That's what's driving the most extreme shit.. bully baby boy Elon's bazillion dollar bully baby boy army!
Everybody is afraid of the dude! I'm not and I wash right out! These guys are fucking crybabies when they get called out! I've seen it! I couldn't believe it then! Or now! Or ever! WTH?
Trump won, stop being a sore loser. Trump one because more people liked him. Biden's presidency was a disaster, and lots of people (including me) suffered from it. Trump has already done so much to make the US better in the short time he's been president!
This is something I'm curious about - Trump has immunity and doesn't *need* to run again. He's also got a lot of money in his shitcoin now. He also has the power to end Elon's contracts or open/continue new investigations. I feel like he could turn his lackeys on him pretty easily/quickly.
I doubt he is afraid of him but maybe has met bully match, have to remember $288 million can get you what ever you want whether Trump likes it or not ....
#elonmusk wealth comes almost entirely from #tesla stock. So many countries are boycotting it. Breaking him financially is the only way to rein him in. And we can all collectively do that by boycotting. Look what maga did with Bud Light
Yes, except that the value of Tesla stock is unrelated to the worth of the company. Partly it is a ‘meme’ stock, like a pyramid scheme, millions of holders talking it up, pretending robots, fsd, ai etc will pay off.
And partly, now, people assume Musk will fix it so it gets unlimited state funding.
You got it wrong. tRump is resistant to any dirt, scandal, corruption, or money. Musk his circle put their guy as vice-president. They can get rid of tRump at any moment in any way and replace him with JD Vance.
I do imagine a conflict / falling out is coming at some point. Yes the damage is already done however I’m convinced both have significant dirt on each-other.
In his first administration, Trump was livid when postcards started arriving at the White House addressed to "President Bannon." It would be terrible if people did the same addressed to "President Musk."
Sure, I think we all get dictator vibes from the Republican Party, but that’s not what was said. It’s about whether or not Elon would take control. The party would never let Elon takeover, he’s better as a shadow operator, which is what we see now.
YOU NEED POWER. YOU NEED TO BE THE ONLY PERSON RUNNING THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU GO TO A LOAN SHARK.
BORROW MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS TO SAY YOU ARE KING & OWN IT ALL.
LOAN SHARK SHOWS UP REAL QUICK TO START GETTING PAID BACK.
This is the corruption of the American system, or part of it - allowing one or a small number of megadonors to fund your campaign. 'He who pays the piper calls the tune.'
Plus, yeah, Trump was circling the drain financially before he won.
Trump is, and always will be, a coward. He's afraid of everyone, but like most cowards pretends to be "strong" thinking he will not be challenged & tries to belong to what he perceives as the strong groups for the same reason. He constantly fears that his cowardice will be exposed.
Here's a theory: Musk & Putin are better besties than Trump & Musk. Musk works for Putin. Trump knows it, but Trump likes Putin's control over Russia & wants to be a dictator, but he's also scared of Putin. Trump sees Putin's enemies turn up DEAD! Trump must let Musk run amok like a brat or he dies.
let's say you're a mob boss. You do business by strongly implying that you want things done. You don't text. The richest man in the world, besides the Russian you already report to, comes to you and says I will do all the illegal stuff for you. Then he sits there and watches it happen.
Please don't just share on this forum. Tell your reps in DC what you think. Resist. It only takes a few minutes and best of all..it doesn’t cost any money.
We don’t need money in politics. We just need people to participate.
Musk holds the rigged election over Trump's head.
Nobody batted an eye when Ivanka patented voting machines from China in 2017 while daddy was President.
🤔 Where are those machines today?
Trump told us, "Did u see those voting machines numbers in Pennsylvania?"
Honestly I think he's lazy. His views BASICALLY align with elon but at the end of the day he wants to do performative culture war bullshit, play golf, steal money, and stay out of jail
I think it also goes down the congress pipeline. Long-standing Republicans are abandoning their ideals for efficiency, supporting international involvement, rule of law, and spending cuts. They’ve all fallen in line and probably afraid of retribution. Cowards. They’re forgoing America.
He fears Musk’s ability to turn the algos against him. Just like he feared Murdoch’s ability to help or hurt his image. Musk could destroy Trump in under a month.
Remember Trump said other countries are sending us Hannibal Lecter. Well it appears he's been found. His name is Elon and Trump is now at the bottom of the well with Elon sending him baskets calling down: "It puts the lotion on the skin or else it gets the hose again..."
Maybe he's worried Elon will steal his identity, or empty what little is in his bank account, all of which could be information Trump allowed him to harvest with impunity
The biggest question is what does he have on him? The guy never goes this hard on letting someone do what they want unless they have something of consequence to ruin him.
An insatiable inferiority complex will keep Trump doing what he does to pump himself up. The grass will always be greener when he views successful/popular people. Apparently Nixon was similarly afflicted and amoral. The resulting bad behavior and immoral acts take a back seat to showing importance.
dumpy owes him the election, so of course he allows him free reign (not a typo). All Dumpy wants is revenge on everyone that has ‘wronged’ him, other than that, he doesn’t care what Felonia does.
💯 yes. My fantasy conspiracy theory…? Musk rigged the election for him and if Trump doesn’t play nice that all comes out… along with the Epstein files.
Democracy can’t wait. There needs to be a people’s strike as close to now as possible. The current resistance is far too civilized to be effective in these extreme circumstances #belikemarymaloney
I can see that. That’s the beauty of nonviolent resistance. From my understanding martial law is typically used to curtail violence. If the resistance is nonviolent then it shouldn’t apply. Of course they’re pulling a coup so unfortunately all rules of common sense don’t apply to them.
Because the MAGAlith does not want people to see the "off script questions and remarks" lest people see exactly what the Department head REALLY things. They HAVE to manage the message to mask the truth!
Only bc he’s a proxy for the people Trump really fears. Could they not have found a less insufferable tool to run interference for them? He is without question the most obnoxious person alive.
Trump is President Musk adviser. Trump doesn't want to be President. He's left that job up to President Musk. Trump spends to much time on achieving vengeance and much less time on making Americans safer. The more Trump fires talented agents the more at risk our country becomes.
The media needs to start referring to this as President musk and the musk administration. Start the infighting between these two megalomaniacs until one is ousted.
Big f f ing whoop...oh right? So used to Facebook censoring...big fucking whoop Elon is on the spectrum!!! So am I if truth be told and I wouldn't burn down democracy!!! Neither would anyone else I know who is any form of neurodiverse...as it is, I hate that personality is now pathologized
Who would believe him when all Trump has to do is dismiss him as fake news. Trump’s cult base would get to work on throwing out so much misinformation that the truth would get buried.
Trump, the grand maestro of distraction, peddling chaos while Oligarchs plunder.
Greenland? A shiny lure. Space Force? Another sleight of hand. He warps the news cycle, spinning scandals into spectacle. Lies? His art form. Attention? His currency.
No he’s not. Again underestimating the narcissist 🤡. He’s using Musk and when his shit show blows up, he can blame Musk, because he’s always the victim.
Down From the Plutocrats Out Trump's Ass
[“Over the River and Through the Woods”]
Down from the plutocrats, out Trump's ass
The self-serving lies parade
The horse's ass knows the rich run the show
And he just serves the Kool-Aid! 1/6
Musk is the real president. He’s running/ruining the country. Which makes me wonder what Musk has on trump ($250 million) or is he just lazy and not very smart. He did say that he likes dumb people. Birds of a feather…
Yes but not for reasons apparent.
Trump is shallow as dew, he is impressed by money.
We all know someone who equates money to intelligence.
These are people who always want, and always feel “less than”
Empty souls, nearly worthless
When ELON decides he no longer 'needs' Trump, he will threaten to FINANCE PRIMARIES against any GOP Senator/Congressman who doesn't go along with 'replacing Trump' ... any guesses on who will win that battle?
Elon could 'donate' $100 million to ANY 'challenger' he chooses.
Here’s hoping something gets out that makes them trigger-happy and they wipe each other out. The damage will be done but at least some amount of the illusion will be broken
What we are seeing is the digital equivalent of the burning of the Reichstag. Trump intends to create mass chaos & then declare martial law. He's a stupid sociopath & must rely on what has worked well in the past. In this case, that means reading from Hitler's script. I wish this were hyperbole.
🤣🤣 So so true. It must be bad if they are scared of them coming out. Like really, at this point, I find it hard to think of anything that would make these cultists want to leave him.
But wait! There’s more! They both appear to be active drug users (different drugs of choice, tho), are textbook narcissists, if not narcissistic sociopaths, and are suspiciously obsequious and obeisant to at least 1 foreign authoritarian head of state.
It’s pitiful that anyone should have to learning the hard way that not even the MOST wealth of all can buy genuine self-esteem, freedom from self-loathing, or the ability to love/be loved by others. Folks might actually feel sorry for him if he wasn’t such an arrogant twat!
Actually while musk talks about K his behavior suggests he and Trump share a love of amphetamines. He does not have the schedule of a guy whose main DOC is a disassociative anesthetic or weed. I bet that’s how he “parties” it’s adderall all day
DJT wants Musk’s money. He thinks if he lets Musk go nuts in the agencies, there will be a payout for Trump personally. There will be no way, until he’s out of office, to know how much $$$ they stole.
My guess is Elon is holding a pretty big secret about him. Every single swing state? Not likely. But until someone produces some evidence we’ll all be left to wonder.
Thank you for saying what I’ve been saying since November. ttump owes musk big time, and if trump lives rhat long, we’ll see the same result going forward 😫
I’ve wondered about this. Trump got about the same amount of votes as in 2020 but won this time. Are we to believe that more democratic voters stayed home in 2024 compared to in 2020 during the pandemic?
More Democratic voters actually came out for Kamala than repugnicans did for the orange turd, yet he won all the swing states, the House and the Senate?!! Bullshit 🙄🙄
Also possible as many tried to vote this year, but "4,776,706" votes were purged (see Greg Palast). Also Elon, "...[who] knows those computers better than anybody... And we ended up winning Pennsylvania like in a landslide." (T won by 120k votes)
It's plausible that more people did actually vote in 2020, given that vote-by-mail was allowed or expanded in many states that typically don't allow mail voting.
No, 90M eligible voters stayed home. Or, were they denied the right to vote due to purging the rolls? Way too many people who did not care about the most important election of our lives.
Sadly yes, I know several people that didn’t vote or didn’t vote for Trump but one of the others.
In Arkansas there were so many candidates names listed for president, as I recall Biden’s name was way down the list.
It really sickens me, I knew Trump was going to be hell on wheels!
I think Trump and Republicans are happy Elon took control. Trump is not capable and does not want to do anything. Republicans want to dismantle the government and foment fear and hate. Trump's distracted by fake real estate deals in Gaza and Greenland and golf.
Honest serious question: do we think that Elon hacked voting machines in swing states, which is the devil’s bargain that keeps them both from attacking each other; because they have equal amounts to fear?
“Trump can’t––or won’t––challenge Musk because Trump understands Musk’s unprecedented power. Musk is reportedly worth nearly $400 billion and has more than 216 million followers on X. (Trump has less than half that follower count on X, plus an audience of 8.8 million on Truth Social.)”
I listened to your interview on Ezra Klein’s pod and when he was talking about Musk as Trump’s sin eater, I thought I wonder if it’s really the other way around.
He's literally afraid of being overshadowed by his own shadow. His thoughtless cruelty is a direct testament to his lack of self-confidence. People who are *actually* self-confident don't deny every error, bully others, enter fair contest and play by the rules, etc.
There are lots of things to be disheartened and angry about here, but the idea that the president of the United States is afraid of another human being because they have X amount of followers on a social media site is insanity itself. A large # of Elon's followers are fake & WHO GIVES A SHIT?!
I think Musk is useful (now). When he ceases to be useful I think Trump will cut him loose. People underestimate the power of the President and specifically a president who will test the limits of every guardrail.
Well, Musk does have a powerful hold over him.
Trump has praised Musk for his abilities with manipulating the system, and had alluded to the 2024 election outcome.
So maybe, Trump's push for ultimate power will crash, if and when Musk chooses?
"Trump’s grip on the MAGA base eventually made it impossible for the establishment to rein him in. Musk has a similar psychic hold over his massive fan base, which gives him significant leverage over Trump. Trump also knows that Musk is willing to out-crazy him."
Everyone wants to make it about something secretive and sinister; remember the pee tape? Occam's razor. Trump's always been transactional. It's about money.
Stop voting for old politicians.Let's get some new blood in the situation.These people are relics.The Convict is a relic. because he's a disgrace to the United States.
Of course he is. Have you seen him lately?He's got so much makeup on. He's old he keeps dozing off during his news conferences.And he makes fun of Joe Biden.Wow, what comes around goes around.
Trump is indeed afraid of Elon Musk. In addition to the $250 million he dumped into Trump's campaign, Musk knows all the ways he helped to install Trump as President in 2024, and some of them are probably illegal.
Not afraid, subservient to. Elon purchased/ensured his freedom from accountability. Trump is afraid of someone... just not Elon. Elon is a noodle with a bank account.
No, he's definitely afraid of Musk IMO. Elon undoubtedly has all the dirt on Trump. He has already demonstrated his ability to hack data servers. Trump will do anything to avoid say, his tax returns, released. And that's probably just the tip of the iceberg.
Respectfully disagree. Trump has learned one thing over the last 8 years... it matters not what he does, accountability does not come for him. Elon is fostering an environment, where someone like Elon can be "disappeared". Putin, Orban, Xi to some extent... is who Trump fears (aspires to).
Slim - not sure of all the details, but I have seen a lot of people talking abt how Swisher is the enemy, eg a person who spent a decade writing puff pieces about musk
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Everybody is afraid of the dude! I'm not and I wash right out! These guys are fucking crybabies when they get called out! I've seen it! I couldn't believe it then! Or now! Or ever! WTH?
Make America great again folks!
And partly, now, people assume Musk will fix it so it gets unlimited state funding.
BORROW MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS TO SAY YOU ARE KING & OWN IT ALL.
LOAN SHARK SHOWS UP REAL QUICK TO START GETTING PAID BACK.
Plus, yeah, Trump was circling the drain financially before he won.
seriously guys, only chance we have is the first get rid of musk.
This should be easy.
We need to really push "Musk is Trump's Daddy" kinda shit.
Trump could never handle that and would ask for a resignation.
We don’t need money in politics. We just need people to participate.
https://www.nationalfinancialplan.com
Nobody batted an eye when Ivanka patented voting machines from China in 2017 while daddy was President.
🤔 Where are those machines today?
Trump told us, "Did u see those voting machines numbers in Pennsylvania?"
When the time is right, Trump will put the DOJ on to him.
Just a matter of time.
He's all that's wrong with humanity
Mr. Trump-this is the way Republican Congress/Senate feels about you. How do you like it?
Remove these incompetent morons now!
He then focussed on ejecting others in leadership.
Greenland? A shiny lure. Space Force? Another sleight of hand. He warps the news cycle, spinning scandals into spectacle. Lies? His art form. Attention? His currency.
And we, unwitting extras in his grotesque ballet.
Thiel? His mother?
[“Over the River and Through the Woods”]
Down from the plutocrats, out Trump's ass
The self-serving lies parade
The horse's ass knows the rich run the show
And he just serves the Kool-Aid! 1/6
#TrumpSong #TrumpCult
Their hate propaganda sways
The MAGA cult shouts "Lock 'em up
It's Retribution Day!" 2/6
#TrumpSong #TrumpCult
The immigrant hatred flows
A fascist brain can't see the pains
That normal humans know! 3/6
Down from the plutocrats, out Trump's ass
The prison camp planning goes
It tears apart our human hearts
But psychopaths don't have those! 4/6
The trumped-up indictments come
They make up crimes to fit at times
And use judicial thumbs! 5/6
Down from the plutocrats, out Trump's ass
And to the gates of Hell
It seems to go at first so slow
But then all the guardrails fail! 6/6
Trump is shallow as dew, he is impressed by money.
We all know someone who equates money to intelligence.
These are people who always want, and always feel “less than”
Empty souls, nearly worthless
Elon could 'donate' $100 million to ANY 'challenger' he chooses.
What would take the blindfold off his psychofans??? Or, cause his terrorized Legislators to grow a pair. What??
https://www.gregpalast.com/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won/
In Arkansas there were so many candidates names listed for president, as I recall Biden’s name was way down the list.
It really sickens me, I knew Trump was going to be hell on wheels!
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Not to mention Elon bought Trump his position, so he's indebted to him.
Trump has praised Musk for his abilities with manipulating the system, and had alluded to the 2024 election outcome.
So maybe, Trump's push for ultimate power will crash, if and when Musk chooses?
Guarantee Trump will transfer billions of our money to his account before he leaves.
He has 'immunity'.
Slim - not sure of all the details, but I have seen a lot of people talking abt how Swisher is the enemy, eg a person who spent a decade writing puff pieces about musk
not sure, but hthin you shold block her ?
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