The US Department of Health and Human Services asked the CDC to study vaccines and autism, a person familiar with the situation told CNN, despite strong evidence that vaccines do not cause autism.
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Because trying to prove a debunked conspiracy theory is a good way to spend taxpayer dollars.
Canadians may have another reason not to visit the US … the border is closed due to another pandemic b/c the CDC was too busy on fairytales to see it coming
The world is entering a downswing of history. I'm not ashamed to shill my dad's book that covers electricity, ammo, water, food, health, and sustainability. These topics are covered in ways that other books do not. Especially making, storing and using electricity.
Autism is hereditary in many instances. All this whining about vaccines and I have never heard any theories as to the why of it, why vaccines are suspected of causing autism. Unless I see scientific studies from trusted sources I will always say that anti vax is bull shit.
I believe decades old vaccines like measles, mumps, rubella or rabies vaccines might be safe but while even the maker companies provide no guarantee on anything, 'ALL NEW VACCINES LIKE COVID VACCINES' need decades lasting tests with experiment&control groups before declared healthy&WITH NO MANDATES!
Plus, also the Lancet retracted the 1998 article it published that stated there was a link btwn vaccines & autism. Stating the study didn't follow scientific research methods. And was skewed by a lawyer representing families sueing over the "supposed" link.
I know people who are autistic. None support RFK's lies that their autism is due to MMR vaccine. Being Biomedical Scientists they understand the science. Unlike RFK, they don't view their neurodiversity in a negative light.
The US Government, including the DOJ Vaccination Court, has studied this for decades and have found vaccines don’t cause autism.
This is a WASTE of taxpayer money, inefficient, & reinventing the wheel!
Absolutely, but it will be used as proof for the science ignorant that have been looking for something to lean on & don't care about reality. And it's both sides. Bill Maher has been pounding this table too. It's not just new MAGAs.
If they seek to justify avoiding basic healthcare by believing an alternative reality the disease will not care. Beliefs have no relevance to non-human reality. Death rates will climb. The only question is who to blame - probably still migrants and poor people.
Because it’s been proven in multiple studies already that vaccines don’t cause autism. Anti-vaxxers and ableist “autism moms” just don’t like the results. Autistic development frequently diverges during toddlerhood, making autism more apparent. People are born with autistic brains.
Further, folks would rather eradicate autism than accept/support/accommodate autistics. Autistic people are seen as inconvenient/burdensome and this upsets the neurotypicals. We should find studies of autistic priorities, but we won’t. Really they should study why people hate autistic people so much
“Turtles All The Way Down”. There have never been any vaccinated vs unvaccinated studies. So what is the scientific evidence for the safety and benefits of the vaccine program?
There are probably hundreds of studies refuting the link between vaccines and autism. #CDC please study something else because these are not linked that is no causation between vaccines and autism. #savescience #askascientist #idsky
It's even been linked to chemicals banned decades ago like PCBs but let's waste money investigating something that has absolutely no correlation just because Kennedy is a f****** idiot
Autism isn’t increasing, identification of autism is increasing due to better diagnostic criteria, better understanding of autism presentation/traits, education/awareness, and broader access to healthcare. Due in large part to autistic advocates.
It is increasing, and the bulk is probably down to detection, increased awareness, yeah detection is a lot better but it is increasing statistically, and it does need to be looked at
But it's got nothing to do with vaccines
Personally I still think it's down to pollution though, most things are!
Except this study is pointless - this idea has been studied extensively, no link ever found. Autistic people would benefit from autistic priority research that would improve our lives, like understanding gastro issues or sleep problems and effective treatment. Or study why TF people hate us so much.
Things they should actually study:
-co-occurring conditions in autistic people for effective management, improving lives and well-being of autistic people
-why TF folks hate autistic people so much
-cure for ableism
I have numerous theories on why we’re disliked, but they make neurotypicals upset.
Ok, with all the harm that is being done outside of this by this poor excuse of an admin, I say let ‘em have at it. We know where the insecurity and misinformation comes from, so… if we’ve nothing to hide, we can run concurrent studies and for fuck’s sake put this issue to bed.
I’m autistic, what’s so bad about autism? I work for a non profit helping people and pay my taxes so how would me being dead from a preventable illness be better?
Just another group of people they hate. Who the fuck cares about somebody being autistic ? Doesn’t affect anybody. But MAGA hates them. Same with trans people.
My daughter has autism. She's barely verbal & self injures a lot. She's covered in bruises & scars from biting herself. She'll never drive a car, hold a job or live independently.
Honestly, part of me says, yeah, do this so the antivax weirdos will finally let this go…but then, it won’t matter if Trump himself declares them all safe, the conspiracy-minded will just think, “they got to him too!” Figurative tinfoil hats are hard to penetrate.
This 100%. There is a recent published study that “proved” causation by comparing vaccination status and autism diagnoses in child Medicaid patients (in FL I think). It is WILDLY flawed on multiple fronts, done by notorious anti vaxxers w/ prior bad/retracted research. It actually proves nothing.
I’m not. I think the sad thing is that even with proof, the antivaxxers are so deep into their own fear-spiral that they won’t believe it. They’ll have some excuse as to why the study is not reliable. That’s how the conspiracy brain functions.
I’ll add - several of these studies have already been done and they still don’t believe it. But yeah - do it again. Just don’t expect a different result from either the study nor the antivaxxers.
When were these studies done and by whom? No one can seem to provide a definitive answer other than regurgitating that the studies have been done and somehow it will cause irreparable harm to study it again. It's almost like people are afraid of what they may find.
Yeah - it won’t matter if they put out another study. You won’t believe it.
A big one is the Madsen study found in the New England Journal of Medicine - debunks the autism link. Also try the Heron study from the UK (archived at NIH for reading).
Antivaxxers don't care. It's not about the science, it's about the thrill of feeling smarter than everyone who listens to the consensus of global health experts and having a niche community of like-minded loons to vibe with.
It’s been studied to death, conclusive vaccines don’t cause autism. They want to eradicate autistics rather than accept us and study things that would actually help us lead better, safer, easier, more fulfilling lives.
Because anti-vaccine conspiracy nuts on the wellness-to-fascism pipeline won't care that yet another study found the same thing. It's a waste of time, resources, and attention to appeal to political supporters rather than to test important hypotheses.
Independent organizations doing the study include:
-The Kid Rock Medical Center
-Dr Oz's Snake Oils R Us
-MyShots (CEO Mike Lindell)
-The RFK Jr Foundation
-Jenny McCarthy's Death Poke Society
-DOGE, Doctors Division
I think the thing to watch for is eugenics like talk. That was a hallmark of the Nazi party; they executed "the weak" and disabled.
There are lots of differently abled people in the government. It worries me that the human purges of this regime will extend to those that see the world differently.
They want to spend millions researching something that has little correlation but no studies on the link between more guns and more deaths in communities.
Except this won’t end it - they will do bad science and/or falsify results. The “study” will suit their desired conclusion. Even if yet another good study proves vaccines don’t cause autism (AGAIN bc this has been done repeatedly), anti vaxxers will cry foul.
Let HHS dept head go study if vaccinations work, send him to West Texas to start caring for the hospitalized children with measels that were in anti vax families
Autism can be diagnosed at 3 months old. The vaccines falsely associated with it are started a 6 months. The Lancet retracted the bogus study & the author lost his medical license, end this myth once and for all.
I start the school year with a case study of the controversy around the mmr vaccine. He cherry picked data, only used 8 cases and had that financial motivation.
The myth caught fire and spread, the desperation to find the cause of autism caused it. To counter it we must educate more about autism & The Lancet should aggressively counter the false info they put out there. You’re doing a great service!
Remember, CNN is a worse cancer than MAGA! They think they can just fence walk their way through the decline of democracy, freedom and equality. They have oligarchs and shareholders to answer to!
I have a better headline CNN… shitty mediocre news organization continues to think that being objective towards fascism will be good for their shareholders and their millionaire garbage journalists who want to protect the billionaire oligarch class! You helped fuel this shit show!
Trump cancels cancer research but wants to waste government money on bullshit? Why not do more research on Hydroxychloroquine, Drinking Bleach, or shoving a light bulb up your ass? Trump is a loser and so is RFK.
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This research did not receive any specific grant from funding agencies in the public, commercial, or not-for-profit sectors.
We’ve been here before more than once! Stop letting the whackos waste our $$. Vaccines DO NOT cause autism!!!! And Covid vaccines don’t make you magnetic 🤦♀️
Oh FFS. Vaccines have NOTHING to do with autism. INSAR, the International Meeting for Autism Research, had zero papers/presentations on this fabricated link BY 2015. What a waste of effort and funding, what an insult to autistic people themselves, who are simply humans—neither damaged, nor diseased.
The well known RFKjr 'scientific' protocol that says if the studies and analysis already done don't give you the answer you want - pay for another one with tax payer money
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As a vaccinated autistic person, honestly, give me more of those vaccines if that's the risk. What am I gonna do? Infodump on you more about my special interests? Say the big light is too much? Not realize even harder I'm invited to the thing on Wednesday? Need me to do an autism for you? Fuck sakes
I love upsetting the neurotypicals by feigning excitement for my vaccinations so I can level up my autism. We can’t get upset they want to eradicate us, but they get indignant about autistic humor.
Vaccines may not directly cause autism, but they could indirectly. There are several environmental factors that when combined with vaccines could potentially increase the chances of a child being diagnosed with autism. I fully support this study.
More kids are being diagnosed with autism. More kids, especially black boys are being diagnosed with autism. I know several families whose kids are nonverbal. Why the sudden jump? Something is wrong somewhere. It wasn't like that when I was going up in the 90s.
I'll remain skeptical until the cure is found. If scientists were not skeptical, if they were not curious, everyone would have still be thinking the earth is flat. Things we were told were safe decades ago have been proven to cause cancer. Let the study continue.
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Canadians may have another reason not to visit the US … the border is closed due to another pandemic b/c the CDC was too busy on fairytales to see it coming
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Blatant hypocrisy.
You do not have my permission to waste my taxes —you know, the MONEY I GAVE YOU— on this horsecrap
This is a WASTE of taxpayer money, inefficient, & reinventing the wheel!
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There are studies that show correlation. But the researchers & doctors were debunked and discredited by big pharma and our government.
We waste an awful lot of money on literally ridiculous studies. Why not spend the money and put people’s minds at ease.
It's more likely linked to petrochemicals (plastics) than it is to autism, maybe they should be looking into that but then that would go against Exxon
But it's got nothing to do with vaccines
Personally I still think it's down to pollution though, most things are!
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-co-occurring conditions in autistic people for effective management, improving lives and well-being of autistic people
-why TF folks hate autistic people so much
-cure for ableism
I have numerous theories on why we’re disliked, but they make neurotypicals upset.
So a few kids get polio or the measles - at least RFK Jr. gets a chance to test his ideas.
Autism sucks.
A big one is the Madsen study found in the New England Journal of Medicine - debunks the autism link. Also try the Heron study from the UK (archived at NIH for reading).
that Wakefield piece of shit tortured children to make his paper, and then when the data didn't look like how he wanted it to he just changed it.
Antivaxxers don't care. It's not about the science, it's about the thrill of feeling smarter than everyone who listens to the consensus of global health experts and having a niche community of like-minded loons to vibe with.
https://www.mayoclinichealthsystem.org/hometown-health/speaking-of-health/autism-vaccine-link-debunked
-The Kid Rock Medical Center
-Dr Oz's Snake Oils R Us
-MyShots (CEO Mike Lindell)
-The RFK Jr Foundation
-Jenny McCarthy's Death Poke Society
-DOGE, Doctors Division
Like it's a communicable disease or something...
*The cure that they want is executing us (probably via concentration camp if I had to guess)
There are lots of differently abled people in the government. It worries me that the human purges of this regime will extend to those that see the world differently.
As the father of a daughter with severe autism who is barely verbal, self injures a lot, will never drive a car or live independently, I concur.
No one is executing anyone, histrionics aside.
Vaccines are too important for people to be afraid to take them.
Look at older fathers having children.
They need to get back to business related to vaccine approval!
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Seriously, we're doing this but cancelling real research?
I expect better.
https://www.press.jhu.edu/books/title/12040/vaccines-did-not-cause-rachels-autism?srsltid=AfmBOoqFIeiZLgKNNRXT8iapLFT_29JANQP14DK1E7hIo6MGkr-FVa-y
Musk is laying off CDC workers.
So should CDC study vaccines or the recent measles outbreak or whether bird flu can jump to people or revisit already proved evidence.
It doesn’t. It’s been studied. Extensively. This is pure waste based on speculation.
You do know what peer reviewed means right?
This research did not receive any specific grant from funding agencies in the public, commercial, or not-for-profit sectors.
The well known RFKjr 'scientific' protocol that says if the studies and analysis already done don't give you the answer you want - pay for another one with tax payer money
Is this compliant with the Doge waste elimination program (or shit program)?
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24814559/
That means there's nothing about any vaccines given the easy we give them that causes any increase in autism
There's no evidence that the actual prevalence of autism is changing at all.
https://www.statnews.com/2023/03/23/autism-epidemic-cdc-numbers/
The vast majority of autism is, at worst, neutral for the people who have it. Many consider it their superpower.
The work has been done.
Vaccines don't cause autism.
Thinking they do isn't quite as bad as flat earth, but it's real close
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