Tom Nichols, @radiofreetom.bsky.social, get it exactly right. Don't let the toadies spin it any other way. Yesterday was the crudest public display of bullying ever seen by the US. www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archiv... - ThreadSky

ilvestoomas.bsky.social • 2 days ago

Tom Nichols, @radiofreetom.bsky.social, get it exactly right.

Don't let the toadies spin it any other way. Yesterday was the crudest public display of bullying ever seen by the US.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/02/ukraine-us-relations-trump/681880/?gift=ikAS-C-fUpVcb3BUmsypvl-5LN9zTTmlcUNJcC0kRmI&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

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nananancy.bsky.social•2 days ago

The USA is currently led by evil, "little men."

4animallife.bsky.social•2 days ago

The last three paragraphs gave me a chill, because I know they're true. I worry for us all, esp Ukraine and my native Canada, that Trump wants to "annex".

First time in my life I've ever been seriously scared for our sovereignty and safety here in Canada. He's insane enough to try it.

commandokaz.bsky.social•2 days ago

too bad it wasn't a hockey game. zelenskyy could have dropped his gloves and taken out donold, jd, and rubio

jastucaz.bsky.social•2 days ago

Yes.

myanulrich.bsky.social•2 days ago

We can see it with our own eyes.
There was a Russian reporter there to be the eyes of Putin.

johanmoor.bsky.social•2 days ago

Unstable idiot can always surprise you. There is no end or bottom for his/its crudest or vulgarest...

queenbeejdl.bsky.social•2 days ago

And they’re doing it for Putin which makes it worse. This is what Putin wants. It doesn’t matter if it’s a contract signed in blood and guaranteed by a VHS tape or not. They parrot the same lines and Trump acts according to Putin’s preferences.

cmaxmost.bsky.social•2 days ago

if we actually had a seen government, he'd be impeached immediately. This all goes back to his first administration when the GOP let him off the hook for threatening, intimidating, and menacing Zelensky about investigating Biden. When you let a bully off the hook, they just get worse.

kathyresists.bsky.social•2 days ago

Agree 💯

alannarl.bsky.social•2 days ago

It looked to me like Trump and his team are trying to vilify Zelensky so that their base will follow along when they side with Putin.

ne1970.bsky.social•2 days ago

I’ve never seen a VP speak out like that in a televised meeting before. Usually they just sit there and be quiet.

andrew-ukraine.bsky.social•2 days ago

In the words of the respected British journalist Adam Boulton:

“JD Vance is a piece of shit”

America, please wipe this vile piece of shit off the bottom of your shoe, or we will have to oppose you.

Here in Ukraine, people are in shock - and supporting their president.

sundancer04.bsky.social•2 days ago

AMBUSH, SETUP, SABOTAGE, UNPROFESSIONAL, undiplomatic, disgraceful, shameful...

human-on-marz.bsky.social•2 days ago

The rump is Putin's toady and will never help Ukraine... Period! The sooner Ukraine and the rest of Europe accept it and stop expending energy and resources in that direction, the better it will be for them in the long run.

human-on-marz.bsky.social•2 days ago

Imo, Europe needs to step up for their own security. This is not just Ukraine's war anymore. Entire Europe is under threat. They need to take two bold steps:
1. Either kick US out of NATO, or form a new European defense alliance, which includes European NATO resources.

human-on-marz.bsky.social•2 days ago

2. Automatically include Ukraine into NATO or the new alliance, and all the privileges that come with it.

nonnamilly.bsky.social•2 days ago

I literally cried in my car listening.

scribemarjie.bsky.social•2 days ago

And this is why we love and respect Tom, music aside.

lesliesiskin.bsky.social•2 days ago

And the best illustration of how to respond to bullies

meredith-keith.bsky.social•2 days ago

Didn't TASS sneak into the oval for this?

Wasn't this a staged ambush for an audience of one, in the Kremlin?

tombucsfan.bsky.social•2 days ago

Yes they did. AP and Reuters were not allowed. It happened before in 2017 when Tass but not the US press was allowed to see Trump and Lavrov meeting. Trump toadies are saying they kicked Tass out of the 2025 meeting when they discovered they were there. I don't believe it.

tombucsfan.bsky.social•2 days ago

When all you have is their word without any other evidence, assume they are lying.

bodhibulldog.bsky.social•2 days ago

I think we need to be clear here. What happened yesterday was not “putting America first,” as Trump cronies are saying. In fact, Americans took a major hit on freedom yesterday. The world took a major hit on freedom yesterday. It’s time to start doing something about this.

back295.bsky.social•2 days ago

Did Linda McMahon teach this tag-team strategy to Trump and Vance?

joerenaud.bsky.social•2 days ago

No, it was Stormy.

haroldhg1.bsky.social•2 days ago

It's the single most embarrassing moment in US history.

This country has fu¢ked up a lot over the years - the Vietnam War, W's Iraq Debacle - but those disasters unfolded over time.

This one took 5 minutes and it was all televised.

Trump and Vance basically committed treason on live TV.

deaconblues24.bsky.social•2 days ago

Performance art before getting ink on paper. What dealmakers! Now Zelensky can cut the deal with the EU, they get the minerals, their workers get the jobs & sell them the arms, the EU is united with Ukraine, and after next week’s sanctions, Trump will be alone with Putin, with a crashing economy.

asiegel.bsky.social•2 days ago

Incredibly grim, perhaps grimmest in US history, and sadly likely to get “grimmer” under the Musk-Trump-Vance-DOGE-GOP treasonous mafia cabal.

https://bsky.app/profile/asiegel.bsky.social/post/3ljbjrtar722f

patsam.bsky.social•2 days ago

One is a hero who stands up and fights for his country. The other is an orange stain on our history. If his party had any integrity left they would impeach and jail him as the traitor he is.

noreligion4me.bsky.social•2 days ago

terrapinjoe56.bsky.social•2 days ago

The fact that the President felt the need to bring in the Vice President to try to confront Zelensky further confirms the high level of BitchAssness (COWARDICE) present in his DNA. Everyday he signals to the world that he is Putin's puppet. Damage is being done every day these fools are in office.

cormac27.bsky.social•2 days ago

Zelenskyy, a giant among pygmys. A new level of evil in the white House.

joerenaud.bsky.social•2 days ago

Yes, a calculated shitshow by the crudest impresario on earth.

nanahel17.bsky.social•2 days ago

This feels like a nightmare from which we can’t wake up. Like the worst of Covid on steroids. Cannot get my head around fact that Trump and cronies were elected again-and that they are defiling every principle that defines the USA.

tombucsfan.bsky.social•2 days ago

The one question I will never be able to answer is how Trump was able to convince Cuban Americans that Trump's attempt to establish a casino in Havana in the 90s and his 30 plus years of business ties with Russia was never a deal breaker to anti-communist conservatives.

gill-h.bsky.social•2 days ago

Bullying isn’t diplomacy, and Zelenskyy played it right; don’t get sucked in, just let the bully show his own insecurities and yes - all on TV for the world to see how low tRump and Vance can get.

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