Leaked group chat messages, like this excerpt, provide a rare and revealing look at the Trump administration's private conversations on national security issues. See our full annotation of the messages here. https://nyti.ms/4l4uxui
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A few annotations of my own:
- [opening] Trump didn’t “downplay” it, he lied. Repeatedly.
- [Hegseth, 8:49 Fri] The language re Europe will make his next meeting “dicey”? We were well past dicey weeks before this massive fuckup.
- [Hegseth, 11:44 Sat] Gabbard “mischaracterized”? She lied.
- [Hegseth 11:44 Sat] Whitehouse is “walking a pretty difficult line”? They are LYING. They are lying about the lies. They are lying ALL. THE. TIME.
- [Waltz 5:15 Sat] “Deflect” = gaslight. “Embarrassing and problematic” = horrible and illegal
They should be prosecuted and imprisoned! The USA is part of NATO, and their actions are not only jeopardizing the United States but the entire alliance.
In Europe,we are concerned about our safety as well.This is not just about politics; it's about the stability and security of the entire alliance.
1/2 I was in the military. I worked on crypto machines. When a machine had a change to the maintenance manual I had to sign out the packet. Go to a room alone. Open the packet that contained the page sandwiched between 2 pieces if cardstock and two blank pages.
2/2 Make the change, put the old sheet back the same way as the new was received and sign it back into the vault where it awaited incineration. Kinda thinking they are full of it. I only had a secret clearance.
Signalgate perfectly encapsulates how DUI Fratboy's head enlarged after the loudmouth Natl Guard weekend Fox host got his SECDEF dream job & ws able to fire Generals & high ranking JAGs, cut $580 million in Defense programs & contracts & then some. The woefully unqualified bully couldn't wait to 1/
show off his knowledge of the attack on Houthis to the group, like an immature teen trying desperately to fit in to be one of the kool guys. Some chat members obviously did not have a need-to-know, but a former insignificant part-time warrior who's now the Head of forces & doesn't care abt OPSEC, 2/
was recklessly, cavalierly, gleefully sharing highly classified ops to whomever would listen. His inexperience is so obvious by him not saying to move to a SCIF environment before he blabbed his security-breaching mouth off. All of them on that thread except the journalist are lazy, arrogant, 3/
irresponsible, feel entitled & are unserious abt a serious national security matter. Their uncalled-for ad hominem attacks on the hero journalist is straight out of the Roy Cohn/Trump playbook of never accepting blame & viciously smearing the truth teller. Their continued lies, double standards, 4/
lack of remorse, disdain for the rule of law & compliance with regulation & refusal to accept responsibility are an insult to the millions of current & former military, federal civil service & contractor personnel who abided by the strict classified material handling & disclosure reqmts. Shameful.
Why do important articles reside behind a paywall?
i know there's $$ needed but these are critical times & truthful reporting should be available to everyone! why, at this time in history, would you charge for every revealing article while right-wing media & publications are free? FIND A WAY!
My husband, musing about flying Cobra missions over Cambodia while Nixon declared we were not in Cambodia, wonders how safe he would have felt knowing a braggadocio like Pete Hegseth was at the helm.
then Karoline on her press-conference speech will say that it was Biden who added a journalist to the chat and it was Kamala who used emojis remotely through Waltz's phone. And we all should be grateful. And one more thing - Trump is the new black.
Yup its happening.
Canada and UK are currently excluding the USA from any future intelligence briefings and updates, while trump is in office.
By excluding the USA, the alliance has gone from a 5-EYES alliance to a 4-EYES alliance.
At no point does it occur to any of these incompetent a$$holes that ending the war on Gaza and reinstating the ceasefire would make this whole operation redundant .
Is our operative who had eyes on the situation being tortured in Yemen right now (the one who saw and reported that the target was entering his girlfriend's home, and then verified the home was bombed)? You know Yemen is looking for (or found) who could have provided that info.
Is our operative who had eyes on the situation being tortured in Yemen right now (the one who saw and reported that the target was entering his girlfriend's home, and then verified the home was bombed)? You know Yemen is looking for (or found) who could have provided that info.
Godspeed to our warriors? As a warrior I say FU. You're gonna kill us all. Every soldier in this country knows you all are putting us in grave danger. If you lose our trust you lose everything.
Good luck with that.
I'm willing to believe, as per the claims by the drinky-fella-from-fox, that he actually believes he did not reveal any war plans or classified info, but, then, that in itself makes him unfit
Not a real professional in the bunch. A bunch of incompetent, insecure amateurs trying to convince themselves that they're in waaaaay over their heads. Emojis for Christ's sake: they think they're still in high school.
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Mayhaps a dedicated hearing with everyone on the chat?
- [opening] Trump didn’t “downplay” it, he lied. Repeatedly.
- [Hegseth, 8:49 Fri] The language re Europe will make his next meeting “dicey”? We were well past dicey weeks before this massive fuckup.
- [Hegseth, 11:44 Sat] Gabbard “mischaracterized”? She lied.
1/2
- [Waltz 5:15 Sat] “Deflect” = gaslight. “Embarrassing and problematic” = horrible and illegal
2/2
In Europe,we are concerned about our safety as well.This is not just about politics; it's about the stability and security of the entire alliance.
i know there's $$ needed but these are critical times & truthful reporting should be available to everyone! why, at this time in history, would you charge for every revealing article while right-wing media & publications are free? FIND A WAY!
Is there anyone in this fiefdom to stop him from using them? Nope. A big fat nope.
I don’t think everyone goes to the bunker though. Learned this from the West Wing.
The general public are told to hide in their basements. 🙄
The racist, rapist gameshow host’s administration is even more stupid and sadistic than you thought you knew they were.
Canada and UK are currently excluding the USA from any future intelligence briefings and updates, while trump is in office.
By excluding the USA, the alliance has gone from a 5-EYES alliance to a 4-EYES alliance.
"We don't trust USA"
https://www.canzukinternational.com/2025/03/uk-advocates-for-canzuk-intelligence-alliance.html
Good luck with that.
Just when I think you feckless cowards can't be a bigger joke.
Did Trump *succeed* in obscuring anything?
I don't think so
Story goes into details but I would not even get close to suggesting Trump succeeded yet
Too often NYT or Post heds said Harris tried or attempted
While Trump just acted and did >