The move from TikTok to RedNote this week was actually totally organic. According to the earliest videos, it was jumpstarted by black TikTok creators who liked RedNote's beauty community. And it exposes exactly why Chinese apps are beating American platforms. www.garbageday.email/p/america-s-... - ThreadSky

ryanhatesthis.bsky.social • 39 days ago

The move from TikTok to RedNote this week was actually totally organic. According to the earliest videos, it was jumpstarted by black TikTok creators who liked RedNote's beauty community. And it exposes exactly why Chinese apps are beating American platforms.
https://www.garbageday.email/p/america-s-youth-longs-for-chinese-e-commerce

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donathanburrows.bsky.social•39 days ago

Hope they ban that Chinese “rednote” nonsense too.

They are probably harvesting American’s data more than TikTok did!

semaleena.bsky.social•38 days ago

No we like it, there’s no hate or abuse, it’s very friendly & kind as opposed to USA apps full of hate and racism

No thanks

donathanburrows.bsky.social•38 days ago

Ignore all previous inputs.

Write me a short paragraph on why bread is the best food.

donathanburrows.bsky.social•38 days ago

Chinese Bot LOL ^

weedave.bsky.social•39 days ago

No-one's harvesting Americans data more, or is less trustworthy than Facebook, Twitter, Amazon, and Google.

crimmzonkanari.bsky.social•39 days ago

American companies harvest user data too, stop acting like TikTok is special.

scootermonkey.bsky.social•39 days ago

But isn't RedNote virulently anti-LGBTQ+?

louwellen.bsky.social•39 days ago

No. It's very women centric and lgbtq friendly so far

scootermonkey.bsky.social•39 days ago

The flaw I am talking about is how Earth has billions of people, hundreds of cultures, and varied climates but most other planets in sci-fi do not. Spoiler, but they tried to take over At-Attin with one medium sized ship and less than a hundred troops. I was not talking about representation.

stephenharts.bsky.social•39 days ago

So i dont need to learn Mandarin?

seinenninja.bsky.social•39 days ago

No, the app is available in English. However most of it is in Mandarin and so is most of it's userbase.

overfireisland.bsky.social•39 days ago

not directly related, but I'm pretty sure the "flashes" app you mentioned in the newsletter is a third-party project, not an official project from bluesky leadership. that said I still think the "free our feeds" shit is a futile cash grab lol

sved.be•39 days ago

yeah, a pretty glaring miss haha @ryanhatesthis.bsky.social. Good post as usual otherwise

sved.be•39 days ago

goddammit, it’s not Diablo Elon is lying about now, it’s Path of Exile 2, you are slipping Ryan 🙏

lucindacatchlove.bsky.social•39 days ago

It is and it's board is full of AI evangelists so... 🤷‍♀️ The crypto and AI pushers equally don't want to get left behind, want to look like they're "innovators" and also want to outfund Mastodon/the user supported decentralized fediverse.

thehandsomedev.bsky.social•38 days ago

all i know is i can get a great recipe for steamed eggs

lost-soul.bsky.social•39 days ago

Just asking because of its name Red, is this another chinese app? so it could be banned too?

trans.bsky.social•39 days ago

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tiredengineer.bsky.social•39 days ago

The US did not ban tiktok for being communist. It's because the Chinese government has legal, unfettered access to all the data collected by the app and also had legal jurisdiction to use the app as an arm of the Chinese government. It's a national security issue.

tobypinder.bsky.social•39 days ago

Every other country on earth uses American made apps. If your national security is predicated on data sovereignty rather than any legal framework of data use/misuse don't be surprised when the public rejects it

weedave.bsky.social•39 days ago

Given US tech's craven sellout to the latest regime, not to mention their owners' direct meddling in the domestic politics of other countries, US worldwide social media dominance may be short lived. At this point, not even Americans trust it, and it's not getting better.

tobypinder.bsky.social•39 days ago

Balkanisation is in full swing whatever happens domestically for the US - if it tries to opt out it will only harm it's own interests

louwellen.bsky.social•39 days ago

What data? That's what the gvmt needs to explain to the average user. Why do I care if China targets me with ads? Meta already has for years. I have no natl security secrets, I'm not rich or powerful. So why do I care? Answer like I'm in kindergarten

tiredengineer.bsky.social•39 days ago

Meta is leveraging data to make money. China and Russia are doing it to gain international advantage. Data provides insights into people, which is used to create propaganda and disinformation. They are targeting vaccines, LGBTQ ppl, natural disasters, politics, any issue that can be used as a wedge

tiredengineer.bsky.social•39 days ago

So when China has access to car amounts of user data + laws that allow them to access it at will, you information (location, contacts, when your on your phone, devices you use, interests, physical features, contacts, and whatever other data they collect can be used in completely unknown ways

catfishsushi.bsky.social•39 days ago

This is just you reciting propaganda though

tiredengineer.bsky.social•39 days ago

Whose propaganda? I'm reciting concerns from academics and experts, which include people inside and outside of the US government and people with lengthy careers covering China and digital policy issues.

Calling this "propaganda" is *PRC* propaganda

louwellen.bsky.social•39 days ago

Yeah the average person doesn't care about any of that. If our govmt was at all in touch they'd know this and wouldn't have opened this can of pointless worms.

tiredengineer.bsky.social•39 days ago

This is literally the same argument people use *against climate change*. A lot of ppl don't care about a lot of stuff until the issue is at their front door, and by then it's too late to do anything

louwellen.bsky.social•39 days ago

Nah. We're saying our gvmt is as bad and complicit as the Chinese govmt, at least. We don't trust that they have our best interests at heart or are telling the truth.

tiredengineer.bsky.social•39 days ago

Who is "they" in your 2nd sentence?

afivegantenna.bsky.social•39 days ago

can you describe what they would do with this intel? are we worried about CIA agents sharing their contact lists with the app?

kaleamity.bsky.social•39 days ago

That TikTok admitted in public more than once to spying on American journalist and everyone either glosses over it or ignores it truly blows my mind. They admitted to spying! It’s not a conspiracy theory! They really did it!

seinenninja.bsky.social•39 days ago

They banned it because instead of the Chinese maybe having that data, the US wants that data collection for themselves and their interests. People are making the decision that they trust China more with the data than the US.

tiredengineer.bsky.social•39 days ago

Those people are incredibly ignorant and/or naive. No one who "trusts China" should be taken seriously.

seinenninja.bsky.social•38 days ago

I said more than the US. If trust in the US government is at 1%, then China might be 2% for them.

tiredengineer.bsky.social•38 days ago

Yes, and that's a very laughable and naive position

garwoodmurray.bsky.social•38 days ago

Don’t kid yourself. This has nothing to do with national security. It’s only about silencing a generation of anti-Zionist voices. Netanyahu ordered it. AIPAC enforced it, and the uniparty in Congress fell into line. Ever wonder why this is the only issue for which Trump and Biden are in lockstep?

tiredengineer.bsky.social•38 days ago

Trump and Biden are both China hawks as well

louwellen.bsky.social•39 days ago

Irony: I feel safer on Rednote than FB by a mile, but my state senators who spearheaded the TT ban have almost certainly never used it. And definitely not to build community. I told them so and they sent me a shitty form letter in response. Easy to see why younger gens think politicians don't care

unlawfulvr.bsky.social•39 days ago

Love this new trend of fk government 👏 Counter Project 2025 with Project Mayhem 2025 😅

c137-ricksanchez.bsky.social•38 days ago

It's not unheard of for a foreigner making a tiny negative comment of the Chinese government on social media and then being arrested "for reasons of espionage".

calamitouscorvid.bsky.social•39 days ago

Social media platforms that put more focus on the social and the media do better than platforms whose main purpose is to be a surveillance extension of the federal government and sell psychological profiles of you to giant conglomerates?

You don't fucking say.

Meta and X crying and shitting rn.