This is one of the most telling observations abt the Signal chat (in story noting that US has not yet asked EU to pay). These people are SUPPOSED to be taking on China. But they saw the Yemen strike as helping Europe, not helping China ship goods to Europe. www.nytimes.com/2025/03/25/w... - ThreadSky

emptywheel.bsky.social • 3 days ago

This is one of the most telling observations abt the Signal chat (in story noting that US has not yet asked EU to pay).

These people are SUPPOSED to be taking on China. But they saw the Yemen strike as helping Europe, not helping China ship goods to Europe.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/25/world/europe/signal-jeffrey-goldberg-message-hegseth.html

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andydashiell.bsky.social•3 days ago

These people are C students at best.

mrtoads.bsky.social•3 days ago

Yup. They work for Russia.

standtall22.bsky.social•3 days ago

Don’t make the mistake of applying logic to this admin. That’s projection. No one can discern any foreign policy objectives. Their modus operandi is impulse or reaction. Nothing else. There isn’t even a concept of a plan.

drjamesjteeth.bsky.social•3 days ago

They aren’t confronting China. Everything they do weakens the US position toward China. Whatever it is they are doing they are not positioning the US against China. Every move points to a weaker United States incapable of competing in any form with China.

sportyjtb.bsky.social•3 days ago

Must not speaking aloud about helping China. That is only for actually secure comms.

balrogwtf.bsky.social•3 days ago

Oh wow... yeah... they're griping about stepping into an alleged power vacuum, but the dynamics are far different. It's a very Trumpy flex - as Vance said, the urgency was questionable. But no talk about the "what if we don't" - if the US leaves an empty space on the world stage, who steps in?

dorolitschy.bsky.social•3 days ago

If you have friends like that, you don't need enemies. 🙄

wayneesmith.bsky.social•3 days ago

Correct. The US cabinet officials aren't communicating with any ally in Europe or the Eastern Pacific nations (Japan, Australia, New Zealand). And why isn't China being transacted with as the EU clearly is?

matthewrose73.bsky.social•3 days ago

If China's ambition is to have the US become a vassal state within the next 50 years, the present political & economic realities are aligning.

gaotuuk.bsky.social•3 days ago

That’s Russian ambition as well, trash the place from within.
Most Presidents wouldn’t let them.

arkenor.bsky.social•2 days ago

And Israel, which is the whole stated reason for the Houthi actions, seems entirely absent from their reasoning.

kfanyo.bsky.social•2 days ago

If you've never seen "Spanky And Our Gang" it would explain a lot.

Lots of "Real Man Woman Hater's Club" going 'round. It's kind of fill-in-the-blank at this point.

rocketsfriends.bsky.social•3 days ago

Expectations are set waaaay to high for that level of analysis by the regime.

katefromnyc.bsky.social•2 days ago

And why should Europe pay? They didn’t ask the U.S. to do this, and it’s clear that the bombing was carried out IN SPITE of the fact that re-opening shipping lanes would benefit Europe (along w China and the U.S.)

The seething resentment the admin has toward our (former) allies is quite something.

muchacho.bsky.social•3 days ago

Belies their intention of ever bringing manufacturing and production back to the U.S.

thenewmalaise.bsky.social•3 days ago

China ships have and will continue to sail through without issue from Houthis. I'm sure Russia is helping identify and make sure their ships are allowed.

damianow.bsky.social•3 days ago

Well when you have a deep seated prejudice - it emerges.

true-bird.bsky.social•3 days ago

📌

jzikah.bsky.social•3 days ago

Make China Pay!
#MakeChinaPay

drgnlvr2019.bsky.social•2 days ago

That's cuz China's Xi is BFFs with Trump having given him business loans and also patents galore to both he and his daughter Ivanka. Trump is a lot of things but not so stupid as to screw with one of the most powerful men in the world.

retiree67.bsky.social•2 days ago

You claim that China gets most of its imported oil through the Bab el Mandeb straight. Where do you suppose that oil is coming from? Oil going from the Persian Gulf to China wouldn't go through Bab el Mandeb.

bowlingtogether.bsky.social•2 days ago

The lack of knowledge of geopolitics this chat reveals is stunning. This is what "meritocracy" is under the GOP. They will destroy us with their ignorance.

epluribus.bsky.social•3 days ago

Weird, right?

cdwilsher.bsky.social•3 days ago

There were a bunch of people on this chat, but no military people. Where was the (acting) Chairman of the Joint chiefs? Where was the Chief of Naval Operations? Where was anybody from Central Command?

l0rdmoos3.bsky.social•2 days ago

They were on the real Secure Chat where the operators were getting shit done, professionally.

Not at this kids' table shitshow.

bemoangamble.bsky.social•2 days ago

Trump is controlled and beholding to Putin, Xi & MBS. Trump, Putin, Xi & MBS regularly spew Pablum publicly. Such Pablum occasionally states policy disagreements between their respective countries. It’s all a cover. Trump is controlled by Putin, Xi & MBS.

tomgiberson.bsky.social•3 days ago

Their bribes flow from the people they don’t criticize. China, Russia, maybe a few others

muskeyb8927.bsky.social•3 days ago

They’re all scum.

ljlawyers.bsky.social•2 days ago

They’re fucking idiots … and traitors.

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