ago

I thought they were boys whose daddies didn’t love them.

isibb.bsky.social•15 days ago

This behavior doesn’t have to do with a lack of love. It has to do with a lack of attention and care. Not the same.

solveforwhy.bsky.social•15 days ago

“Attention and care” are manifestations of love.

solveforwhy.bsky.social•15 days ago

So only the mothers were responsible for that?

unraptured.bsky.social•15 days ago

Elon himself has several kids who are effectively fatherless!

wesbarton.bsky.social•15 days ago

I feel like both of them are exactly what their mothers wanted them to be.

banalplay.bsky.social•15 days ago

In Vance's case he will adopt the outlook of any father figure who doesn't immediately leave or kick him out. Which will make his pain all the funnier when Trump inevitably turns on him.

isibb.bsky.social•15 days ago

And of course all this is self reinforcing. It’s militarized, violent immaturity. And if you point out it’s immature, THATS cringe.

stuntbirdarmy.bsky.social•15 days ago

Yeah that’s what feels different, aggressively defending behaving like the shittiest 15 year old you’ve ever met. “How do I get pussy without being nice to women” as a political ideology.

pretzelbundle.bsky.social•15 days ago

It’s more “I am being nice to women, it’s their problem if they don’t get it”

jane.meangirls.online•15 days ago

Musk had a mom but instead of mothering him properly she spent all her time fantasizing about living in a sci-fi nazi utopia.

benjayingly.com•15 days ago

Do we think he pays her for her current job of “going on TV to tell everyone what a good boy my adult son is”?

hughjanis.bsky.social•15 days ago

It’s the idea that all movement = progress

alicedyeforme.bsky.social•15 days ago

"the cult of action for action's sake"

isibb.bsky.social•15 days ago

That’s fascism baby

insortediaboli.bsky.social•15 days ago

Who knew letting the well to do off constantly with light wrist slaps would mean their kids feel no compunction about being maximally harmful

sc00tlord.bsky.social•15 days ago

This is why I am raising my kids in New York. One of the few places in the country with a working moral compass

tommyoblivion.bsky.social•15 days ago

ey! I’m teaching my kids respect here

isibb.bsky.social•15 days ago

Lol

banditelli.org•15 days ago

Are you disrespecting women because losers in your discord think it's cool?

Are YOU disrespecting women because losers in your discord think it's cool?

You MUST be disrespecting women because losers in your discord think it's cool, because I don't see any other losers from your discord here.

isibb.bsky.social•15 days ago

It doesn’t matter where you raise them. If you raise them, they’ll have one.

sc00tlord.bsky.social•14 days ago

I agree, there’s something about having kids here that creates a sense of empathy and goodness as a result of our close proximity.

haredurer.bsky.social•15 days ago

This is where 50 years of Neoliberalism got us. Thatcher was just early when she said “there’s no such thing as society.”

melissjpeltier.bsky.social•15 days ago

This has been happening gradually since the 80’s.
Remember “Greed is good”?
Trump just exploded the concept as part of the American identity.

melissjpeltier.bsky.social•15 days ago

(I wrote a novel published in 2013 about Reality TV as a major contributor to the deterioration of ethics & the explosion of selfishness in our country & among our kids. ) https://www.amazon.com/Reality-Boulevard-Hollywood-Insiders-Satire-ebook/dp/B00BBF23BW?dplnkId=691bf6c1-6585-4fce-b930-7b7119645d8b&nodl=1

bettiselj.bsky.social•15 days ago

Amorality/immorality to the max. Really upsetting to say the least

funnynora.bsky.social•15 days ago

And they are poisoning boys with this swill. It’s appalling.

niferiffic.bsky.social•15 days ago

Not just cringe. They’re reframing it as sin. Terrifying when they have such a large support base made up of blind-faith evangelicals.

katanon.bsky.social•15 days ago

I mean blind-faith is kinda a thing with evangelicals tbf. Otherwise they wouldn't believe some all-knowing, all powerful dude lives in the clouds and loves them unconditionally with conditions.

hughjanis.bsky.social•15 days ago

I have a daughter on the way and I keep thinking about having to train her physically and mentally to fight this societal rot. I know it’s lame and cringe but I can’t stop worrying that if don’t she’ll be infected with this malaise of unrepentant selfishness and greed.