I try not to be alarmist, but as a Jewish academic with a lot of inherited familial trauma, it does not make me feel great that an avowed supporter of the German far-right now has access to my Social Security number.
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Joel I share your sentiment exactly. Furthermore, I’m also concerned that the democrats aren’t doing everything possible to scream and yell and obstruct in protest of a non elected multi billionaire having ANY say in how our government functions. Where are they??
You may recall that there was a reason Nazis would cease public records and census data in towns as one of the first things when rolling in
You may want to move to another country. NOW...
The ghosts of my grandparents who barely survived Nazi Germany as German Jews are pissed off at me for no preventing this mess some how. I keep hearing their lectures to fix this problem.
Joel, that's why I'm screaming. I just asked if we could start a class action suit. I'm not a lawyer, but some lawyers could be creative. I have to have some rights. What do you think?
Unfortunately the IBM sold the .punch card machines which made the NAZIS more deadly. Human cruelty knows no bounds. And it can happen to anyone, anywhere. It is deeply saddening, and sickening. Violence should not be the human go-to.
Your SS, birthdate, mother’s maiden name…they’re going to clear out the finances of their “enemies” (true American patriots and all the culture wars they’re targeting at the moment) using identity theft and fraud, then put them in concentration camps. Just like the Nazis.
Yes. You’d think our govt would have been tipped off when they held their CPAC conference in HUNGARY, where they finalized Project 2025 with the Hungarian “sister” organization.
Since Musk isn't acting as an appointed governmental official does this mean he doesn't have immunity from civil damages? The potential liability here is catastrophic for him if he's on the hook.
Sure hope so. All his contracts with US must be cancelled, and all his assets seized while he is prosecuted, jailed, deported (who knows where, because SA won't take him I'm sure).
You are not alone. Just know that there are good people in our country that will help and support you as the fascists attack our government. We have to stay together
The black majority of South Africa is giving the white minority a taste of their own medicine, and Elon is upset by this. Elon should move back to South Africa and take up this fight first hand, instead of using the US government and our tax dollars to punish his enemies in another country.
You are not alone! I’m 74 confined to a hospital bed! All I have is my SS and Medicare. I was in Vietnam did 2 tours. Worked for 44 yrs. No interruptions in my work history. SS taken weekly! My employer match my taxes as well! People don’t realize for every dollar you pay they pay too!
It is not alarmist--it is being alert and real. It's easier to be in denial and wait to see, but we must find all the proper ways to stand up and speak out now, just like you are doing with this post.
THIS. Be very worried folks.
They target women, blacks, jews, LHGBTI+. They will target veterans. They will target sick, eldery, invalids.
They will target anything that doesn't work with them or will be a burden. They only want people who comply and work for them, so they can fill their pockets.
I’m so sorry we can never walk in your shoes but we need to try. Education is everything and so the affront is on both sides.There is no doubt in my mind he is a white supremest.Our fear is shared.
You are not being alarmist. The alarm is the appropriate reaction. I'm sorry that this is resulting in renewed trauma feelings. The whole situation is deeply frightening to those who are elderly, poor, and sick who receive SS for whatever reason. This is the plan. Scapegoat and terrify.
It really bothers me that people like Berel Solomon exist. Hes Jewish pushed for Trumps reelection fanatically.
It's like a betrayal. He's a famous Canadian youtuber. I wonder if he even cares. I'm very concerned for my friend sophia as she is queer and Jewish. As a trans person It's frightening.
Next we’ll find out he wants to buy Ancestry so he can combine data sets and identify everyone they’d like to eliminate. Sounds insane, I know, and I wish it was impossible but fear it’s not.
The government already uses those data sites to prosecute. We're already seeing over reach and misuse of power. Nothing is off the table. He's doing everything he said he would, and everything they said he couldn't.
And btw, I can tell you that some of the grants that were shut down related to RAPE KIT training for healthcare workers and forensic criminalists. For the NYC Medical Examiner’s office/lab, assume this was nationwide.
I’m in favor of using geology to identify serial killers and rapists. If your DNA was found on a victim, fuck your Ancestry privacy (not you, obviously). I’m not in favor of using it to catalog particular groups in order foster marginalization or genocide.
He is supported and empowered by Stephen Miller, Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman and the ADL, if that is any consolation for your specific circumstance. It's LGBT people who they are already erasing. Literally purging from existence in written records.
As a result of something on tv 10 minutes, I asked my kids (15 & 19) what they knew of what happened in the Balkans in the 90's. As far as they knew, it is just a holiday destination. How quickly the world forgets!
My flabbers are ghasted when I see so many Zionists fine with Musk giving Seig Heil’s as long as Trump helps raze Gaza to the ground, ethnically cleanse the strip and bulldoze the remaining population into the sea.
But I thought Donnie was a “friend to Israel”.
Nobody has done more for Israel than Trump and Biden and Harris hate Israel and are antisemitic. Isn’t that What Trump said?
I heard the same.. this is one of those sorry, not sorry times. Yet, I'm not sorry at all. You did this to me, you should be apologizing to me. That's how I feel, but it’s not about Mr, so RESISTANCE IS NECESSARY
The fact he is probably feeding all the info into his AI, is probably willing to sell what ever gets him some more money is all bad enough, but to be a minority he obviously has problems with would definitely be worse.
Social media is not a safe space. Get angrier. Get on the street. Serbia/Slovakia/Georgia all having daily protests. It seems US citizens can't be bothered to get out of bed. Why is traffic not blocked in every major city? How pissed off are you actually?
As the offspring of Germans who grew up there in the 30s, I’m very fucking alarmed. Be alarmed. We said “never again,” but our “leaders” are saying “yes again please.” I’m angry that they’re letting this happen step by step the way my parents described it, the way Anne Frank described it!
Once, when I moved to another city, I accidentally left my social security card in a box of trash. A stranger found a business card and called me to get it.
I’m LESS concerned about that stranger taking pictures of/abusing knowledge of my SSN.
I have a huge problem with that. I don’t support Netanyahu or the treatment of Palestinians. I am Jewish. But consider this, no ethnicity is all for one thing or another. All groups have mixed views on all things. That’s the humanity in people having the right to choose. Never Again for all!
You are not alarmist, Joel. I live 6 kilometres from Buchenwald. The AfD is very strong here-I live in the equivalent of Austin, Tx, where you have a city of blue surrounded by a sea of red. Just the opposite here, a city of red surrounded by a sea of blue.And Elon Musk supporting them? Not alarmist
This doesn’t make it better, but how far down the pool did Musk have to go to get techs willing to hack the US Federal Treasury?
Probably not the best, brightest or most experienced.
I’m aware they can do harm, but finding willing idiots may have been a struggle??
The house has the power but do they have the balls
to make a third impeachment quickly echo in the halls
the senate can do what it didn't do before
every good republican must take to the floor
before it's too late
please don't wait
democrats must have a plan we need to hear you more
#HCK
Politicians vs the richest Nazi and Bros™ that can throw what they consider pocket change that would be enough to grant them a very cozy life. What charter?
You are still thinking of nirmal times.
This is literally war.
Actual nazis.
Be cognizant that even as a civilian you may be called upon to kill nazi people in this very country.
IT IS THAT SERIOUS.
It does, but the people must know that and maintain it. But our current style is to assume someone else will do that for us because "That's someone else's job" and here we are.
He’s a NAZI!! Call the fascist scum what he is. We are all afraid. And he has it out for Black people specifically. He needs to be arrested and punished for treason. AND!!! Tim Cook let him into our phones. When they update we get cursed with starlink. We are all screwed.
I was thinking the same thing. A nazi looking into personal identifiable data with a hunger of vengeance. This is not a good thing. Where are the protections for our personal data from people without clearance?
I am with you Joel,..its scary 😨 time, and No democrats are sounding an alarm!! Nazi Musk heist the US treasury with everyone's sensitive information backed up to their private server.. This should have been a national calamity!!
Only half Jewish, but I share your familial trauma experience. Jews being a little further down the list this time does absolutely nothing to make me feel any better about any of it.
And everything else about you and the rest of us. DOGE isn't even legal. The president can't create agencies, only Congress can. Elon is such a danger to national security they wouldn't give him security clearance. Because he does shit like this.
And your bank records, and all your tax records. Now being kept off-site from Treasury, on flash drives in the possession of six 19-24 year olds with screen names like "big balls"
@stuarth2o.bsky.social - yup, all unraveling before our very eyes.
What to do now? What to do when the evil we thought dead rises up - through the power of misinformation and hyper micro media consumption!?!
Ur not an alarmist! Go with gut! These people’s words are garbage! I am Christian , but Jesus was , is, and will return a Jew, a lion of the tribe of Judah! I believe Trump is antichrist and will start a second holocaust ! He he swastikas are already flying!
I also have inherited family trauma, and in this case, I think it helps me to see reality of this danger. But 9 years is a long time to live in this fear/worry condition, and sometimes wish I was blithely “hoping for the best”
If you received EFT payments for anything from the government, like SS, tax refunds, grants etc - he also has all of your personal banking information.
Even as a headline grabbing feint tactic by the Maga Cult....
Well it's crossed the line.
America is officially a failed state if the so called opposition and public don't get their shit together and hang these fascist fucks!
As a naturalized citizen from middle eastern country on the hate du jour list, I get it. I’ve already lost everything and ran away from one fascist theocracy. Do I really need to do this twice in 45 years.
Would love to, I don’t think anyone wants Americans and I don’t blame them. Process ain’t easy. I have English and German family, I speak a little German and love their life style. I just don’t know what I would do for work in Germany. England would be easier for what I do
Exactly. Germany is not a good idea. I landed in Luxembourg and don't regret it. But in a year I'll retire and go back to 😘 Central 🥰 America. No army. No Trump
I wish Canada would take me. Vancouver area would have lots of similarities to my N. CA gardening experience and there would be no language barrier. But so expensive, I already live in an expensive place
What are your qualifications? Germany is very tricky. I had no lunch there when I arrived. Belgium is very open minded. In France you will find many like you. If you speak French, all are a good option incl Luxembourg
2/ in England and Germany I’d have family support system. German far right is scaring me though.
I’m middle-aged, the idea of starting a new business in a country where I don’t know anyone is daunting. When we escaped Iran we went to US because of family already here.
1: I speak English, Farsi, and some German. I’ve owned a garden design, installation, and maintenance co. in N. California for 21 years. No formal education in that field, I’ve just been winging it for 2 decades. My work is unconventional. Have a bachelor’s degree. That’s it
You're not being an alarmist. I'm queer and disabled. The man you reference has disowned his kids for being like me. You, other out-groups, and I should be terrified...
but I'm not terrified! That's what they want. I am standing up and standing out with pride. I see you doing the same.
#solidarity
You're so right! From a data standpoint, he just got multiple billions of dollar value in dat to program his AI and model his financial one-app plan. He hit the jackpot from a personal enrichment perspective.
It’s so scary! If the real government ever wrests back control of the Treasury, they’re going to have to issue everyone new birthdates and Social Security numbers. 😬
He potentially has access to more than American Jews (trans, gay etc) information if he has gained access to the Five Eyes network as it includes a number of other countries, officially and unofficially, who share data with each other on their citizens.
If you don't have some already, I would suggest getting a firearm or two, learning to use them safely and having them ready. Decent people have faced fascism before and defeated it with those tools. This isn't the first rise of evil and it won't be the last. It's our turn to fight for democracy.
IKR? This was a point I was trying to get across to someone in a LIBERAL group who didn't see a problem because he is rich so he doesn't need to sell them & thought her bank would protect her.
If we're not already, we should all be alarmed. There's a huge protest scheduled today in DC in front of the Treasury at 5 pm, if anyone is interested in attending.
I’m sorry you are right. I see so many Jewish people in the area where I live, who I love and respect, who broke my heart by voting for this man. But you are right. I should not have said that and I apologize.
I think it sounds like you processed some of those feelings of being frustrated. I get it. I see people on YouTube who are trans like me but they voted for Trump. I get angry and feel my feelings - and arguing on the internet is a good way to burn steam. But also you’re human and grieving, too.
Same. Not an academic, but same with the inherited trauma. I keep asking myself what my grandmother would do (she escaped Warsaw in 38; her family didn't). I'm glad she's not alive to see this, though.
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Over-action is safer than under-action.
You may want to move to another country. NOW...
While I study the Third Reich in all aspects; it is simply beyond my comprehension as to the agony they inflicted.
I share your concern for our current situation.
https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2024-08-13/hacker-claims-theft-of-every-american-social-security-number
Somebody needs to shoot the mad dogs,trump and musk.
At some point the alarm actually goes off and you have to listen.
These pathetic little edgelords have to copy other people's work, there isn't a creative brain cell amongst them
Argentina? A house on Garibaldi street, perhaps?
(to take US prisoners for a fee)
All people paying attention are.
https://newrepublic.com/post/191101/rubio-plan-deport-us-citizens-el-salvador
I'm liberal AF, and some peeps find out im also Pro 2nd amendment, and freak.
And the "2A" fetisists are all "Yer to liberal to shoot good"
Generational trauma is a bitch
These are literally nazis.
They target women, blacks, jews, LHGBTI+. They will target veterans. They will target sick, eldery, invalids.
They will target anything that doesn't work with them or will be a burden. They only want people who comply and work for them, so they can fill their pockets.
But for a dozen other reasons which are not aligning with the Trump policies.
It's like a betrayal. He's a famous Canadian youtuber. I wonder if he even cares. I'm very concerned for my friend sophia as she is queer and Jewish. As a trans person It's frightening.
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69559...
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69559...
Help me recruit!
I need people to fight an information war.
You’re not alone.
Sounds familiar to me
Nobody has done more for Israel than Trump and Biden and Harris hate Israel and are antisemitic. Isn’t that What Trump said?
Don’t start with me bitch.
I’m LESS concerned about that stranger taking pictures of/abusing knowledge of my SSN.
Probably not the best, brightest or most experienced.
I’m aware they can do harm, but finding willing idiots may have been a struggle??
Deeply, sincerely sorry. 💔
I will do everything in my power to resist them.
Solidarity.
to make a third impeachment quickly echo in the halls
the senate can do what it didn't do before
every good republican must take to the floor
before it's too late
please don't wait
democrats must have a plan we need to hear you more
#HCK
Fuck him and his cars‼️
No but seriously fuck that goddamned Nazi. Fuck Elon, useless little asswipe.
Damn! Need that asshole out of America now!
This is literally war.
Actual nazis.
Be cognizant that even as a civilian you may be called upon to kill nazi people in this very country.
IT IS THAT SERIOUS.
(Looks away with gloom)
This is how it starts.
Maga delenda est.
What to do now? What to do when the evil we thought dead rises up - through the power of misinformation and hyper micro media consumption!?!
Him and his little band of young adult boys are compiling lists with their access. Shits about to get dark.
Well it's crossed the line.
America is officially a failed state if the so called opposition and public don't get their shit together and hang these fascist fucks!
I’m middle-aged, the idea of starting a new business in a country where I don’t know anyone is daunting. When we escaped Iran we went to US because of family already here.
I feel you.
but I'm not terrified! That's what they want. I am standing up and standing out with pride. I see you doing the same.
#solidarity
I also don't feel great that he can see which social security numbers are tied to tax filings of same-sex marriage households.
I'm up a creek (or on a train) for both lists.
Elon Musk now has everyone’s personal data, in a way that Mark Zuckerberg could only dream of.