Good lord what a bunch of liars and incompetents. Also, as an aside. who sets their disappearing messages to 4 weeks if they want to avoid accountability? Also, @jeffreygoldberg.bsky.social is a badass.
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I was going to joke about praying for mission success. Then I remembered if you believe the bible, God liked to kill people. The entire human race in a flood...except Noah and family. Nations, cities, first born children, and then his own son. A pretty good track record on the killing.
The only shock here is that it took this long before their abject incompetence was laid out before the people. My God, NONE of the people in front of the Senate knew ANY of the protocols & rules the Senators asked them about.
Clearly an underground environment of avoiding permanent documentation. This is not an outlier. FBI needs to dig deep into this. Ironic that Trump and GOP constantly refer to a deep state. They are the deep state.
Setting messages to automatically disappear is also a violation of the Federal Records Act. Of course this administration won't allow any one to be prosecuted for Signalgate and will preemptively pardon anyone involved so the next administration won't be able to prosecute.
JD Vance can shove his prayer up his corrupt rear. Stop using religion to praise war and death. Ridiculous. If their God was real, he would jolt them off the earth. This is the devil's work.
You gotta love the Christian bullshit prayers for victory to kill other humans. Meanwhile, a woman who has been raped and needs an abortion is consider a murderer under god’s law. JD Vance is slime.
That means there are possibly up to 4 weeks worth of messages still available for hackers and investigators. Oh wait, the guy that made it is the investigator...
Something about praying for victory, when that victory means killing others, sits poorly with me.
I would argue one should pray for the souls of those you send to God, for your soul for this action you feel is necessary, and pray that God guide your actions, and stop you if you have gone astray.
"God speed to our warriors" You're not in the Independence Day movie, you fucking plum. You're sending a few billion dollars worth of state of the art jet fighters to bomb the shit out of a bunch of lads in a mud hut in the middle of nowhere. Stick to telling lies on Fox, you're good at that.
You’d think they’d know better.Sadly,they DO know the procedures but they were too lazy to be inconvenienced, too ‘relaxed’(imbibed spirted),& full of themselves to give a f*ck to be bothered ab Country or the other 99.5% of Americans.
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The lack of Trust,in our gov.,its agencies,expertise in Historical & Scientific Facts is what will be the death of our Liberal
Goldberg was apparently the participant MOST concerned with American security and the safety of our military personnel. Thanks go out to that good man.
In the “Hegseth Signal chat” Pete Hegseth shared precise details of military operations against Yemen’s Houthi forces with journalist Jeffrey Goldberg. Signal offers robust end-to-end encryption, but it is not a secure government platform and lacks protections required for classified communications.
Also, you can tell this has happened before since they have names attached to the numbers AND some are abbreviated…I mean those contacts were already there-
Another thing I find interesting IS that many on the chat didn’t respond…as if they knew they shouldn’t! 🤷🏼♀️
They also don’t understand that if anyone else did that they’d be in actual trouble and potentially in jail. But they’re privileged and will lie to not be embarrassed. They knew better, they didn’t care!
This isn’t classified or at least sensitive information but the information about the plane full of detainees headed to El Salvador was characterized as “State secrets” and argued as too sensitive to give a Federal judge? Did I get that correct?
They know they're doing illegal and deceitful things. That's why it has to be kept secret. We have to keep exposing them. Don't let up. GOP talking point now is that everyone makes mistakes move on.
They know they can put off Congress or whoever for at least four weeks.
If that's even necessary. Look up the Johnson/Conservative government in the UK and the spate of "oopsie, I lost that phone" excuses when their WhatsApp messages were subpoena'd.
But there was nothing classified in the chat!!! 🙄🙄🙄 I can't roll my eyes any harder than I've already been doing since the orange buffoon and his band of monkeys took over the Whitehouse.
Tammy Duckworth just pointed out that saying fighter planes scheduled to shoot bombs 1/2 hour after drones hit IS location information. Like, when you know where the drones hit, that's where you can expect fighter planes.
Four weeks isn’t disappearing, it’s Hide-n-Go Seek. They may be incompetent, but they have “the look” for tv. I mean that’s how I would hire “the best people”, if I was looking to destroy a corporation or country.
Experience & knowledge are totally overrated. 😳
interesting:
① there's not a single general in the chat.
probably because they know better.
② none of these people are in a SCIF (Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility).
③ a phone issued to the SecDef or NSA can't download Signal. this means they're using their personal phones.
“I want war crimes to be ignored, what if we just look incompetent”
Not one a single mention of the countless families murdered with their children in that building.
Truth be told, in this country, we elect & re-elect the people who attack the parents of children murdered in mass shootings.
We elect & re-elect the people who take blood money from gun lobbyists.
I doubt these people are going to pull a single hair for the Yemeni children.
Well, based on the testimony in the Senate, they barely recall what transpired yesterday. Therefore, I suppose they require that four-week message history because of their limited memory capacity. Mice have better memory than them.
If you got invited like that Kara, what would you do? You would think it was a hoax. They must protect him. He has withheld even more data including the names of CIA agent. If you were around during Bush, Wilson and Valerie Plame, explained by Keith Olbermann here at about 30 minutes into it.
This is why things are classified. And why the press is so valuable! Anyway if you listen to his YT channel...Olbermann is in the middle of many interesting events, you gotta say that for him.
Exactly. Additionally, I believe they are not allowed to disappear official messages. They are supposed to be retained for the archives. The Records Act or something.
This was an incredibly obvious follow-up article. Did they not think he had receipts? Every time they lied yesterday it just made this response inevitable. This was especially true once they claimed this wasn’t classified information.
NB for terrorists: Be sure - when scheduling assignations with your 'girlfriend' - arrive late in case you're being targeted for assassination at a precise time of day.
Did you ever wonder why the Orange Shitweasel said it takes 10 or 20 flushes on his toilet to make it work? Regular paper does not flush well, so the destruction of documents is hard. So is stupidity.
My favorite part is “I’ll say a prayer for victory.” Seriously, let’s fucking PRAY about murdering people. What a God-less empty soul he has, as do the rest of those heathens.
Christian Nationalist. They are not Christians but people whole believe we should have a Christian nation. They don't care about the teaching of Jesus, they just want to lead a nation of his followers. Because they are martyrs who would die so that everyone else would follow Jesus. 1/2
2/2 And the church. Ps. Don't tax them and remember to tithe 10%.
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The church. Organized religion and Christianity as we see it showing up in our world now is largely just a system of control. To profit from the "believers" 🤢 and keep them compliant.
Imagine being such a Christian supremacist that even when it's your group 100% in charge. You have to pretend all Christians are just fake Christians because they are to shitty for even you to defend
Good job by The Atlantic calling the administration’s bluff that this was not an important text exchange. By downplaying the chat’s significance, the administration effectively gave The Atlantic immunity. Congress must act!
I knew yesterday that he saved the text. Why in the F would you have been stupid enough to lie to the Senate about it. They are horrible humans, all of them.
When a clown who dreams of being a dictator has to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find people willing to break the law to show their loyalty, you won't end up with the sharpest tools in the shed.
‼️TAKE ACTION ‼️Every constituent of the MAGA Congress who confirmed these lying idiots KNOWING how unqualified and dangerous they were going to be need to call and demand an apology ‼️
When they deny that this was top secret information or that they didn't know, it reminds me of a toddler that just shit their pants but doesn't want to admit it.
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If I wrote a fiction book with this level of incompetent government officials in the story line it wouldn't sell a single copy and the reviews would read something like "characters are unbelievable, author took too many liberties trying to dumb them down".
If any of these incompetents are fired, they will just be replaced by more Republican incompetents. There is no one in the Trump circle who can do these jobs.
It was originally set to disappear in 7 days, clearly more is going on with Waltz including a journalist. Was he feeling some moral obligation to get out there how the current govt is conducting the peoples’ business and willing to take the heat?
It’s as secure as you can get using personal devices and way better than straight SMS texting. Signal may be able to collect metadata (up for debate) but short of hacking an endpoint or trickery that’s it so far as anyone knows. It’s a target for sure tho
Isn’t it unusual for the #president of the #USA be excluded from these decisions? Are they running the country without him? ⁉️ They’ve made him look like a chump. I’d think it would be embarrassing that other govts won’t share intel with him, never mind the chat group. How embarrassing. 😳
For a good while now, my prayers have been for an airplane toilet to fall out of the sky on one of these fuckers because that's what it's gonna take to wake everybody up.
Long story, short, releasing war plans prior to them actually transpiring compromises American security. End to end encrypted chat is not secure enough for such sensitive chats! Instead of firing judges that don’t side with you, fire, incompetent people in your cabinet please!
And the head liar said hegseth had nothing to do with the signal text. Gee, I could swear I saw his name at the top of the text 😉
What I'd like to know is why Jeffrey Goldbergs phone number is in waltz's phone. On
On a serious note, with all the shit going on, instead of one nation under God, God save this nation please. Like, my family and I may need to flee this country if it gets any worse.
We were thinking Alaska to kinda just live off grid but we still have A LOT of research to do before we make a final decision. Maybe Iceland or Finland? Idk.
Also thanku, we'll do our best.👍
(I know Alaska is a state but we still want to be close to our family as much as possible.)
Understandable. The thing we Europes can do, is to boycott everything, that supports that mess. Including Amazon, Tesla etc. The thing that Americans should do is protest, protest and protest. You are a huge number, they are not. Organize yourself. Its important so history wont repeat itself.
This looks like a war plan to someone who’s never been in a war. Again you have no idea what you’re talking about. Why weren’t you this mad when Hillary Clinton wiped out all her emails?
Here's the question that solves everything. If The Atlantic were to have blasted across the internet "US plans attack in the next 24 hours," wouldn't that either change the US plan of attack, OR, worse, allow all enemies to get to their battle stations? Put aside, Classified or not. Huge mistake!
Another aside: the operation included
- 2 sets of F-18s (how many in each?)
- some # of attack drones
- some # of Tomahawk missiles
Apparently to take out a guy in an apartment building. So exactly how much ordnance was used, how many non-targets were killed and how much collateral damage was done?
Can we talk about how legendarily cringey Vance is here?
Pray for victory? Son, you're sending the world's most advance military out to bomb the shit out of some hillbillies hiding in the desert. It's not a fight, it's a turkey shoot. It's not a war, it's a step above a training exercise.
JD Vance is a monster 👹
He is what my Mother would call a man who talks out of both sides of his face.
Two Faced Hillbilly who sucked up to Peter Thiel.
Then Donny Junior.
First he called trump a Nazi! Now he shines his shoes. He’s the most incompetent Vice President since Dan Quayle?
Oh my gosh ! Yes I do! Remember that! Boy I was a youngster . Made sure I never added that e !
Great recall Ben.
I sincerely miss that level of boring. 🥱 Too.
I remember, Bob Dole falling off a platform at a campaign gig and both parties were concerned about him! ! News was kinder. ☹️
Get ready.
Trump will claim Goldberg released classified docs.
Trump said there was nothing classified on TV.
Trump said he can declassify docs, such as the Mar A Lago docs, merely by saying it.
Trump will say none of his people reveals classified docs.
Follow the logic.
The arguments that I'm hearing the left try and use was it was to avoid looping in Trump. The reason seems to be lost as they want to blame it on his dementia or inability to be trusted. That doesn't even have to be invoked.
I've had bad bosses that make doing things the right way impossible. 1/2
He doesn't want to be bothered right now. He doesn't want SCIFs to be opened up because that would require his involvement. He just wants them to take care of it without him.
Signal is being used, because these people are wanting to "do what they see as their job" but have been hampered. 2/
Yeah, but when is anything of REAL consequence going to happen? This is a joke, it’s like someone just denying and deflecting an issue and then it uncomfortably melts away to be replaced by some other garbage issue or event. TALK IS CHEAP 🤷
I think it is going to be way worse. I have never been a prepper or doomsday survivalist, but I am growing one helluva garden this year and canning enough food for winter and my family, kids, grandkids, and friends. It is hard work, but it will pay off and feed us.
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JD Vance: "I will say a prayer for victory"
🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
Him changing it to 4 weeks is the only reason we know about this.
I would argue one should pray for the souls of those you send to God, for your soul for this action you feel is necessary, and pray that God guide your actions, and stop you if you have gone astray.
it's always only about who he's taking down with him.
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Authoritarian,Theocratic
The lack of Trust,in our gov.,its agencies,expertise in Historical & Scientific Facts is what will be the death of our Liberal
Another thing I find interesting IS that many on the chat didn’t respond…as if they knew they shouldn’t! 🤷🏼♀️
This entire thing is a #FUBAR!
And a talented cartoonist has even illustrated it.
I wish I could state the name, but it’s too small for my eyes. 👀
It disappears if you zoom far enough.
Thank you for that !
That was kind.
I could see it in your post.
I had tried zooming in on my phone but for some reason couldn’t get it big enough.
Dipshits.
Dipshits do.
If that's even necessary. Look up the Johnson/Conservative government in the UK and the spate of "oopsie, I lost that phone" excuses when their WhatsApp messages were subpoena'd.
God: “did you even say thank you?”
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Experience & knowledge are totally overrated. 😳
It really screws all their lies and attempts to coverup
① there's not a single general in the chat.
probably because they know better.
② none of these people are in a SCIF (Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility).
③ a phone issued to the SecDef or NSA can't download Signal. this means they're using their personal phones.
Not one a single mention of the countless families murdered with their children in that building.
We elect & re-elect the people who take blood money from gun lobbyists.
I doubt these people are going to pull a single hair for the Yemeni children.
This is why things are classified. And why the press is so valuable! Anyway if you listen to his YT channel...Olbermann is in the middle of many interesting events, you gotta say that for him.
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And a dewormed men Ken is vaccined, with his all fam. They are hypocrites
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The church. Organized religion and Christianity as we see it showing up in our world now is largely just a system of control. To profit from the "believers" 🤢 and keep them compliant.
@jeffreygoldberg.bsky.social
Maybe that means something else.
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Specially about Mr Goldberg
"Say a prayer" from Vance and 2 prayer hands.
@jeffreygoldberg.bsky.social exercised great patience and impeccable timing.
Tan grande cajones.
What I'd like to know is why Jeffrey Goldbergs phone number is in waltz's phone. On
On a serious note, with all the shit going on, instead of one nation under God, God save this nation please. Like, my family and I may need to flee this country if it gets any worse.
Try to stay safe tho.
Also thanku, we'll do our best.👍
(I know Alaska is a state but we still want to be close to our family as much as possible.)
- 2 sets of F-18s (how many in each?)
- some # of attack drones
- some # of Tomahawk missiles
Apparently to take out a guy in an apartment building. So exactly how much ordnance was used, how many non-targets were killed and how much collateral damage was done?
Pray for victory? Son, you're sending the world's most advance military out to bomb the shit out of some hillbillies hiding in the desert. It's not a fight, it's a turkey shoot. It's not a war, it's a step above a training exercise.
He is what my Mother would call a man who talks out of both sides of his face.
Two Faced Hillbilly who sucked up to Peter Thiel.
Then Donny Junior.
First he called trump a Nazi! Now he shines his shoes. He’s the most incompetent Vice President since Dan Quayle?
I miss that level of boring.
Great recall Ben.
I sincerely miss that level of boring. 🥱 Too.
I remember, Bob Dole falling off a platform at a campaign gig and both parties were concerned about him! ! News was kinder. ☹️
The risks are catastrophic to our service personnel and beyond.
Trump will claim Goldberg released classified docs.
Trump said there was nothing classified on TV.
Trump said he can declassify docs, such as the Mar A Lago docs, merely by saying it.
Trump will say none of his people reveals classified docs.
Follow the logic.
I've had bad bosses that make doing things the right way impossible. 1/2
Signal is being used, because these people are wanting to "do what they see as their job" but have been hampered. 2/
A bunch of man-boys having a circle jerk on Signal.