2 babies Israelites for 11000 Palestinian babies. 6 millions jews and billions of our peoples thru colonization which are your ancestors. Got it.
The promised land is all if this planet. You decide to tell us that God gave you this promised land by the authority of the british, Rothschilds . 😔
All the death is horrible. But the Palestinian apologists should remember the Palestinians chose terror over peace. From PLO rule to the orgy of death that Hamas unleashed on 10/7
Palestinians would say the same about the IDF who continue to murder maim and imprison children, as well as settlers who encroach on borders with the assistance of the state and personal political connections. If only Israel respected the humans whose land they occupy.
Whenever I wonder why the earth remains a repugnant, floating shit ball, I come across a thread like this and it all makes perfect sense. The absolute lack of humanity is chilling
You cannot believe everything that Netanyahu says. He has a vested interest in destroying Gaza. The setting up for another invasion, though hostages are being released. Don’t trust Netanyahu, he has team Trump on his side now.
This was the new text book definition of FAFO. Beating 2 babies to death isn't war. It's a war crime. Hamas either changed the rules of engagement or ignored them. Crank the machine back up and finish the job, Isreal. Literally, all the bordering countries won't deal with Hamas which should tell...
Ask Israel to stop propping up Hamas and to end their apartheid regime. That's what stops this. The average age in Gaza is 19. Those people only know suffering at the hands of an evil, racist government.
We can still be horrified that two babies were murdered. I have enough compassion for all of the losses. Two murdered babies doesn't slow down my ability to support Palestinian liberation.
With respect to these Israeli children….over 13,000 Palestinian children have been killed, compared to a handful of Israeli children. Like violent abolitionists fighting slavery, Palestinian resistance stems from deep, systemic oppression. These atrocities cannot receive the same sympathy
I could not disagree more. The governments can't receive the same levels of sympathy but the individual murdered innocent children can. Once we dehumanize the individuals, especially the children, we are fucked. On the level of a parent losing a child, the pain is equal.
Equating the life of one Israeli child to 6,500 Palestinian children is dehumanization. Every child’s life is equal, yet the staggering imbalance in deaths reveals whose lives the world values less. A parent’s grief is universal, but justice demands we acknowledge disproportionate suffering.
All trucks are automobiles, but all automobiles are not trucks.
The Nazis were a specific group with specific ideals, of which some people today are aligned, but not all racist, authoritarian, exploitative groups using the working class are Nazis.
The morally confused “whatabouting” here is astounding. I mourn these babies with my whole heart and pray for their family. This oldest and most complicated of conflicts has no easy answers but mourning the Bibas babies and ALL loss of life IS easy unless you are guided by blinding hatred.
Or unless the repeated lies of this genocidal Israeli administration has given you a strong sense of scepticism about their claims. There can be no moral ambiguity if it’s true. But what’s that? A 25% chance?
Seems like an attempt to hold Hamas accountable for what they did when they invaded a sovereign country, massacred civilians and took civilians hostage. There was a ceasefire in place on October 6.
I was not commenting on the IDF. I was referring to the author of the post who deplored the murder of the Bibas children. He was pointing out an atrocity; many comments were “what about.”
You’re right, all settlers in a settler colonial project are combatants. So everyone occupying Palestine since 1948 is fair game, including these 2 little human shields.
Attempted genocide? By killing a little over 1,000 people? Get real. That’s okay though, go ahead and put your head back up Netanyahu’s ass. You people are unbelievable.
Absolutely horrendous that these babies died, horrendous, regardless of how. But I’m too far gone with all the lies from the Israelis to take anything they say with anything other than skepticism, in fact, I don’t believe a word they say. Rest easy little ones.
Israel will never recover from this genocide. Take a look at world reaction to Zionist atrocities. The world is very tired of this race based, white supremacist, European genocide.
I’d say they recovered exceptionally well by killing almost every terrorist from both Hamas and Hezbollah. Iran is weaker today then one year ago and alliance between 🇺🇸 and 🇮🇱 is rock solid. Soon Israel will have new friends in Arab world to jointly create peace and eradicate terrorist scum.
Israel is the pariah of the world. What recovery? Hamas was propped up, empowered, and allowed to be funded by Zionist supremacists like Bibi. Saudi Arabia shit on Trump's Gaza plans. You Zionist fools think everyone is as stupid as you. Israel will never recover.
War divides. It compels division. To note the atrocities of one side alone denies humanity to the other side. This is the oldest trick in the book. The post WW2 order strove to protect HUMANITY and territorial sovereignty, in an attempt to suppress this sort of behavior. What are we becoming?
What's particularly heinous about these murders is because there wasn't a state of war, and they were taken hostage by a terrorist group during one of the worst attack in terms of numbers are cruelty for Israeli civilians. Nevertheless, the deaths of Palestinian kids is no less tragic. 💔
There wasn’t a war? Ask any Palestinian whether there wasn’t a war. For them, the war started in the 1940s and never ended. Again, when you only view things from one point of view…
If the war has been ongoing since 1948, how do you explain the non uniformity of the death rate in Gaza? How do you explain the fact that the Gaza population more than doubled during this war?
All you know is to parrot false slogans.
On October 7, Gaza committed religious suicide. Their choice.
Not an explicit state of war no. And there's no justifying this attack on the completely innocent Israelis. Careful threading here. Crucial to distinguish between government, its policies and the population. Hamas is not a group defending Palestinian freedom, it's a proxy of Iran and its ideology.
I remember seeing a video of a father trying to piece his infant daughter back together with uncontrollable tears after Israel blew her up with an air strike. As a new father whose daughter just turned 9 months old, it left me filled with rage.
Over 14,000 children BLOWN TO BITS. Say a few words.
But it really started right after Muhammad died. When the Shia and Sunni broke apart. This is a proxy war where each is using this story to advance their political ends. The partitioning was the most recent thing they can use.
So, the Zionist terror bombing campaign that killed hundreds didn't force the Brits to partition? That's not the history I read. Would you like me to share?
Nobody condones the killing of Innocents from either side
but faced with a one sided argument, people will respond
If the picture included a side by side picture of a dead Palestinian child and included the banner
"Do not look away" then those responses maybe a lot better balanced
i'm going to ask . . . why return hostages alive all week but kill a mother and her two very young children?! it makes no sense and IDF saying "it wasn't us gov" after dropping a million bombs I don't know who to believe anymore 😢😢😢
They were as innocent as them! There is no excuse for the injustice and suffering that the Palestinians have gone through in the last 70 years, but there is no justification for taking innocent kids hostage. Nobody has a monopoly on suffering! Can't we just find our humanity and mourn both?
Not saying it isn’t true - but Israel has already been proven to use fabricated stories about babies being burned alive. All while they snipe and blow up children on camera in Gaza and their soldiers sing and dance about it.
You can say it isn’t true. These two boys were crushed by rubble. The medical examiner even says that. They just say they were strangled first. Complete nonsense propaganda and shame on someone as intelligent as Scott to propagate it.
No, well I have just said I don’t know because I haven’t looked into this direct claim.
Sadly, many Americans just claim things are true with no evidence. Their media is perversely and wilfully ignorant when it comes to the facts in the Middle East.
Babies were burned alive. This is just perpetuating lies. Also, what evidence is there that they were crushed by rubble? Just you saying so? You are a joke
There was no evidence for it, other than eyewitness reports from a small Israeli cult, who the government took at their word. But funny that there was no evidence. Because there is photographic and video material for a lot of other things.
This is horrific. And has been done tens of thousands of times over by the Israeli state as well, over several decades. The lives of each of those children were precious to their loved ones and the world. I cannot look away and hope you do not either.
Concur.
Russia is doing it to Ukraine
USA did it to Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Korea, and many other countries.
Fact, US gave the bombs to Isreal to murder Palestinian citizens, including don't look away children.
War is hell...in any country.
That's the issue....war.
Thousands of kids killed by israel with us made weapons and you have never even acknowledged it. Its pathetic and beyond disingenuous. Grow a spine you fuckin’ coward.
The problem with making a post like this is that it serves to destabilize our brains into trauma responses. We cannot bring those children back. What we collectively need is access to our ‘thinking brains’ which require centering & calm. Freaking is primal, we need all power brains on board.
Why is it so hard for people to say this is bad. Killing babies is bad. You can say that while still standing by your stance against Israel. Nuance exists, people.
Easy: they’re antisemites and found an opportunity to show their ugly faces. Like every coward they hide their bigotry behind good intentions. Nazis did that too (“we need to protect our people from the evil Jews”)
Favoritism of Israel over palestine will never led them to peace. They are both responsible for this and they both need to work together to fix this. But giving Israel the upper hand has only yield more death. why do we think it would change now?
Sad news, killing children is wrong regardless of their ethnicity. This should be a memorial for all the kids killed during this war. Choosing sides in this conflict isn’t going to save them from dying. Israel is equally responsible for this as Palestine! They should be both held accountable!
As tragic as this is, Hamas was propped up, empowered, and allowed to be funded by Zionist supremacists like Netanyahu.
How many Palestinian children buried under the rubble are currently being eaten by starving dogs? Caused by bombs, missiles, and warplanes that we provided?
All of the children were and are innocent. Each one murdered, whether by Hamas or Israel, is a victim. Too many people have looked away from that fact throughout this conflict.
Scott this is awful and what has happened in Gaza is awful. Both things are true. On your podcast, you said you have lost the plot if you have to look at someone’s race (religion) to determine if an action is awful. Everyone including you should do that.
Hamas says they died due to Israel's bombings in the area where hostages were being held.
The IDF says they were "brutally murdered" with "bare hands".
There is no evidence for either claim, but one sounds more realistic to me 🤷♀️
No matter whose claims you believe, their chances of being still alive would have been greater had the cease fire started sooner. And we all know who's to blame for dragging the war for many months because his staying out of prison relies on two insane extremists with genocidal tendencies.
Propaganda. Israel was giving them that food in the first place. Hamas took that food and sold it for money to buy weapons, which they used against people giving them food.
Israel didn’t give them food. They halted aid trucks, bombed them, killed aid workers. You’re garbage is disproven by so many videos on social media. Go ahead, say that’s all propaganda and disinformation. We can see you for who you are - racist, bigoted, and a terrorist supporter.
Historically, during every single genocide that has ever happened in the entire history of our planet, stories like this get told. they are always told by the perpetrators of genocide, and they are all told specifically to dehumanize the victims of that genocide.
do you consider the beaver wars to have been a genocide in which the perpetrators at no point told stories describing the victims as being savages of some kind?
i don't know anything about this particular historical period, personally.
I did not hear of any such stories. You said every one. We rarely know enough to know if such things are true. The word genocide is ill defined. Dehumanizing an enemy is common in all wars of all sorts.
Professor. MAGA & Neoliberals will continue to distort our values and tear this country apart. Both are led by gangs of rapacious thieves who cloak themselves in grievance. We haven’t needed a new political party this badly since 1850. The world, not just America, depends upon it
I have full sympathies for the family and these children, but the publicly available information reads like propaganda, if they are going to make such emotive and sensationalist claims, they ought to back it up with forensic evidence. These bodies would have been decomposing for over a 16 months..
Even when the evindence is released, it is discounted as fake by countless people just like you. Pointless to release such evidence. Israelis have more respect for life and the affected families than to do as you suggest.
I wouldn't discount it. It's obviously not pointless otherwise they wouldn't make any statement at all. The choice of words seems to be an incitement to further atrocities. Words matter, especially when millions of people face the consequences of them, especially the families of the victims.
Hamas must be destroyed to “give peace” even “a chance”! How many more Israelis and Palestinians have to be lost before the extremists on both sides are removed from power?
I can never understand the “what about” posts. What hamas did was an unforgivable crime. IDF war crimes are also unforgivable. A defendant can’t stand up in Court and say “your honor, are you aware that other people commit crimes?” We should mourn these victims and not look away.
In our present world of misinformation, this situation lacks any 'independent' confirmation....Israel says one thing and Hamas says something else.....😥😡
So the Israeli medical examiners can determine that these poor children were strangled to death and then crushed with rubble to simulate a death by missile strike?
Stick to economics if you’re so easily tricked by Zionist propaganda. This is just going to be used to justify full annexation.
If this is true, it is absolutely repugnant and morally indefensible. But we no longer believe anything that Israeli officials say, after the claims of mass rape, the Bond villain lairs under hospitals. They lie, and they lie, and they lie. Because they’re genocidists seeking a casus belli.
Yes, it's an awful thing if true. If it's used to justify continued wholesale violence against civilians, then it's a betrayal of their innocence. One evil shouldn't justify another. That's how these endless battles continue.
When the last hostages are released to the International Red Cross and the vans are a safe distance, US should send a few B52s to those HAMAs "spectators" and fullfill their martydom.
Perhaps they shouldn’t have colonized somewhere they didn’t belong and commit a genocide against the people who lived there and then for some reason not expect resistance to said occupation?
I believe Hamas should be wiped off the face this planet, but I'm not sure killing 46,000 Palestinians is the way to go. There were a lot of innocent and women killed in this conflict. I am also a firm believer that Israel has a right to exist and defend themselves.
Holding two things in my head (at least) at the same time. Taking and killing babies and little kids was criminal by Hamas. Carpet bombing thousands of Gaza kids and starving the survivors by IDF, also criminal.
It’s a tragedy when a child is killed, but it’s weird to demand people focus on 2 specific deaths when 100’s of times more Palestinian children have murdered? you should examine why you feel the loss of Israeli children are more tragic, when all children killed in this conflict are horrific losses
No disrespect and I fully agree, but this is part of the problem, it’s always what about? It’s like two spoiled children fighting on the playground except with far worse consequences. I wish I had answers but only have observations.
I agree, that’s my point… It seems bizarre to me to identify where a murdered child is from like that makes their death more of a tragedy. A murdered child is an unspeakable tragedy, I don’t understand why anyone would care where they come from, except for the sadly obvious reason they would care
Scott when you highlight the awful and tragic and unforgivable murder of two Israeli children, you devalue the lives of the 14,500 children who have been murdered in Gaza.
I'm not looking away. How many lives will sate the Israelis' desire for revenge? And then, how many lives for the Palestinians? The misery goes on and on. And none of it will bring any of those lives back.
Mr. Galloway. Either you care for all babies and innocent people and their families' grief, or you're making yourself blind. Where is the evidence to justify this post? Please don't fall into the vortex of misinformation and promoting hate.
Amazed at the amount of hate spewed in the comments here. Amazing how the Palliwood propaganda has taken root within the American public. The use of the word “genocide” has been normalized and accepted as true. Thank you, Scott, for bringing attention to this.
I'm definitely not taking any post on the internet at face value. If it's true, sure, both sides are acting like animals after all. Not really surprising either way.
Growing up requires maturity. Palestinians are caught in the crossfire or two groups of barbaric animals. This isn’t a both sides argument, rather a recognition that war itself is the problem. Kindly reexamine yourself.
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If trump's officials are trustworthy, why are Netanyahu's?
Just saying...
The promised land is all if this planet. You decide to tell us that God gave you this promised land by the authority of the british, Rothschilds . 😔
Two sides to every coin....
Now flip it....
Finish it.
They lied about 99% of the things they claimed
A party of bigots for bigots who hated, but used, the working class (of which I’m a proud member).
Created an authoritarian state that controlled every aspect of life. Used propaganda to spread Hitler’s Weltanschauung. Militaristic. Racist. Failed
The Nazis were a specific group with specific ideals, of which some people today are aligned, but not all racist, authoritarian, exploitative groups using the working class are Nazis.
Children: murdered.
Mother: murdered.
Grandparents: murdered.
Father: released after 500 days of torture.
Asking for every Republican Christian supporter of Musk and Trump...
I just lost a little t of respect for you.
One sided garbage.
The terrorist are Zionists.
Now do one about all the children and women in Gaza being executed by Israeli snipers
Just as I have not looked away from Gaza.
How about you?
All you know is to parrot false slogans.
On October 7, Gaza committed religious suicide. Their choice.
Over 14,000 children BLOWN TO BITS. Say a few words.
You either care about all babies or none at all..
Shame on all of you honestly
but faced with a one sided argument, people will respond
If the picture included a side by side picture of a dead Palestinian child and included the banner
"Do not look away" then those responses maybe a lot better balanced
Sadly, many Americans just claim things are true with no evidence. Their media is perversely and wilfully ignorant when it comes to the facts in the Middle East.
I don't condone murder, but I certainly don't believe anything Israel says either.
Zionists are Nazis.
Russia is doing it to Ukraine
USA did it to Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Korea, and many other countries.
Fact, US gave the bombs to Isreal to murder Palestinian citizens, including don't look away children.
War is hell...in any country.
That's the issue....war.
How many Palestinian children buried under the rubble are currently being eaten by starving dogs? Caused by bombs, missiles, and warplanes that we provided?
You looked away..
The IDF says they were "brutally murdered" with "bare hands".
There is no evidence for either claim, but one sounds more realistic to me 🤷♀️
Get your emotional unproven garbage out of here.
i don't know anything about this particular historical period, personally.
Stick to economics if you’re so easily tricked by Zionist propaganda. This is just going to be used to justify full annexation.
Where is the proof?
Coz IsreHell has a history of making shit up & outright lying so…. I want receipts.
Otherwise, this is right wing propaganda.
Free Palestine
Right to Return
When Hind Rajab was killed after asking for help.
When Noor’s grandfather held her limp body.
When Sidra hung from the wall with half her body hanging from a wall.
When countless hospitals and safe zones were bombed.
Not looking away now.
Remember beheaded babies and babies in ovens? That Biden trotted out on national TV without any proof?
Soooooooo… literally made up bullshit? ✅
So sad! I can even imagine what they went through. I hope they find the remains of their mother.
https://bsky.app/profile/jtzfat.bsky.social/post/3lipeufxp3s2z
Photo of dark skinned dead = hateful propaganda of people in need of a good old fashioned genocide.
America and its so-called media in a nutshell.
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