Can anyone explain to me 1) whether (besides the SDNY lawsuit over climate data removed) anyone is suing on behalf of farmers 2) if not why not? Trump is bankrupting farmers. www.hppr.org/hppr-news/20... - ThreadSky

emptywheel.bsky.social • 1 day ago

Can anyone explain to me 1) whether (besides the SDNY lawsuit over climate data removed) anyone is suing on behalf of farmers 2) if not why not?

Trump is bankrupting farmers.

https://www.hppr.org/hppr-news/2025-02-27/funding-freeze-leaves-kansas-farmers-unpaid-for-work-they-already-completed

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qfalconer.bsky.social•1 day ago

Ain't that a bitch...

You got what you voted for, FU.

FAFO, leopards need to eat too.

heavymetalmike.bsky.social•1 day ago

#RepublicansDidThis

stephaniejones.com•1 day ago

It's often difficult to find plaintiffs with standing who are willing to put themselves on the line to commit to lengthy litigation.

Not sure if that's why here, but it could be a reason.

emptywheel.bsky.social•1 day ago

Agree it's one possible explanation. Another may be fewer people willing to take on cost of lawsuit who have ties to farmers.

I just want to understand, bc farmers are clearly being injured and they'd make plaintiffs who'd be sympathetic for right wingers.

nofoco.bsky.social•1 day ago

Most successful farms are large, corporate ventures now.

Quit picturing Ma &Pa out there in the fields.

Start thinking in Venture Capital terms. Tax shelters, subsidies and tax benefits.

This is all write-offs for now.

The real power will come with the carve outs for loyalists.

jrosew.bsky.social•1 day ago

I know they’ve been very loud to Moran and other senators, so maybe they’re hoping congressional intervention will win out?

stephaniejones.com•1 day ago

They need to understand there's only so much Congress can do ..m and folks need to stop waiting for other people to save them and step up and do some work, too.

jrosew.bsky.social•1 day ago

Agree!!

claire1.bsky.social•21 hours ago

Why are people surprised?

oldtehanu.bsky.social•1 day ago

They sued over climate data that they rely on. I imagine they will also sue about breeched contracts.

But trump doesn't obey court orders. Just changes details to be slippery and delay the resolution.

oldtehanu.bsky.social•1 day ago

https://www.newsweek.com/farmers-sue-agriculture-department-climate-information-government-website-2035619

macdhomnuill.bsky.social•1 day ago

Bad headline, its not farmers it was farming trade groups.

quietlycurious.bsky.social•20 hours ago

This breaks my heart. Farmers are the lifeblood of a nation. Where does that cretin in the White House think his fast food comes from??? The Big Mac tree??? He’s basically stealing from farmers.

triforcecap.bsky.social•1 day ago

My thought is that farmers expect to get handouts like they did in 2018/19…

freelancelawmom.bsky.social•1 day ago

Why did they need those “hand outs”? Oh yeah it’s bc Dump’s trade war with China devastated them. It’s not a hand out when the gov f*cks up first, it’s trying to make amends.

triforcecap.bsky.social•1 day ago

By ‘handout’ I was trying to differentiate between cash directly from the executive branch (like 18/19), versus an appropriation from congress. One is a handout, the other regular government function.

unewme.bsky.social•1 day ago

Except this time, they will let the farmers go bankrupt, so the billionaires can buy up the land.

grandmapaluki.bsky.social•1 day ago

What she said!!

soaked2thebone.bsky.social•1 day ago

Farmers who signed contracts w/the gov need to be paid NOW.
Trump bailed out the farmers during his 1st admin because most of them are GOP. Otherwise, they would have been left high & dry. This time around, who knows. By GOP "logic," a farmer installing solar panels has gone woke.

paradigm317.bsky.social•1 day ago

Farmers don’t want handouts

They want to do their jobs

nofoco.bsky.social•1 day ago

You don't understand how farming has changed.
The vast majority are large, corporate farms and they absolutely do want the handouts. It's free money.

triforcecap.bsky.social•1 day ago

US farmland is primarily owned by individuals and families. Corporate share of farming or farmland is negligible.

virbing.bsky.social•1 day ago

Depends on what you consider family. Large scale family farms are over $1M and comprise 46% or almost half of production. And most small scale farmers are working other jobs to support their families. All in that same report you cite.

derorfa.bsky.social•1 day ago

For now.
Or to say it with Frank Herbert: "Plans within Plans."

becky81751.bsky.social•1 day ago

Cry me a River….

realkeithlarson.bsky.social•1 day ago

State AGs in impacted states are best equipped, but won’t for political reasons. I imagine they assume favoritism will cause it to get fixed

norman927.bsky.social•1 day ago

He never honors contracts.

orangeexpat.bsky.social•1 day ago

Yes they voted for him, and yes they are suffering. But my guess is that they are still blaming Biden and still buying the spin and the brainwashing from FNC et al. It’s going to take more time for them to have a clear understanding of what’s really going on, and to realize just what they’re done.

ncweaver.skerry-tech.com•1 day ago

I suspect there are its just there are SO many higher profile suits against this madness ongoing that those take the attention. But I'd not want to be a rural Republican holding a town hall these days: those folks are the "2nd Amendment" people Trump referred to a few years back.

violaflak.bsky.social•1 day ago

Trump has stiffed people for work already done his whole life. Maga doesn't listen to facts or history

barb-t.bsky.social•1 day ago

trump bankrupted many farmers his first time around with his cockamamie soy bean tariff! Some lost farms, some committed suicide! trump maneuvered a rescue plan (paid for by taxpayers)! Some got millions! Some got $10! And farmers voted for him again in 2024! Not an iota of sympathy for fools!

blujnw.bsky.social•1 day ago

So they wanted Trump to run America like a business. They should have paid attention to his practices of stiffing the little guy and, then, out lawyering them.

andreasoni.bsky.social•1 day ago

These are most definitely Trump’s voters- wouldn’t it help the cause of democracy and the entire free world for these voters to feel the consequences of their support?

kim-mathers.bsky.social•1 day ago

They largely vote for Trump. Maybe the only way to get them to vote in their own interest is to let them feel the effects of their vote.

aquagyrl.bsky.social•18 hours ago

☝️

steve52.bsky.social•1 day ago

The same farmers who voted for fascism.

jukesgrrl.bsky.social•22 hours ago

Meanwhile, how many of them voted for him? I'd like to know before I start signing petitions for them.

LaNaehForaday.universeodon.com.ap.brid.gy•1 day ago

LETS BE PERFECTLY CLEAR HERE.............

Trump is bankrupting farmers.

Trump is bankrupting THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. How else will Trump BEAT MUSK at King of the Hill and have the most money.

@emptywheel.bsky.social

paradigm317.bsky.social•1 day ago

Kansas went 57% for Trump

How people are convinced to vote against their own interests fervently is beyond me

nelliedylan.bsky.social•1 day ago

Rural Kansas always goes VERY red. It's the cities that bring the percentage of blue voters up in Kansas. Kansas farmers routinely vote against their own best interests while they watch their rural hospitals close, crop prices drop and their own livelihood shriveling away.

politicalpr.bsky.social•1 day ago

I no longer care, they voted for him. Reap what you sow.

dell-adams.bsky.social•1 day ago

That's literally what's being placed in question, though: who sows and reaps what? And since that's what we eat...

contentwithsmiles.bsky.social•1 day ago

We need them though. We can’t eat feelings of told-you-so

politicalpr.bsky.social•1 day ago

Do we though? This year, 2025, agricultural imports are projected to reach $212 billion. Mexico and Canada are the main countries we import from.

contentwithsmiles.bsky.social•1 day ago

It’s true. I still think that abandoning US farmers would not be sustainable for us. Most of the food I eat is grown local…for now

politicalpr.bsky.social•1 day ago

I never suggested abandoning US farmers.

sheilerama.bsky.social•18 hours ago

Have you heard nothing about Trump’s constant threats to tank Canada’s and Mexico’s economies with tariffs “just beat he can”? At least Canada has been hustling to find better trade partners.

sheilerama.bsky.social•18 hours ago

Just because he can

soaked2thebone.bsky.social•1 day ago

In times of war, supply chains get disrupted & maybe we can do without some gadget manufactured elsewhere, but we can't do without food. Priortizing US agriculture is a matter of national security. 1/2

soaked2thebone.bsky.social•1 day ago

Farmers jumped on board with the agricultural component of Biden's Inflation Reduction Act and are now getting stiffed by Trump. This is so on brand for him, yet Biden is the one they hate. 2/2

whamlett.bsky.social•1 day ago

Farm organizatipns in general still believe trump will bail them out even while failing the rest of the country. They still support him.

standingup.bsky.social•1 day ago

Most of the farm lobbying organizations are very strong Republican supporters. Why aren't the elected Republican officials who represent so many of these farmers doing anything? Also, many farmers still support what Trump is doing because the government is bad and too big.

cbourne.bsky.social•1 day ago

They still support the administration?

gmc444.bsky.social•1 day ago

I’d be surprised if they weren’t working behind the scenes through their elected reps to get carve outs from the worst of the cuts.

Since it’s early yet, many trump voters are likely still thinking “it’s a mistake - he can’t mean to do this to *us*”

macdhomnuill.bsky.social•1 day ago

I live in farm country and my wife works with farmers, they are 100% not doing this. Farmers are the worst organized, most conservative, least educated block of the electorate. The secret is that farmers all hate each other and are cravenly jealous of their neighbors, they won't work together.

popssquared.bsky.social•1 day ago

Exactly - some of the most selfish folks I have ever met.

zkindt.bsky.social•11 hours ago

📌

gmc444.bsky.social•1 day ago

They may not work with each other, but do they gripe to their elected reps? I assumed that has to happen given the amount of ag subsidies, bailouts and contracts (e.g, USAID) that exist.

sdrahota.bsky.social•1 day ago

This is the most accurate description of farm country (where I grew up) that I have ever seen.

zkindt.bsky.social•1 day ago

yup, same

jamieportugal.bsky.social•1 day ago

Because farmers overwhelmingly voted for this. At least let them enjoy the fruits of their election

nofoco.bsky.social•1 day ago

Fuck em.
Let them stew in it for a while.

suzythealpacagoth.bsky.social•1 day ago

Last i heard it was the farm bureau gearing up but that's been at least two weeks.

joeycacpa.bsky.social•1 day ago

Good. They voted for him. FAFO

catsforpeace2.bsky.social•1 day ago

I was wondering the same.

emptywheel.bsky.social•1 day ago

Here's the suit on behalf of organic farmers (and others) demand that USDA put its climate data back up.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.637399/gov.uscourts.nysd.637399.1.0.pdf

mattsircely.bsky.social•1 day ago

cowboysangha.bsky.social•1 day ago

Think for a minute that they will hurt big, industrial farms, owned by the arbitrage crowd? The cuts hurt the little guys, and a few mid-size feedyards (e.g. more than 10,000 head of cattle on feed, my guess) that put up solar panels thinking they'd get reimbursed. The little guy gets fucked again.

coolxenu.bsky.social•1 day ago

American voters: the dumbest collective in the history of humanity.

#America #Republican

fuzzyziggy.bsky.social•1 day ago

Half of them…

leesylou.bsky.social•1 day ago

Not even…

collie274.bsky.social•1 day ago

Well im in an agricultural county and the farmers here voted for the lying donvict so theres that. Biden carefully crafted farm equipment into the infrastructure bill but farmers here said fjb (f joe biden) on flags on their trucks.

alwaysinabook.bsky.social•1 day ago

FAFO stupid people.

1whostrays.bsky.social•1 day ago

Guess they’re pretty sure trump via local repubs will bail em out again.

wolfman1.bsky.social•1 day ago

#Trump stiffing people is nothing new ... https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/report-trump-shortchanged-workers

pbcf.bsky.social•1 day ago

He didn’t pay the helicopter pilots he used on the apprentice either. Had trouble finding pilots by the end of the show.

masitax.bsky.social•1 day ago

The goal is to bankrupt farmers. Then, the oligarchy controls corporate ag.

jerryn13.bsky.social•1 day ago

1) Nothing that has made the headlines 2) possibly because the organizations & law firms that usually file suits on behalf of these interests tend to suck at the Heritage / Federalist / CPAC teat and supporting these sorts of claims is not in their interests.

daycaredreamer.bsky.social•1 day ago

They want to buy put all farmers to make all farms government owned

SETIEric.mastodon.sdf.org.ap.brid.gy•1 day ago

@emptywheel.bsky.social Bankrupt farmers and the ones who won't be able to find laborers will continue to be on Trump's side. They will find a way to blame someone else for everything he does.

speakupgirl.bsky.social•1 day ago

Hearing from a few rural farmers who voted for Trump ( again) are now angry with what he’s done

butterfly-phenix25.bsky.social•1 day ago

I just wondered the same. Do you know of any reporters in your area who might be willing to reach out to gain support for them?

galaxxyog.bsky.social•1 day ago

Our farmers were duped into voting for an imbecile- again

sonny9636.bsky.social•1 day ago

Isn’t there some kind of Farmers Association, and if so why aren’t they suing for them? Did they support this administration? If so that may be why….

kayambre.bsky.social•1 day ago

If farmers go under, their land goes on the market. Who buys up farmland on the cheap?

https://civileats.com/2024/09/18/jd-vance-invested-in-acretrader-heres-why-that-matters/

marlene72.bsky.social•1 day ago

His plan is to bankrupt everyone but the rich and entitled.

halftank.bsky.social•1 day ago

They need to feel immense pain. They’ve been bailed out more times than a kiddie pool.

steve1970peng.bsky.social•1 day ago

Farmers Vote Trump!

They can take that up with TRUMP!

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