"Trump won the election because voters rejected the status quo and had positive memories of his first term. But on most issues, they oppose what Republicans want to do in his second term." That's not a mandate. New from @saletan.bsky.social:
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It was less positive memories and more collective amnesia and right wing media brainwashing. Now we pay the price, for that and the apathy of the rest of the citizens. Alas.
Yeah but what you are totally ignoring is that trump et all couldn't care less about what MAGGAts think. He will do what he wants, when he wants, for as long as he wants. You all still think your 'laws' and 'conventions' and 'constitution' are going to protect you. Good luck with that.
This is where lack of understanding of how our government works affects political races. trump's 2017 was Obama's economy. trump bankrupted the Secret Service budget in 2017 by taking too many family vacations. No one ever talked about it.
By 2019 we were headed for a recession. 2020 = disaster.
I think the idea of a mandate will evaporate when we see the House, Senate, and White House fighting each other and themselves constantly over the next two years.
Certainly not a "mandate" to push through cabinet members in recess/ or without FBI vetting and input from Senators. The popular vote "win" continues to shrink, as the California vote is tallied -- including additional Dem wins in the US House.
I don't have ANY positive memories of Trump's 1st term. And even if there were some, all of it is eclipsed by the half million who died due to Trump's incompetence. Am I the only one who feels this way?🙄
You’re definitely not. I remember every day being some new outrage/terror. It probably took years off my life.
But most people don’t pay attention like that. As soon as the dust settles from the election, they pay no attention to anything beyond their day to day.
"Despite the severity of these actions, which posed significant threats to the integrity of future elections, federal authorities—specifically the DOJ and FBI—failed to act."
And the positive memories that they state are....?I don't remember one at all, and that's not because I loathe the guy.I just don't remember one.Or is this like when you ask someone the top 3 ideas that they love about his health care plan or any of his 'policies', they're unable to answer.
Yeah, positive memories kinda rocked my brain to the core! He was also laughed at at the UN. He broke protocol w/Her Majesty & other world leaders. He was afraid of a little rain at a WWI cemetery honoring our dead soldiers. He cow-towed to Putin in Helsinki. He was an embarrassment.
And he is older, less coherent, and no longer has any reason to even try to act like a normal adult. You thought the first administration was embarrassing? You ain’t seen nothin’ yet!
And let’s not forget - he has no checks and balances this time. His new administration is a bunch of stooges that will do whatever he says. There no Miley or Bolton this time. God help us
I can handle embarrassing. What worries me is the damage that can result from some of his smarter & more dangerous appointees if they’re approved by senate Rs. They seem hell bent on destroying everything for their gain.
I’m more worried about the South African Rasputin and the religious zealots. But this Trump administration will definitely be a national embarrassment. It’s already started with his call to the Mexican president, who at least called him out for the lies.
So right. If you talked to any of the MAGAts then or recently, you know they live in completely different information universe. The Trump/Fox/Breitbart/Newsmax syndicate has control.
Why aren't liberal groups doing the same to Republicans?
That, right there, is the problem. The left refuses to admit we are in a mud-wrestling match and therefore refuses to get dirty.
Until we do to them what they are doing to us they will continue to win.
The strategy to elect Kamala was very similar to what Plouffe did for Obama. But he miscalculated. The world had changed and the Republican were angry and nasty. Dems tried to stay above the fray. Didn’t work. You’re right. Gotta get dirty. Forget the They Go Low, We Go High
Supporters and defenders of a 2nd term for Trump during the campaign and now is that he really won't do the things he promised to do once in office. Not really a smart way to elect a president IMHO.
What are positive memories from his first term? I only recall misery. I do hope his voters experience the consequences of their choice. We will all suffer, but it will hopefully move us to change for the good.
I remember four years of hyper anxiety. Waking with dread at the thought of what he tweeted in the early morning hours. It was miserable to anyone paying attention.
You should see some of the 18th century philosophy and commentary on democracy. Many were horrified at the idea, how could the great unwashed masses possess any wisdom that could work?
Trump won because he lied so much about everything that he hit all of their talking points in one sound byte or another, even though he didn't mean most of it, and those sound bytes were repeated, ad nauseum, in the right echo chambers, where those voters will never learn the truth about any of it.
Yea not really. I live in red state (purple), and know a lot of maga.
They voted for Donald primarily because “it there team” i cant find but a few who can tell me Trump policy focus other that get rid of Latinos. It red v blue to them.
What are these "positive memories" ...the part where a million people died, or maybe the economy collapses...or maybe when we were supposed to ingest bleach???
I will never forget in June 2020 when my mom said Covid was a hoax made up to make Trump look bad & that it would disappear in November after the election. Especially now considering she’s still getting over a severe case of Covid that nearly killed her last month.
The answer we consistently get is that right-wing propaganda erased or nullified it.
I suppose the answer works if you're stupid, have ridiculous selective memory, and are clueless about that peaceful transfer of power thing. These morons truly think they're Americans, too, seriously.
Trump won the election because there are a lot of misogynistic racists in this country. Please stop trying to normalize the heinous voting choice of the American electorate.
Voters suffer amnesia because they chose someone responsible for the needless death of hundreds of thousands due to Covid, suggested ingesting bleach as a cure and had to be reminded by a national security adviser that no sir, you cannot detonate a nuclear warhead to change the path of a hurricane.
* Fox "News"
* Corporate price-gouging
* Massive Russian propaganda
* "Useful idiots"
* Widespread influence of Sinclair Group on broadcast news
* "Normalization" of Trump lunacy
* Money from billionaires
* Misguided religious fanaticism
* Bigotry and stupidity
Yeah, I blame Trump less than uncritical "swing voters" who chose to believe his all-too-obvious lies and illogic. The argument that tariffs, tax cuts, and deporting workers will 𝘥𝘦𝘤𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘴𝘦 inflation is on the order of "flood makes things dry". Or maybe they just wanted entertainment.
I wish Democrats could grasp that Republicans don't give a shit about whether they actually have a "mandate" and it's just a thing they say to shape a favorable press narrative around them serving the interests of the oligarchists.
Christ, the Bush II administration was not that long ago.
Big tax break for the 1% tried like hell to kill the ACA
Grifted the hell out of the tax payer and created the greatest devision sense the civil war
What the hell the people that voted for Trump think he will do for them is a mistory to me
And who the heck has positive memories of the deplorable things that happened in the first Trump administration? Separating children from their parents? Who thinks that's positive?
"Let's vote for the party whose agenda we don't want." I do not understand these people, and I suppose I should try to, but I am really frustrated with trying to have empathy with the Trump voter who seems to have such contempt for everyone else and who votes in ways that hurts so very many of us.
Those positive memories of the Felon's term were the result of the success of the Obama Administration's hard work. The Felon's criminal mishandling of the China trade war and the pandemic was enough to let people know how weak, spineless, stupid, selfish and completely incapable he was and is.
Positive memories of the first Trump administration? Well, except for that little pandemic thing. And they did like those stimulus checks, which he took credit for. And he replaced the brown guy with the funny name.
They’re in for a shock. He says he has a mandate. It’s going to get ugly, fast.
I know a few who voted for Trump. They see what he has in store for this country and are showing concern. I told them, "Come February, we'll all start suffering together." It makes me feel a little better.
Pollsters should ALWAYS follow up these questions with;
If X, why?
If Y, why?
From a YouGov poll in May; Is Biden doing enough, too much or too little to help Israel?
Pretty equally divided between the 3.
When asked what he SHOULD do;
Most said what he IS doing, or what a potus can NOT do.
🤯
MAGA is kind of a mirror image of the Yippie movement if you know what that was. Like bookends to an era, Yippie, to Rippie. It's followed by backlash.
When you know what T is about to do as president because he told you so and you sit at holiday dinners trying desperately not to panic 😱 with his voters.
That's the lowest margin of victory in 56 years since Nixon defeated Humphrey in 1968 by 0.5%.
In 1968 the national sentiment was anti-incumbent. LBJ was underwater and dropped out. Humphrey, his VP, got the nom. w/o having to compete in primaries.
I voted against Trump 3 times, but I don’t understand all the discussion about whether he has a “mandate.” Every candidate who wins an election has a mandate to execute their agenda. That’s the point of elections. Here, I don’t expect people to like that agenda - but it is what they voted for.
Can't wait to hear the whining when they realize crops are rotting because immigrants weren't taking "black jobs" after all. Get out there and pick those strawberries, KAREN! 😂
If they opposed what he wants to do, they needed to state their preference with their vote. Lacking that, they literally voted for what he wants to do. Buyer's remorse won't put bread on the table.
Labels are useless. His campaign convinced more than enough Americans to vote for him rather than Harris (despite the felonies and the insanity). We now need to move forward and hope the union doesn't collapse before Jan 20, 2029. 🤞🙏
The idea that this was a "landslide" or that he has a "mandate" is preposterous. That's like saying a basketball game with a 77 to 75 score was a landslide victory for the winning team. It's a very divided country. I expect his approval rating will be underwater as soon (or before) he takes office.
Time out, everyone. The “mandate” concept hasn’t met a personality cult before, not in the United States anyway. As long as Trump keeps a united Republican Party behind him — which could be a good long while — he can govern as if he has a mandate.
Not entirely convinced. They are so in over their heads with what they are promising to do, they could easily get stymied, bored, then walk away. Governing is hard work, you can't just make edicts and they are unquestionably followed. Project 2025 is nothing, if not extremely ambitious.
One can hope that they inexperience & general incompetence will cause them to lose interest. Or maybe their ego cause so much infighting nothing gets done. Also, Donnie golfs a lot.
From the little bit I’ve seen, he’s still golfing, despite that botched assassination attempt (if it was really an attempt & not staged bc, at this point, I don’t trust MSM).
I can't take much solace in hopes the enemy forgets to drink its "go go juice," nor can the lack of a mandate stop these ratf*ckers from large portions of the agenda. But - With the House margins so slim, there must be a few persuadables to defect or at least sabotage an odious bill or two
Positive memories of bodies in refrigeration trucks. Scandal and drama daily, supply chain issues including no toilet paper or grocery products on shelves.
The media and politicians keep ignoring on purpose the reason Trump won, it was hate and bigotry and little to do with anything else. But of course the absolute sin in American politics is to speak badly about voters no matter how vile, hateful, and bigoted they are, so no one will tell the truth.
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By 2019 we were headed for a recession. 2020 = disaster.
But most people don’t pay attention like that. As soon as the dust settles from the election, they pay no attention to anything beyond their day to day.
That, right there, is the problem. The left refuses to admit we are in a mud-wrestling match and therefore refuses to get dirty.
Until we do to them what they are doing to us they will continue to win.
I hate it too.
Constitutions are there to impose limits to the excesses of any politician.
They are what we got.
Did I miss something? When did he save America before?!
Oh yes, he’s probably thinking of all of the millions of people he killed off?
They voted for Donald primarily because “it there team” i cant find but a few who can tell me Trump policy focus other that get rid of Latinos. It red v blue to them.
Good lord…
Did they sleep through it all?
I suppose the answer works if you're stupid, have ridiculous selective memory, and are clueless about that peaceful transfer of power thing. These morons truly think they're Americans, too, seriously.
Chumps
🤷 I call'em as I see 'em.
* Fox "News"
* Corporate price-gouging
* Massive Russian propaganda
* "Useful idiots"
* Widespread influence of Sinclair Group on broadcast news
* "Normalization" of Trump lunacy
* Money from billionaires
* Misguided religious fanaticism
* Bigotry and stupidity
>>> Resist!
Christ, the Bush II administration was not that long ago.
Grifted the hell out of the tax payer and created the greatest devision sense the civil war
What the hell the people that voted for Trump think he will do for them is a mistory to me
They’re in for a shock. He says he has a mandate. It’s going to get ugly, fast.
If X, why?
If Y, why?
From a YouGov poll in May; Is Biden doing enough, too much or too little to help Israel?
Pretty equally divided between the 3.
When asked what he SHOULD do;
Most said what he IS doing, or what a potus can NOT do.
🤯
Sadly, over half the nation does not vote.
And even more sad is less than 25% gets you in the white house.
25% is NOT a mandate.
Not ONE thing that resulted from it.
I can think of dozens of negative memories, though.
That's the lowest margin of victory in 56 years since Nixon defeated Humphrey in 1968 by 0.5%.
In 1968 the national sentiment was anti-incumbent. LBJ was underwater and dropped out. Humphrey, his VP, got the nom. w/o having to compete in primaries.
Sound familiar?
Trump won because female candidates can’t win. White straight male astronaut would have won.