@chrislhayes.bsky.social: Sen. Schumer understands political strategy. And he is right that that type of resistance worked eight years ago. But it just seems that now is the time to break glass. It's not the time for politics as usual.
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At this point, I’m hoping there’s some secret organization dating back 250 years that’s going to save us, but just to be safe, somebody should call Tom Cruise.
I’m scared of people who aren’t worried. Who’s left to enforce court orders?
Maybe it's a culture difference but I can't find much of a consistent train of thought or reasoning. He acts like he's going to try to stay in the. I can't believe that. Tell me it ain't so
From the generous amount of time he was given to make his case, I am far from convinced. A rich, elite person may feel like there is no emergency. But to those who are losing their jobs or worried about their SS benefits or service cuts, this is a five alarm fire.Time to chuck Schumer.
What exactly do people want Schumer to do? Yell more? He's completely powerless. Being branded the shutdown party would accomplish zero and tarnish the Dems. Schumer wisely understood this.
If you break the glass & it gets in your friends eye, what do you do?
I understand the frustration & empathize. What must be clear is elections have consequences! I’m sorry to say we must suffer them. Ignoring a SCOTUS order or taking away my right to vote then we can talk about breaking glass.
The Republican senators are gonna do what they're gonna do. If they confirmed the slate of cabinet wackos, do you really think they'd compromise to keep the govt open? The only fight available now is to shame them for their cowardice and make them fear their voters more than they fear Trump.
Watching now and your argument makes sense to me, a staunch dem. But, in our 50/50 country I think the econ message is the ONLY thing that might get through to the 10% in the middle and, maybe, some GOPs. I don’t think most MAGAs understand or care about democracy vs. autocracy. They just don’t.
Too many D's in Congress seem blind to the fact that procedural, functional ways of governing have already gone out the window. It's as if they can't fathom that, in order for us to have a voice, we need to vote without foreign or domestic interference. Once that's gone, elections don't matter.
If we the people don’t wrestle our government & our country back from the edge of the drumf /muskrat disaster within the next few months, we will be toast! In 6 months, this country will be unrecognizable! And internationally, we will become persona non grata everywhere!
Chucky , give the young ones a shot at it , it's call renewal , yes they probably screw up now and then , that's call learning curve , it's gonna be stagnation for Dems just like what's happening to GOP , America is better and younger than that , be progressive , live a little
It would be great, just once, if MSNBC put the blame for where we are now where it belongs.
On GOPQ Senators. They & MSM keep lying that they fear their cult when it is Musk & Trump, being primaried & losing their $hitty govt jobs that they really fear.
The marginal Trump voter probably cares less about “democracy” than they do about kitchen-table issues. IMO, Schumer is right. And so is Carville. Sit back and let the ruling party screw up the economy and government agencies, such as Social Security. Courts are doing ok on “democracy”.
I’m not going to criticize Sen Schumer. He sees what Trump administration wants to do.
The Bill which wasn’t a true CR it was unfit to become law and the counter was the equally as terrible. If the government was shut down it could stay that way for months and Trump people could do anything.
If Dems are THIS WEAK why assume they can win any seats in Nov or mid terms. FIND A REAL LEADER FIRST TO RICK THIS REPUBLICAN BOAT. Find a real mean PIT BULL MF to replace Schumer FIRST … oh AOC? No she should take over from Jeffries!
It would have helped or even prevented Schumer's vote if the Dems had a cohesive & coordinated plan. We need both the grass roots movement and a Dems leadership plan. Yes, minority options are limited, yes, you don't want to tip your hand, but no plan is worse.
50 years ago the GOP launched their long range plan to upend the political landscape. Schumer is out of touch with that reality in believing when Trump is gone they’ll return to the GOP of old.
I agree with you. I think Schumer made the correct decision to vote for CR, BUT he should have negotiated. He read their minds-said they would not negotiate. WHY didn’t he TRY!
We need Chris Murphy et al as leader.
Trump, Musk and the others all are bullies with enlarged self inflating egos and you DO NOT GIVE THEM AN EASY WIN! This mess is only going to get a lot worse and much more painful and I’m sorry but Schumer and company blew it!
I'm asking the PRESS & Podcasters, etc., not to headline the Dems toxic party problems; concentrate on $Trump's pertinent daily failings.
Showcase WE THE PEOPLE fighting!
DOGE is doing what they want right now! I have not seen any argument from Schumer as to what specifically would worse things they would be able to do on the event of a shutdown.
Yeeeeeees. This is why the people were crying for shutting down the government. We're all stuck rolling down this hill and we can't stop until we get to the bottom. The only part of this decent we can control is the speed. The more time they have, the more likely they are to direct us over a cliff.
This is unusually timid for you, Chris. Eight years ago we didn't live in a fascist country ruled by criminals who are successfully dismantling our gov't and infraS, aided by a corrupt SCOTUS. Schumer has always been horrible as leader. Now he's complicit in the lie that it's all okay.
We are already in a “constitutional crisis”. The federal courts are not going to “save” us. Even a cursory review of world history tells us that when dictators besiege a nation, it is the people themselves who have to reclaim their freedom from tyranny. Usually, by any means necessary.
Walz already recognizes that we’re going to have to rebuild the engine of our democracy if/when we get out of this mess, but will it come to a war or a long term resistance with Gandhi-like patience and determination?? I hope the latter.
Schumer is not the person for the moment. He's waiting, waiting until the world changes to meet his capabilities, his understanding. It's likely the world won't agree. Schumer needs to go.
You don't listen! Chuck Schumer explained EVERYTHING. OBVIOUSLY devastation for democracy & hundreds of thousands of Americans, but you argue for opposing Republicans at ALL costs. Easy to say when it won't cost YOU anything you can't easily regain. I hate Trump but you're too fanatical.
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If Gov’t shutdown occurred, Dems wouldn’t be able to fight in Fed. court, so DT & Elon would be able to continue dismantling Fed agencies w/out any resistance.
GOP was BEGGING for a shutdown (DT is Messiah prophesied by Norquist, here to drown Gov’t in the bathtub).
Schumer, the only people following the rules are democrats.
This is a Project 2025 pre planned surgical war on democracy in God’s name by entitled men who want the good ole days of 1776, when they had zero accountability in their treatment of women, slaves and indigenous populations.
In first aid I was taught Stop and Fix It. If the patient isn't breathing you have to stop and fix that, the heart isn't beating you have to fix it, the president is breaking the law you have to fix it, if ICE is snatching people and shipping them to El Salvador or New Orleans you have to fix it.
I would like to hear more than euphemisms from lots of people. What does it mean in your opinion to “break glass.” What does it mean to Schumer to “fight.” We want to hear some specific steps.
You may not have watched the whole show, or might not have seen the Schumer interview from last week, but he means Schumer’s vote for cloture on the funding bill.
I agree. It would have helped or even prevented Schumer's vote if the Dems had a cohesive & coordinated plan. We need both the grass roots movement and a Dems leadership plan. Yes, minority options are limited, yes, you don't want to tip your hand, but no plan is worse.
still can't get an answer from anyone as to why if Schumer is right about his fears of a shutdown being worse, why was he all in on a shut down the day before?
And yes folks, I’m also an Ashkenazi Jew from New York City. How else do you think I came up with this? 😊
For those not in the know, the word Ashkenazi has no relation to the word nazi. It’s one of those cruel ironies in our universe. Anyway, just google it
We have every right to demand better opposition than what our alleged "Leaders" are doing. The feckless DC Dems are HURTING THE PARTY and are allowing Trump/GOPs to cripple this country.
The bad, failed leadership is the real thing that we can fix today to better fight Trump tomorrow.
I am all for fighting for our freedom and standing up to the billionaires that runs the government now. But it seems the poorest of our country would suffer most under a Shut down. I know we are suffering now. But a shut down would hurt people in this country. Regular everyday people.
Exactly..this is not 8 yrs ago. Then tRump had guardrails..I.e "adults in the room" stopping or hindering his worst ideas! NOW he has crazies advising him. They thought of every possible wrench to throw into spokes of the gov't. This time requires "in case of emergency BREAK GLASS" strategy!!!
Well these are more things the American people never have to think about again. If the records are destroyed, then obviously it never happened.Is your blood close to boiling point yet Senator Schumer?
Call Democrat senators and tell them to remove Senator Schumer as Senate Minority. We need a strong and energetic Senator to rally the party
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@chrislhayes.bsky.social all due respect, did it work though? Does he understand strategy? GOP has been in war mode for 30 years, locked in message discipline, permanent election apparatus, Heritage, Federalist, FoxNews...we had the freaking 2025 playbook...and Dems show up like mewling kittens.
so Chris, no, Dems have been, are and likely will be out of touch unless we jettison the leaders who brought us here. Walz, Murhpy, they understand. Lets talk with those actually paving a way rather than waiting on the bus.
Literally the opposite of a frog being slowly boiled to death. Democrats' "fight or sip a cup of filtered water" response to fast developing sutuations.
It did NOT work 8 years ago. If it had worked, then Trump would not currently be President. Schumer has been failing from the time Trump announced his candidacy til now. If he had been succeeding, then we’d not have a senate minority and a fascist president.
Correct! America has already had more than enough of the Felon president, his fascist dogebags, and Nazis racists ruthlessly and lawlessly destroying America!!
💯 decorum doesn’t work in this 5 alarm moment. Imminent threat requires immediate and swift action not business as usual. Fire Schumer and any dem who do not act with urgency!!
Schumer doesn't know how to do anything other than business as usual. He's probably a good lawmaker and has done some good, but he's not the one to lead us through this moment. He's not a fighter and is too entrenched in the old school ways of doing things to meet this moment. Dems need to step up.
It sure seems like Sen. Schumer is still fighting using Queensbury Rules while the Republicans (since President Obama's SCOTUS nominee) are street fighting, no-holds-barred. It doesn't seem like Sen. Schumer has evolved his tactics and strategies to engage today's Republican party.
I totally agree with you Chris. In my view, it is time for Sen. Schumer to pass the Senate leadership baton (like Nancy Pelosi admirably did) to a more capable Senator who is able to fight these Senate battles and politics with modern media tools against "no rules, break norms" Republicans.
There are a lot of media people, that interview knowledgeable people..would someone be able to talk about, with concrete steps, about what CAN be done? A lot of my anxiety stems from the scary news that lacks solutions?
The type of resistance Schumer is talking about wasn't even working 8 years ago - not 10 or 20 years ago. For decades now, Dem leaders have been bringing a wooden knife to a gun knife. All Schumer has been successful in is losing the Senate majority. He's out of his depth. Retire now.
How much is the "we'll maybe send everybody $5K because of the money we're saving by destroying the US gov't" talking point keeping people who might otherwise be quite upset w/ the way things are quiescent? ("Give away the rights of females for the price of eggs decreasing" worked well last Nov...)
I support Chuck Schumer; Democrats always tend to jump on a bandwagon without thinking things through and orange felon47 is not one you can trust with a shutdown!
I don't think he does.
1) people that never voted and raised under trump made a difference
2) those kids saw the impact of vote and voted for Biden
3) same people noticed Dems gave a lot to Republicans when norms had been broken
Maybe once he finishes his antisemitism book tour, he’ll have time to ponder the fate of THIS republic. Right now, he’s very concerned about Israelis’ feelings.
As if 8 years ago was even remotely like what is happening now. Elon is sending Doge in with weapons and shutting down the govt. What is he even talking about? Schumer needs to go now.
Regarding the most pressing race facing Democrats in the immediate future, several times your network coverage has featured the race in Wisconsin. There are 2 races in Florida with the same election day that are never mentioned.
Time for a new strategy and tactics. Republicans are now run by Project25 members who are mostly <50. The Boomer games are well studied. If we are to make progress we have to surprise them, be creative, and write a new playbook.
The Dems are bringing sticks to gun fights. No message, no strategy. We need younger ppl not afraid to go toe to toe with these crooked lying Republicans.
Viewers of your show want to know how Dems can “break glass” since they have absolutely no support from GOP majority. At this time many ppl agree with Sen Schumer’s explanation (If anyone knows a better plan they should tell him) Meanwhile political reporters should support & join the protesters!
Democrats spent the last election cycle talking about how Trump is an existential threat to democracy. They were right (obviously). It would be nice their response matched their rhetoric
Eight years a go Trump was just an infant when it came to breaking the government. Now he is grownup man child that is better at breaking things. If not stopped quickly it will be to late.
Playing by established rules, when you are up against a group that has no respect for rules and their end game is to destroy their adversary, will get you hurt. MAGA has no decency, no integrity, and no morals. They want the power to destroy lives with no consequences. Take the fight to their door
It that strategy worked so well, how come we have fucking Trump back in power even after the shit show of January 6? No! The strategy didn’t work. Time to focus on the needs of the people and reinvent the Democratic Party. Out with the old.
As hard as Trump and his henchmen are working to burn down our democracy, there should be those meeting, planning, not only how to fight the Trump regime but how to restore democracy. How quickly can you fill the vacuum of possibly having to use force to remove the Trump regime?
Chris you should cover the town hall that Tim Walz did for the Republicans in Iowa. Talk about fantastic clarifying and substantive. They were asking vital questions. He was answering everything and then some. It was wonderful. He should do more. You should check this out.
In the do-over with Chris Hayes, Schumer _may_ have buried the lead again on this reasoning?
Based on previous court rulings, executive branch would have had _legal_ authority in a shutdown to do anything forever, but now those legal bounds are preserved?
Watching now….Yes, now is the time to break glass, at least to get the fire extinguisher out & working. We can’t wait until our house is burned to the ground.
Great segment, Chris. I would contest that "it worked" in 2017. The congressional Dems were largely ineffectual through Trump's first term, with a few exceptions, and misattributing the electoral successes, they carried their flawed model into the Biden admin, which is why we are here now.
Schumer is living in the past and "being the leader." The warning signs were there before Trump took office; a constitutional crisis was pending.
It became a crisis when Trump handed the keys to everything to Musk-PERIOD. It is being compounded with the dismantling & destruction of America Daily.
Agree. Chuck Schumer’s leadership time has passed. As a boomer he will also not step down on his own! If the Senate Dems have any sense of urgency of staying relevant, they will replace him immediately. If not, they might as well get used to being even more unpopular than they already are.
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I’m scared of people who aren’t worried. Who’s left to enforce court orders?
I understand the frustration & empathize. What must be clear is elections have consequences! I’m sorry to say we must suffer them. Ignoring a SCOTUS order or taking away my right to vote then we can talk about breaking glass.
They need to vote Schumer out of leadership if they are serious in protecting democracy.
He voted to cut SS, Medicaid & Medicare.
He went on the view to say Republican talking points.
Strategies of 2017 are NOT going to work against Project 2025.
On GOPQ Senators. They & MSM keep lying that they fear their cult when it is Musk & Trump, being primaried & losing their $hitty govt jobs that they really fear.
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The Bill which wasn’t a true CR it was unfit to become law and the counter was the equally as terrible. If the government was shut down it could stay that way for months and Trump people could do anything.
Which is worse Both are unbelievably atrocious. Let’s fight Trump and MUSK and not each other!
He should resign as minority leader.
He is not practicing anything that approaches political strategy.
We need Chris Murphy et al as leader.
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Lay off, please, Chris Hayes
As of today they’ve only bent the knee over and over and over.
Showcase WE THE PEOPLE fighting!
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But until them the Vichy dems need to be driven out.
Schumer missed the moment. It is time for new leadership!
If they don't get a handle on this, it could turn into the constitutional break glass time.
If a shutdown occurred, Chuck knows judicial branch courts would also close, & we wouldn’t have seen eg CJ Roberts tell DT to chill his jets.
Dems are smart to bid their time, until public feels the pain.
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1.Schumer did not make this argument. He kept saying it would be worse, but never explained why.
2. The administration is ignoring court orders.
3. A vast majority of Dems voted against it. That is not leadership.
U don’t seriously think DOGE stops working because of a Govt shut-down, as if Big Balls gets a Federal paycheck?
Dude, he’s on a special assignment paid for by THE RICHEST PERSON IN THE WORLD.
DT has authority to decide which services are “essential” during shutdowns:
DOGE is doing what they want right now! I have not seen any argument from Schumer as to what specifically would worse things they would be able to do on the event of a shutdown.
They are ignoring laws/court orders as is.
That’s EXACTLY what DT & Elon want: empty buildings so they can dismantle agencies, with no courts to stop them.
You don’t realize DT doesn’t GAF about public opinion?
He’s trying to become KING.
If the government shut down, the Repubs would be back first thing Monday begging you for a deal!
McConnell was SMART ENOUGH to do this to the Dems!!!
doge is an act of war.
https://thebulletin.org/2025/03/for-this-french-senator-trump-is-a-traitor-and-europe-is-now-alone/
and to everyone who doesn't correctly perceive this moment and what is required
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If Gov’t shutdown occurred, Dems wouldn’t be able to fight in Fed. court, so DT & Elon would be able to continue dismantling Fed agencies w/out any resistance.
GOP was BEGGING for a shutdown (DT is Messiah prophesied by Norquist, here to drown Gov’t in the bathtub).
But the time for logic is well past!!!
This is a new, illogical era we live in.
This is a Project 2025 pre planned surgical war on democracy in God’s name by entitled men who want the good ole days of 1776, when they had zero accountability in their treatment of women, slaves and indigenous populations.
Chuck “The Schmuck” Schumer
[I know, it’s very Trumpy but it does seem to capture the current zeitgeist among Dems too]
For those not in the know, the word Ashkenazi has no relation to the word nazi. It’s one of those cruel ironies in our universe. Anyway, just google it
Leadership matters, but so does unity, morality, and conviction.
Schumer has lost the confidence of the electorate he represents.
But don't waste your energy blaming
them for all this Chaos and Shit!
Blame Trump and the Republicans
It's their Shit Show!
The bad, failed leadership is the real thing that we can fix today to better fight Trump tomorrow.
say that Schumer betrayed us all. He needs to resign yesterda
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ALL HANDS ON DECK! This is not a ‘wait & see’ situation. It’s time. We are ready. Schumer -> DO SOMETHING!
I stood up in the moment.
As a person with stage 4 cancer.
I stood up in the moment.
Why did @schumer.senate.gov not stand up ?
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We are at Defcon 4. Honestly, I hold no hope that the next election, no matter what state they are held in, will be non Musk-manipulated.
We need Leaders, living in reality.
1) people that never voted and raised under trump made a difference
2) those kids saw the impact of vote and voted for Biden
3) same people noticed Dems gave a lot to Republicans when norms had been broken
5) now they want to see the same fight Republicans did
His time has passed. We need someone who’s main ethos is not “we need a strong Republican Party”
He’s caused so much damage needs to go.
Baffling you don’t recognize that. Stop supporting the useless quisling
It’s as stupid & vapid as “Make America Great Again”, and Dems think they’re the smart kids when they shout “dO sOmEtHiNg!” like Chicken Lil. 🙄
I’m sick of Dems eating their own (as they did w/ AG Garland, as if they don’t realize prosecutors don’t over-rules judges).
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In the do-over with Chris Hayes, Schumer _may_ have buried the lead again on this reasoning?
Based on previous court rulings, executive branch would have had _legal_ authority in a shutdown to do anything forever, but now those legal bounds are preserved?
Do I have that right?
That resistance didn’t even work 8 years ago.
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@schumer.senate.gov he did/is NOT reading the room AT ALL!
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#schumer must resign
I love your take on this segments, your take resonates w/90% of the people I engage.
We must act before is too late.
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It became a crisis when Trump handed the keys to everything to Musk-PERIOD. It is being compounded with the dismantling & destruction of America Daily.