Both have support models via premium users, which gives you some extra flexibility and more space for the site! Neocities is about 5$ a month, I'm not sure how much nekowebs is.
Well, there *is* BlueSky… It appears very good right now.
Is there such a thing as users as stockholders? Meaning, could users pay an amount to use this service, but become shareholders in the company by doing so? Collective ownership? Is this a thing? Can it be? @bsky.app
Absolutely, but in the grand world stage this original statement rings true. The world is so crazy that it's integral you form local communities that can protect eachother
Good idea, leave that to multi national companies that want every living being to be their slave or dead. Surely handing the keys to mass communication to oligarchs will have no consequences.
I'd agree in a vacuum, but unfortunately the world's nuts rn
Smaller forums would need to *exist* in order to be visitable. Unfortunately most websites have shifted away from having public forums to using fucking Discord servers.
It’s called Capitalism. It’s really crazy. It works like this: profits first, then whatever else. But how about human rights? Dignity? Wealth distribution?Yeah, yeah, but profits first.
Part of it is the monopolistic characteristics of these business models(costumer retention and barriers of entry, anti-competitive behaviour) and the other part is geopolitics, these companies are tools of american influence, breaking them up may open the market for others(specially the chinese)
Zuckerberg explictly defended his monopoly in these geopolitical terms in his senate hearing. Furthermore, it really is the logical conclusion of a completely deregulated market and a political system that is primed for oligarchical influence.
Because the platforms initially were a great idea and promoted community in a way never done before. It all went to crap when they decided to monetize the hell out of everything.
"Allowed" is a poor choice of words. We're an utterly disenfranchised constituency. We have no say in matters like this. Money has the say. And money says "kill net neutrality, it's bad for business," so the politicians did.
We still have our old forum at WetCanvas for artists. At one point it was the largest art site on the internet. A lot left for modern social sites. It’s a dinosaur but we still use it and it’s not run by millionaires.
But at least they were awful because they were made by rank amateurs with a copy of HTML for Dummies and a dream and not because their business model was predicated on hoovering up user data for sale to brokers and/or creating an AI god & heaven.
Initially Facebook felt like a place the whole world could get together. Now social media is devolving into multiple different tribes on different platforms, driving further division and hatred
There’s Dreamwidth as a newer version of livejournal which is not owned by the Russian mob if you want to go back to the very old fashioned way of journalling (which I recommend as a way to get to know fewer people but so much better and closer).
honestly the internet is filled with so much hatred nowadays, i'm happy to just being here. i don't feel like offing myself after a day here from the negativity.
Yup. I think we’ll always have spaces like this that feel like a refuge but I worry the major social media sites will essentially turn into cable news where there’s a spin on everything you see depending on who’s running it. I think Twitter to X was the tipping point.
it's honestly so scary how x has become just a fascist, racist, homophobic & sexist platform. all the "closested" bitchs came out of the closet when they saw: wow look at these famous ppl being unhinged and getting no consequences, i should try it to. disgusting. now w meta too - fkn scary and gross
Or by communities. I really appreciate and love open source community based projects and platforms more and more. That's how the Internet should be imo and we should just stop using company owned platforms and done
SEO is partly responsible for that, but things that get less traffic will get burried under those that do, and those that do aren't always relevant or even on theme.
But still, there are more search engines, and many of them are exclusive, meaning, they only search pages of a certain type.
We're a small web community! We used to be a lot bigger but most people shifted to centralized platforms. Still hanging in there and fighting to survive though!
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https://neocities.org/
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https://nekoweb.org/
There's a handful of other projects like this around, I might make it my next thread
Is there such a thing as users as stockholders? Meaning, could users pay an amount to use this service, but become shareholders in the company by doing so? Collective ownership? Is this a thing? Can it be? @bsky.app
I'd agree in a vacuum, but unfortunately the world's nuts rn
* Technically still around, but owned by the Russian mob
** The original federated social media system
There is tons and tons of content on the web that isn't owned by billionaires but by people who care about what they do.
But still, there are more search engines, and many of them are exclusive, meaning, they only search pages of a certain type.
CEOs should not be frontpage news all the god damn time. The day the CEO makes it all about him is the day I stop interacting with that company.