BREAKING: A judge just ruled that the US DOGE Service is likely subject to FOIA and ordered the preservation of documents and expedited processing of CREW’s FOIA requests.
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Does this ruling apply to the USAID documents that Musk has ordered burned/destroyed? The destruction of those documents could seriously hamper lawsuits contesting the dismantling of USAID.
Thank you for requesting the documents & a full accounting of what DOGE is doing. Glad the judge sided with the right side. Courts are still pushing back like they should. Is Donald listening to them? https://youtu.be/FSYAsrxOXfw
Excellent work! This cloak of secrecy is really antithetical to the intended design of the US govt. The efficiency creeps' work is not classified, there is no reason it can't be public.
Back in the day in 2017 when we had a free press, they'd be the ones filing the FOIA lawsuits. I miss those days.
Yeah, I’m not holding my breath. The two big lessons the GOP learned from Nixon’s Downfall were: 1. Control the press, and 2. Destroy the evidence. Remember Cheney openly shredding all the material covering his presidency during the “W” years when he left office? Emails are even easier.
Emails are actually a lot harder to get rid of since most are stored on a central server, and when you "delete" them, they are moved to another part of that server for a set amount of time. Even if that time has passed, unless the data was overwritten, it can be recovered with the right toolkit.
Would these be the same ones who couldn't properly secure the DOGE website? I have faith that someone out there has been keeping records of everything. I mean, its not hard to fit several thousand emails on a USB, or have a server backup to another location only IT knows about.
I honestly thought it was common knowledge given how people cried about "Hilary's emails" for fucking years. They seemed to understand it back then at least, but I guess 8 years is enough time for the MAGA brain virus to destroy their memories and logical thinking capabilities.
Congrats.
But, what if they refuse to give them up, or stop destroying the records? How will you know if what they hand over is all of it, or even accurate?
Again, our court system is great if it is not an emergency. But this is a five hundred alarm fire here!! They must move faster!!
At this point, do you really think they will honor any court orders. They are on a ketamine high and be damned those pesky peons. It will take more than the rule of law to rid this county of this plague since they have demonstrated that they are totally immune from this disinfectant.
If we stand up together and fight back we will win! Call every day - over and over until they hear us! NO ONE IS COMING TO SAVE US! We have to do this on our own!
Thank you CREW for helping to bring DOGE into the light of scrutiny. Since they have exceeded their original mandate of being an advisory agency to a policy setting one, they need to be held accountable just like any other agency in government.
Which order they will no doubt ignore. More's the pity, since the obvious and inept hatchet job these freaks are doing to our government deserves to be studied in detail, so we can all react with appropriate horror and laughter.
It is a government - who knows what - and messing with taxpayer $. Of course FOIA applies. Rep. Jamie Raskinsaid everyone needs to file a FOIA for their records.
The Judge’s decision is a good one, but what makes anyone think Musk and DOGE will abide by the decision and preserve documents? Musk and crew already have violated many laws - and Musk seems to think he can do whatever he wants, legal or not.
No shit. They are government actors playing a role in government! The only reason rump tried to say they weren’t is because they gotta get this fascist thing *done*and*fast! If Elon has to stop and answer questions, produce data, be accountable, that could stop the fascist takeover!
Another CO that Elmo and his jv league hackers will ignore. They don’t comply to any of these CO’s and no body in our fed govt can or will enforce it. US Marshalls report to Pam Bondi who gargles Trump’s nads daily. They are lawless and getting away with all of it. It’s time. #Paris1793
But who is going to enforce the ruling? The biggest scam in America is that courts make rules and people have to follow. Sure WE THE PEOPLE have to, but with enough power then the law means nothing.
I made the same assumption about EOP being a shield, but it turns out the FOIA statute explicitly *includes* orgs set up within it. See pages 23-26 of the opinion, where the judge goes through the caselaw of previous FOIA suits against EOP agencies.
I have no doubt there is a reason why DOGE has been pulled under the EOP umbrella, but it's probably not to keep it from FOIA requests, unless someone messed up badly. Which there is obviously no reason to rule out!
What's still criminal, though, is their unmonitored data access and unknown abuse - sharing, selling, analyzing, feeding Musk's AI and more - of that access.
Absent criminal charges against all involved parties, the public has no recourse to effects of that abuse.
The people over at the federal government some times do their jobs. I ask everyday when they are going to kick it up the chain of command and we have the we can’t handle the truth moment. I think I saw this in a movie before.
You mean a 19-year-old named big balls might not know how the government is meant to be run?! Yeah, isn’t that the point of using kids, they can’t do anything wrong because they don’t know what they don’t know.
This has happened before.. Right before the Iraqi invasion there were mass protests everywhere which the mainstream media didn't cover. If it wasn't for Gonzo Journalism, Our renegades of the stone age showing up the media could have ignored it but they still had to show some snippets. Still United.
Weapons of mass destruction including preventable diseases might be enough to catch a crimes against humanity if the school shootings didn’t work. Especially since Denver International is still open!
Cool. Legal win, but good luck ever seeing anything. They're just going to fire everyone who processes those requests to make sure they take years and years to complete.
All those little nerd 19 year olds need to go to jail and of course Musk. He IS the head of DOGE no matter what they say in court. The president announced that in his speech.
All these orders preserving data after the fact explain to me how that makes any sense if you think they're going to leave any evidence of their crimes around for you to see they're hackers they know how to cover this s*** up
Since when has anyone in a Trump administration played by the law, esp when it comes to documents! We have two trust-fund brats who've spent their lives getting what they want using their money. What fool thinks they'll care what the law says, esp. since the SC said he couldn't be held accountable?
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I hope they all have to take the FOIA training that civil servants have to take annually. It is so boring and dull it may force some of them to quit, and will put the others into a coma so they can't do any moredamage.
It could take years for the court to render a definitive ruling ending the case, but the judge can grant this much now if CREW has already shown it will likely win (and that it's urgent enough, etc.)
It depends whether DOGE/USDS is an "agency" within the meaning of FOIA. Offices within the Executive Office of the President that "'wield[] substantial authority independent of the President'" are subject to the FOIA.
Trying to plod along, instead of ordering US Marshals and Capital Police to take immediate action to fulfill writs and stop illegal actions.
It’s time for actions appropriate for the situation
I made a news paper for the idiots in my neighborhood to be reminded we are the people. I’ve been papering peoples cars. Making scenes in Starbucks. Driving around town and dropping them off when people take a picture of my car saying no taxation w/o representation.
You can bet these dumpster analysts are just rifling through org charts and winging it, no regard to documentation. You can’t move this fast unless you are breaking all the best practices. Assholes.
Please start a class action lawsuit on social security, medicare and medicaid. I know it isn't quite time yet and unfortunately we have to wait until the real damage begins, but I hope you will move forward with a HUGE lawsuit once the time is right!
And as I asked a few days back... since Temu Tony Stark and his Doge droogs now all have .gov emails, they’re supposed to be preserving and archiving their correspondence, correct?
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ignore the courts’ rulings.
But I believe even this was not
fully possible.
Starting to see some cracks in their plans. We need to keep fighting back and hitting em where it hurts the most…
Back in the day in 2017 when we had a free press, they'd be the ones filing the FOIA lawsuits. I miss those days.
IDGAF about their rights. They sacrificed those by being traitors.
What do legal orders mean to lawless people?
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But, what if they refuse to give them up, or stop destroying the records? How will you know if what they hand over is all of it, or even accurate?
Again, our court system is great if it is not an emergency. But this is a five hundred alarm fire here!! They must move faster!!
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It's almost humorous, except it's tragic.
Why “likely”???
There are shredders and burn bags everywhere.
You'd think they don't want any evidence about the actions.
I think you guys may have lost your democracy, no joke, it looks real bad!
https://www.poynter.org/reporting-editing/2025/public-records-requests-trump-administration-federal-government-foia/
It’s organized the way it is for a reason.
Absent criminal charges against all involved parties, the public has no recourse to effects of that abuse.
#ArrestMusk
#ConvictTrump
It is their MO!!
DOGE = Devoid of Government Ethics
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not suggesting you guys futz with docs!
I'm the former kind of dillhole, not the latter.
This stuff is good news. 👍
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