Hospital and emergency room patients diagnosed with cannabis use disorder died at almost three times the rate of individuals without the disorder over the next five years, according to a new study, the largest on the subject.
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I consume cannabis on a daily (but limited) basis, it benefits me in many ways. I can still see that both my BIL & a long term ex are addicted & likely suffer from this disorder (inter alia, both retch/vomit daily for no reason)
Whenever I read a story like this I wonder whether it's because of the lifestyle that those who have cannabis use disorder, I.E stoners for whether it's from the smoking of the marijuana itself.
Research Leriche Syndrome. This used to affect only older people, but since a decade also people in their thirties and forties who started to use cannabis during puberty. My daughter almost died of it. Don't start smoking cannabis before your body is fully developed!
well, as a psychology specialist, if you had to come off it and really see what horrors of reality are real, your body and mind will go real quick I would suppose
The NYT is a conservative magazine. In the 1980s, when Reagan's Contras murdered and raped a bunch of nuns, the NYT buried the story but front paged the pope being shot.
This has nothing to do with cannabis. These are people who are unable to stop harmful behaviors. Cannabis isn't toxic. So it isn't killing them; the article claims harm but then provides zero evidence. Researchers correlate cannabis so they can create hysteria and get more funding.
I grew up in Hawaii, 60's and 70's. Pakalolo WAS a thing. Growers would hang cables between trees to wreck snooping helicopters! I suggest doing this study in Hawaii. I smoked more than my fair share while growing up so there has to be some data to discover.
The good part is hidden further down:
"Those numbers suggest that cannabis use disorder is about half as dangerous as opioid addiction and slightly less dangerous than alcohol use disorder, the researchers said."
I’m paywalled, but very curious to see what confounding variables they looked at (depression can be linked to habitual drug use AND lower life expectancy)
Oh, it gets better!
"... the study could not conclusively determine whether the cannabis itself increased death risk, or whether it was other lifestyle or health factors that happen to be more common among heavy cannabis users."
What’s to “hide?” They never suggest cannabis use disorder is nearly as harmful as OUD or AUD. And EVERY retrospective study like this issues a caution about inferring causality.
“Although it is possible to experience negative side effects from marijuana… the drug is considered generally safe and non-life threatening. Despite the fact that alcohol is legal… it can be dangerous and deadly in both the short & the long term.”
Rare, I’d say. However, I’ll also add that I think modern strains of cannabis are far too strong for daily use. The strong stuff should be used for topical applications, and new strains should be developed for lower cannabinoid levels for a daily use product.
It was considered a drug until the colonizers came here. The war of 1813 in Toronto was fought over hemp,north America was the largest supplier of hemp for rope making purposes,the world's ships depended on hemp rope.
Makes putting up with colonization better...
Yes, pot is addictive just like booze, heroin, meth, etc. I personally know someone who went into psychosis from it, and he's not a rare case. It's been linked to schizophrenia. There's Marijuana anonymous for a reason. #sober
Cannabis has a very low addiction rate compared to the others. The people who have a small chance for addiction are the ones who smoke it 24/7 and then try to stop. Psychosis from cannabis is actually very rare.
New research raises concerns—patients with cannabis use disorder had nearly thrice greater mortality rates over five years. As legalisation spreads, are we missing severe health risks? 🌿⚠️ #Cannabis #HealthStudy#PublicHealth#MedicalResearch
Interesting that science is on the back burner for Trump administration, yet this study comes out. Mind you, I haven't read it to see its sample size, participants, who funded it and the level of clinical significance or efficacy, but the timing is interesting, nonetheless.
No such thing. This is a ghost campaign to try and over turn legalization of weed. Funny how all of a sudden these articles are coming out in force. I've done my research. 20+ years. Maybe lung issues but not this B.S.
NYT wants you to pay. However this exact article has been used in other news media outlets. I've read 2 or 3 of these articles lately. claiming pot is bad for you now. It's B.S.kinda funny these articles are pushed at the same time Christian Nationalist try to take over.things that makes you go HMmm
"[...] cannabis use disorder is about half as dangerous as opioid addiction and slightly less dangerous than alcohol [...]"
So per article, Cannabis-users' addiction rate is at 30%. Depending on source, tobacco-users' addiction rate is 80% or higher. Higher risk of death surely needs context too.
I'm sure that the new admin asked the NYT to start putting this into the world so people will be more compliant when the War on Drugs 2.0 begins in earnest.
This is clearly triggering a lot of people who can’t see beyond their own experience. Pot is not a cure all safe product. It harms a lot of people. It also harms a lot of relationships. I see it with my clients all the time.
The NYTimes ginning up support for a tried and true pretext for expanding the pool of unpaid laborers in private prisons? How William Randolph Hearst of you.
The article reeks thru & thru.
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There’s nothing healthy about getting stoned, eating a bag of Doritos, drinking a quart of Coke and watching 6 hours of Prime Target.
Like social media, people who need help with emotional and mental stress turn to cannabis. How much of this is a result of the underlying conditions versus the cannabis itself? These articles are fear mongering, and we have enough to fear these days. Where's the real news?
I have never heard of cannabis use disorder.
I have never heard of anyone being hospitalized for cannabis use.
I have never heard of anyone becoming physically ill because they didn't have cannabis.
An issue we have here in UK is that NHS does not care or note down whether the substance was herbal cannabis or a synthetic bathtub product.
While its illegal there are no contents on the packs - details of CBD:THC ratio would be good.
We'd look for the word 'Organic' if we had the choice.
People here have been stomach pumped @ A&E because cannabis the ate terrified them so much they thought they were dying!
Home remedies we have been told of for cannabis over consumption include drink water or OJ, chew peppercorns, breathe slowly, walk in nature and/or listen to music. Reassure them.
You are correct. The article didn't differentiate between smoking or edible cannabis. Nor did it give particulars about symptoms or guidelines used to diagnose the disorder.
Overdosing on anything will cause a reaction. It doesn't mean that it is a disorder.
unfortunately Cannabis Hyperemsis Syndrome is a rare but becoming more frequent disorder. I didn't believe it either until I started interviewing people who have it for my podcast. Happy to share info if you're curious.
It's more about the THC interacting with the receptors. Some people are super sensitive and their receptors get overworked and dysregulated. Def no need to worry unless you start to feel weird. Here's some info: https://youtu.be/Baebg6fKNJw?si=G6nWUM5BZvSiCn6Y
Listened to a podcast this morning on this very subject. First off, it’s real. While research is still ongoing, there appear to be correlations with higher dose strains and potentially dabs & vapes. The onset is fairly sudden and shows up as nausea and vomitting. It may be due to one’s physiology.
Not hearing about something doesn't really mean anything. There are a bunch of medical issues that have come up. Cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome (CHS) is pretty gross. Might have been a result of concentrates concentrating things other than cannabis but it's a real issue.
Okay. So you were today years old when you learned there was something called a cannabis use disorder. And the problem you suggest doesn’t exist is significantly higher mortality. How is that not a problem?
Cannabis excess is less harmful than alcohol or opioid abuse but heavy use over extended time with more potent strains can lead to cyclical vomiting. Some ppl refuse to believe this but it is an increasing occurrence. Not telling anyone not to do anything b/c of that, just be aware.
I’ve already had a gastro dr try to tell me I had this even after my gastroscopy revealed nothing. Some doctors want to keep pushing opioids. I do know someone who had CHS but mine turned out to be a gallstone.
I hear you, 100%, I just think it’s silly and annoying when ppl try to deny there are some side effects to high cannabis use. Being honest abt downsides to any drug is how a healthy society should talk about drugs, IMO
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I consume cannabis on a daily (but limited) basis, it benefits me in many ways. I can still see that both my BIL & a long term ex are addicted & likely suffer from this disorder (inter alia, both retch/vomit daily for no reason)
hey NYT, FU.
"Those numbers suggest that cannabis use disorder is about half as dangerous as opioid addiction and slightly less dangerous than alcohol use disorder, the researchers said."
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2829914?utm_source=For_The_Media&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=ftm_links&utm_term=020625
"... the study could not conclusively determine whether the cannabis itself increased death risk, or whether it was other lifestyle or health factors that happen to be more common among heavy cannabis users."
Always want to know are they religious bible thumpers.
How about how many people die from aspirin yearly? Causes around 3K deaths and 20,000 3,000 major bleeds annually.
Everything on Earth has the potential to kill you.
https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/drugs-medication/cannabis/health-effects/addiction.html
What cigarette company funded the article for y’all!?
https://www.addictioncenter.com/alcohol/alcohol-marijuana/
How many people in those ER's die of alcohol related illnesses?
Makes putting up with colonization better...
So per article, Cannabis-users' addiction rate is at 30%. Depending on source, tobacco-users' addiction rate is 80% or higher. Higher risk of death surely needs context too.
However
There’s nothing healthy about getting stoned, eating a bag of Doritos, drinking a quart of Coke and watching 6 hours of Prime Target.
Cannabis has been in use for over 25,000 years.
LOL
Stop giving people cocaine and calling it pill.
Suicide, family approved.
I have never heard of anyone being hospitalized for cannabis use.
I have never heard of anyone becoming physically ill because they didn't have cannabis.
This study is a solution looking for a problem.
While its illegal there are no contents on the packs - details of CBD:THC ratio would be good.
We'd look for the word 'Organic' if we had the choice.
Home remedies we have been told of for cannabis over consumption include drink water or OJ, chew peppercorns, breathe slowly, walk in nature and/or listen to music. Reassure them.
Overdosing on anything will cause a reaction. It doesn't mean that it is a disorder.
Not really concerned about it. Lord knows there's so many other things. But I am curious about edibles being a major factor.
I learned something new.