Yeah, the Brewster's should be prosecuted for fraud. Better yet, just locked up. Just don't send them our way, transportation has ended. We only just tolerate your men's cricket team. The ladies can stay if they like. 😁
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So with the best will in the world, these marvellous global opportunities generate 0.6% benefit against a 4% disbenefit, giving the UK a net drag of 3.4%. Sunlit uplands. PS, Farage won't publish his tax returns either.
People have to accept that Brexit has to be paid for. We have the highest taxes since WW2, increasing national debt and crumbling public services. The Labour Party have now totally owned Brexit. Why?
Yep, £500 later (and several years with the research and gathering of documents made at little Irish churches a century ago) I got mine too. Got a travel card as well, which confused Jet2 staff this summer! 😁
Burgundy was and still is the recommended color of EU passports; countries are allowed to choose something else. Leaving the EU for blue passports was silly.
And yet the BBC under Tim Davie continues to platform Brexit liars. Even now in the face of the mountain of evidence that Brexit is a complete failure and has been catastrophic for the UK economy.
"The first thing to understand about Brexit is that it is defined by lying. It was itself a lie, .. as a concept. It was sold through lies.. delivered through lies..has now served to place the notion of lies right in the heart of politics. It is the thing that cannot be named.., the omerta."
This just reminded me, I've not had a death threat in a while. Having "Bollocks to Brexit" stickers and an EU flag I nearly had daily threats. They've all gone quiet! I miss them :(
I still pepper my dog walk route with B2B stickers. Used to get satisfaction from seeing them angrily scratched off, knowing it took them ages but took me a second to place them.
If you're from Manchester, are you aware of Manchester for Europe? Worth a join on Facebook and have often got involved in anti-brexit stuff and some anti-fash stuff too.
Brexit is a self inflicted wound, which just won't heal. A bucket once full of hope, is now a leaking bucket full of holes. Britain needs to banish the grifters and liars who sold the snakeoil, be thankful to our European friends, and accept the good Donald's gracious offer to #Breturn
We hope everyday for a government committed to undoing this terrible self destructive event. The great lie sold by those with the most to gain. Can it start happening soon please?
Deal with it by making in roads into undoing it 🤔 Of course we can’t go back and eradicate it from history but at least be vocal about what a disaster it has been? Be vocal about the lies that some were sold? Nail your colours to the mast.
I cannot see any reason that the current government with its massive majority shouldn't hold another referendum on rejoining the single market and reinstate freedom of movement. Lots of brexit voters are no longer with us and the RW press no longer have the reach they had. Do this 1st,then rejoin.
Of course it won't happen as the current government are rather spineless and now totally in with big money. Labour membership decreased under Starmer, donations increased. They will go with the pay masters.
Also I don't know if I have the energy anymore, I was arrested at both the big anti-brexit rally's, I had daily death threats/doxxing etc and even had the Conservative Party drag me through court and try to jail me. I'm too old for this shit
I hear you- but we have 3 children, hopefully another 40+ years left on this planet and I’ve never heard of one single benefit, know nobody we have faith in who supports Brexit. This government has to take a stand and call it out. Decisions for the country, not just decisions for a 2nd term.
Disagree. An under no illusion that we have any strength in the matter now, having publicly soiled ourselves within Europe. But words matter and being honest about the lies told, why we reached the point and a commitment to reverse the illegitimacy of a referendum sold on lies, would be a start.
Start by reforming the electoral system so a parliament more fairly represented public opinion.
Then imagine if EU right wing parties implemented a hard external EU border plus essentially socialist but populist policies. #Farage does a flip in favour of rejoining a reformed EU.
And yet Nigel Farage is riding high in the polls and the media. It's like if a guy sold you a used car that exploded on the way home, and you immediately went back to buy another one.
One of the saddest days of my life, I'm just as angry about the stupidity of it as I was on the 24 June 2016. I'm even angrier that the champions of Brexit have never been held to account and still pollute our airways spouting unchallenged bollocks.
And Johnson, he was the one who for some reason appealed to Leave voters. Had he campaigned for Remain I doubt Leave would have won. He could have been a hero but his ego got in his way.
I’ve long since forgotten that sack of rancid custard. His seemingly appealing combination of lies and bluster and chrome-plated confidence make me despair for the electorate ever being able to do politics beyond personality contests.
The way the media followed him one would have imagined he was some sort of magical thought leader instead of a melancholy ridden post imperialist who believed that England’s sovrinty was special and indivisible. The “where are they now?” pages are littered with them and yet none are held accountable
Ah #Labour has a #growth agenda, a #brexit denial agenda, but no money, no green solutions so on with #austerity, attack the tiny problem of #scroungers but mostly ignore the vast sums syphoned off through #taxavoidence #taxevasion and #moneylaundering all of which is very profitable in the City.
I don’t believe it was ever about free trading with the rest of the world. It was about freeing membership money that could be pilfered to potential company Tory donors!
The farce is the continuing failure of @teamlabouruk.bsky.social government to acknowledge the magnitude of the problem who think that the solution is to build another runway at Heathrow, subsidise a premier league football team owned by billionaires, and destroy the environment.
But the sovereignity? The sovereignty? Won’t somebody think of the sovereignity? That precious thing we’ve now got that can’t be actually measured or change a didly squat
Listening to @mrjamesob.bsky.social today and old conversations of why people voted for Brexit. So many horrible racists who started their conversation with "I'm not racist but..." Horrible.
It is important to remember that this was not just about money. It was about self determination. It was about having laws voted on by the people.
The American Revolutionary War inflicted great financial costs on all of the combatants, including the United States, France, Spain and Great Britain.
Personally, it wouldn’t bother me as I think old fashioned notions of sovereignty are outdated in an interconnected and globalised world. I’d rather be at the table influencing and shaping what’s happening rather than complaining about what others have done to us
Fact: we were always stronger together. Letting others interfere with that unity - regardless of our issues - was and will always be the biggest challenge before us.
We don't need to be. It's not 1973 anymore. Or 1992. EU and UK are both evolving and so we need to be thinking about how we join the team in a way that is future-focused and gives us (and by "us" I mean both UK and rest of Europe) maximum advantage for our values, economy & people in 21st century.
The argument that "We should rejoin the EU, as long as it's under exactly the same conditions we used to have" isn't an argument that anyone on the rejoin side ever makes. I'm not sure why so many people try to argue against it as though it undermines the whole justification for rejoining.
I have made this point repeatedly for the last 8 years. The EU we will rejoin will be very different to the EU in 2016. Given that it's very unlikely that we can fully rejoin before 2035 we need to focus on that potential future state.
It took 5 years to have the hypothetical possibility of offsetting 10% of the damage if we're lucky? Okay, these round trips around the world for trade deals need to stop now. Time to be practical and talk to the neighbours.
Not sure how all those plusses, however small, add up to a minus by BBC stats? Assuming there's an element we're not seeing, as mathematically, it can't be right, for obvious reasons.
Sweet Baby Gingerbread Jesus! Please don't even mention Brexit cos the frustration of having no-one I can legally 𝙆𝙞𝙘𝙠 over being dragged into that self-harming Shamfuckery could gimme an ulcer! 🤬
Well those who pushed for Brexit made a lot of money. Now Brits are treated like 2nd class citizens when they travel to the EU. They will have to pay 100% taxes if they buy a holiday home in Spain, the country is a mess thanks to the Tories (and Labor isn't helping) but hey we are masters of Britain
"Now Brits are treated like second class citizens when they travel to the EU."
Well, I mean, yeah, when Brits are no longer EU/Schengen citizens, they're treated as non-EU travelers. This should've caught absolutely no one by surprise.
Unfortunate, but ultimately a self-caused problem.
I was thinking the same thing.. Brits aren't treated as second class citizens of countries they're not citizens of. They're treated as tourists, because that's what they are.
Canadians are not treated as second class citizens, when the go to France, or even the US. They are treated as visitors.
I'm glad you have that opinion. Some of the Brits I know personally and others I have talked to meeting them in the EU say they feel that way. They all think that Breturn needs to start now.
I know some Brits who figured they could go down to their Winter place in Spain as before and then stay for 6 months and go back home. Or they could work at the local pub. Then comes the FAFO moment when they realize they screwed themselves.
Maybe you think 'it will take decades' or 'they won't want us back' or 'petitions don't work', but if you believe deep down that our future lies within our closest trading block why not sign this anyway! You never know. If you don't ask you don't get. http://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/700005
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The CONspiracy of silence and denial is evidence of fascism.
Were we expecting gas chambers when the fascists came again?
Yes I am a broken record. But at least not a fascist one.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/you-think-brexit-been-success-34582474?int_source=nba
But fear not! I’m here to help. Let’s sift through your greatest hits of Brexit delusion with the same care you apply to ignoring reality. But fear not! I’m here to help. Let’s sift through your greatest hits of Brexit delusion.
https://aiwillybillhuman.substack.com/p/brexit-wasnt-a-failure-it-liberated
So it’s all swings and roundabouts really.
* Except mine, because I got an Irish one ASAP.
Not been scratched off for a while...
They would always be pulled down or scratched off, meanwhile the thousand non-political or outright marketing ones would remain
"university of life" "school of hard knocks" comes a close second
Then imagine if EU right wing parties implemented a hard external EU border plus essentially socialist but populist policies. #Farage does a flip in favour of rejoining a reformed EU.
There's an idea 😀
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There are no words.
The American Revolutionary War inflicted great financial costs on all of the combatants, including the United States, France, Spain and Great Britain.
Join the movement to reverse it.
We’ve already had 1,300 new people join this month:
They would welcome the UK back but it would have to be with guarantees and mainly on their terms.
The Euro and Schengen would be non negotiable for a start. I wouldn’t have a problem but I can see many would
Personally, it wouldn’t bother me as I think old fashioned notions of sovereignty are outdated in an interconnected and globalised world. I’d rather be at the table influencing and shaping what’s happening rather than complaining about what others have done to us
Fact: we were always stronger together. Letting others interfere with that unity - regardless of our issues - was and will always be the biggest challenge before us.
Come back, UK, we miss you! ❤️
Now is the time to rejoin.
pre 2016
"we are hapless supplicants with little / no influence on EU affairs"
post 2021
"the EU isn't the one we left, without our influence it has [insert some change we don't like]"
Pan Europe Defence Initiative
European Youth Scholarship Scheme
Continental Market Area
EuroArea Finance Zone
etc
Do it bit-by-bit, call it new things, move forward in a new and constructive way
PROJECT 2025
will do to the USA!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdrynjz1glpo
Sorry/not sorry an island 12,000 kms away selling product almost exclusively to their neighbours doesn’t factor in that
What is the effect on brexit of Oceania, excluding NZ and Australia
I’m really interested to see a knowledgable, non-garbage treatise on how much effective they have had
Well, I mean, yeah, when Brits are no longer EU/Schengen citizens, they're treated as non-EU travelers. This should've caught absolutely no one by surprise.
Unfortunate, but ultimately a self-caused problem.
Canadians are not treated as second class citizens, when the go to France, or even the US. They are treated as visitors.