How ironic, since it's the US that treated Russia with hostility after WWII, and pushed for the nuclear armament race. This was based on having different political ideologies, never the less, there no prior hostility.
It’s hard trying to explain historical events from an objective pov when talking with USAmerikkkans who were weaned on red bait. They really believe what capitalism has told them. Sorry, mate
Link of things I studied? Look into documentaries that shows the dynamic right after WWII. Especially on the relationship between those that fought the Nazis. It fell apart pretty quick.
One reason that this is a great plan is because there's no provision for american theft. Ukraine keeps what is rightfully snd legally hers. Also ruzzian should never be recognised as an official language #NAFO
Unfortunately, as an American, that is a good point. European countries need to hurry up and create a massive buildup of military capabilities. I’m afraid that our government leaders are not trustworthy, while the majority of the population are still supporting Ukrainian independence.
So is this nothing more than a move to increase the profits for American defense contractors w/out us going to war? Who does Europe buy military arms/equipment from? Am I off base here?
Europe has very effective military contractors and weapons experts. They haven’t dedicated the massive amounts of money to them like the U.S. but they need to start doing so because Putin is not stopping at Ukraine
I'd be fine with The Hague, but I'd give Ukraine full discretion over whatever trial and punishment they decide. They can drag the punishment out for years if they want.
Only if get Crimea back,becomes part of Nato guarantee in 2yrs during which time NATO forces are stationed in Ukraine,bc if NATO forces are attacked in Ukraine,then its all or nothing,Nato+Ukraine War w/Russia, a nonNegotiable & unconditional Russia Surrender.
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Would suggest extradition of the war criminal Lavrov should a term too.
As a security guarantee Ukraine should give Europe access to buy all REEs and natural resources at a fixed price 10% above spot price to make sure Ukraine is rebuild as an apology for 2014 loss of Crimea
I feel for Ukraine, they are not the aggressor in this war, but yet they have to make concessions. All they want is peace for their country. All of it.
No Russian state must cease to exist. It is a colonial empire, similar to the Great British Empire. The British Empire broke apart and Russia should as well. Only then the oppressed nations within Russia can regain their independence.
Yeah well empire is all the rage these days, kind of hard to imagine we can make Russia stop when the US really wants to do more of it than ever. If we can't keep our own leaders from spouting off imperial pipe dreams not much hope of stopping Russia's.
America isn’t there to negotiate a peace deal, they’re there to normalise relations with Russia so they can get gas and minerals in exchange for US weapons. The Russians have already let that slip.
Any negotiation of peace must begin with peace and Russia being removed from Ukrainian territory, so the destruction can be assessed to a degree of clarity prior to reparations being calculated.
An old saying goes, "If you're not at the table, you're on the menu". Putin invaded 🇺🇦 for its mineral deposits. 🇺🇸 has offered to defend 🇺🇦 in return for 50% of those deposits not now controlled by 🇷🇺. It's not peace, it's a carve-up. For once #KierStarmer is doing the right thing. #Ukraine #peace
It’s BS. Ukraine should get the demilitarized zone. Putin can’t be trusted. Trump can’t be trusted. I’m not an international studies major. This just my opinion. Putin is asking for more than this, we all know it.
Wait is Königsberg liberated in this deal?
Also, what if Belarus wants to join NATO after Vladolf Putler & Potato Führer die?
We may as well fix everything all at once 😂
How many Ukrainian hostages is Russia holding? Why aren't they given the same publicity the Israeli hostages have been afforded?
Same as Palestinian hostages.
Please note: according to the Geneva Convention it is a war crime to bring minors into the country of the aggressor EVEN if you think it’s beneficial to them.
Maybe a detail left out to make the Russian invasion seem just a little less impossible to defeat. Putin is great at using kids as a shield... if we don't know how many he has, we don't think they're EVERYWHERE. Getting them back is one thing, what happened to them in captivity? Nightmare stuff.
ruSSia literally used the Nazi Lebensborn playbook by giving them to russian families (even if they still had ukrainian relatives) to russify and reeducate them into docile putler supporters and future cannon fodder. Not kidding no exaggeration.
It’s exactly what the Nazis did in ww2
No. Poland has already large parts of German East Prussia annexed. 12 million German civilians were forcefully displaced, thousands died. You probably don't know that, there's no 'Schindler's List' movie about it.
I know that and know millions of German women were raped but it was justified in cleansing the disease of Prussian militarism which had destroyed Europe multiple times since the Danish Prussian war over Schleswig Holstein
Watch and be amazed at how quickly the world changes when Putin is no longer allowed to speak for nations (russia or usa). meanwhile people forced to serve as soldiers are paying for something that was ordered by a most unworthy parasite. people live in peace, dictatorship never satisfied
I want to agree. But as long as Putin exists-- and whatever endless chain of oligarchs hold power after him-- the Russian government will keep trying to be imperialists and attempting to reunite the U.S.S.R. under Russia.
It won't, but he'll keep sacrificing citizens in an attempt, and I think the long chain of lunatics ready to control Russia when each of them dies or is killed will be just as hell-bent on military imperialiasm.
I've got a better one. Get rid of Putin, Trump and the rest of the World's Demigods once and for all. Eliminate all borders and become Earthlings. Every single Border is only an Artificial line on a Map which has been altered more often than I've eaten eggs
Ukraine’s membership in NATO… is unacceptable for us. This creates serious threats to our security and will lead to catastrophic consequences for all of Europe,” Maria Zakharova said at a news conference.
Basically what Russia is saying, we intend to invaded Ukraine again in the future, shit putin
Apart from that Russia will need to leave all military safety contracts with other nations and surrender all military personnel and political leaders which has been accused for war crimes for independent trials in Den Hague.
Russia also needs to pay war reparations for all harm caused.
With a FULL withdrawal from all impacted/invaded regions (Georgia, Moldova) as well as provisions to prevent militarizing belligerents like Belarus…
Humm…
Automatic Sanctions if any military violation in the DMZ occurs…
I fear this one can only come through Military Victory
Now we know what we must
Well, joking aside, this is exactly what will be required for sustainable peace. I suspect half of the russian cities (and infrastructure) will need to be on fire for the ORCs to understand this requirement, but I'm willing to live with that.
Americans are so naive they think that Putin will keep that...of course he wont he is an lying sack of shit who will just invade another day..Ukraine is a rich in resources country there is no way that he or Trump will give up on having Ukraine!
I wish that were true but that is delusional, friend. Trump is betraying you right now! He and Putin are stitching up Zelenskyy and the Ukraine is not even present at these "negotiations." Prepare for permanent loss of territory but at least the killing will stop and Ukraine can rebuild.
This seems entirely reasonable. Conquest is not rewarded, there is a buffer which hinders future aggression from the only state who's committing the crime of aggression, and the rule of law in the international realm is strengthened. I support this 💯%.
The little men!" they are nothing but a thieves, liars and manipulaors. They aren't good, kind, decent, helpful humans.. They make themselves the scum of the universe.
The Ukraine issue is, and always has been, a choke point for the WORLD. If Europe stands behind Ukraine it will weaken putin. Weakening putin will also weaken trump and other countries thoughts of illegal expansion (China/Taiwan). Slava Ukraini!
We agree to deal.
Russia removes all military personnel & equipment immediately.
If not begin bombardment of zones along DMZ.
Ukraine bombing ongoing.
Air strikes authorization granted along DMZ.
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If not NO ONE has the right to make decisions about Ukraine
pic on the left is from Reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/tjournal_refugees/comments/11sh7xo/pmc_wanker_group/
The right one is from wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Wagner_Group_(2014%E2%80%932023).svg
Hostility always begets hostility.
Capitalism is a failed system over time. It is just better than anything else in operation currently.
Link to unbiased source validating it, please?👍
https://phillipspobrien.substack.com/p/trump-and-putin-aligning-over-ukrainian?utm_medium=ios
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Would suggest extradition of the war criminal Lavrov should a term too.
As a security guarantee Ukraine should give Europe access to buy all REEs and natural resources at a fixed price 10% above spot price to make sure Ukraine is rebuild as an apology for 2014 loss of Crimea
But good dreams!
Like 3x.
Americans have a vastly over inflated sense of their place in the world. Puffery and old stories are not leadership.
All day long
THIS
🇺🇦 🇵🇸… and First Nations…. And thank you 🇪🇺, 🇨🇦 and 🇲🇽 for supporting our fight against fascism ☮️
But I suspect Russia’s ambitions and Trump’s greed may prove to be obstructive.
Russia get out of Ukraine
Russia needs to leave ALL Ukraine including Crimea
Also, what if Belarus wants to join NATO after Vladolf Putler & Potato Führer die?
We may as well fix everything all at once 😂
We should leave one gap in the DMZ to be selected by Poland as the Ultimate choke point for the annihilation of invaders.
We know they use Belarus to invade!
🇺🇸🇱🇻
DePopulated Zone
Same as Palestinian hostages.
That's grotesque.
Why did I never heard of that?
Please note: according to the Geneva Convention it is a war crime to bring minors into the country of the aggressor EVEN if you think it’s beneficial to them.
Abuse and violence is rife to prevent them from speaking Ukrainian instead of russian or expressing being Ukrainian.
They also found torture chambers in previously occupied areas with chairs for children.
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2024/12/05/detained-deported-and-brainwashed-how-moscow-russifies-ukrainian-children
It’s exactly what the Nazis did in ww2
It's held the gains it made in October, and now occupiers around 20% of Ukraine's land
So yeah, it is slowly gaining ground
Slava Ukraini! 💪
Destroy Russia is the only that works
Basically what Russia is saying, we intend to invaded Ukraine again in the future, shit putin
Make it happen.
Russia also needs to pay war reparations for all harm caused.
Humm…
Automatic Sanctions if any military violation in the DMZ occurs…
I fear this one can only come through Military Victory
Now we know what we must
Expansion is not negotiable. Take it as payment for the war in Ukraine.
Nobody else sees it?
Maybe that’s why I failed the Rorshach test
Russia removes all military personnel & equipment immediately.
If not begin bombardment of zones along DMZ.
Ukraine bombing ongoing.
Air strikes authorization granted along DMZ.