I think the point is we need *something* encourages more folks to keep in touch with the phenomenon they’re studying. I will say that I definitely have my own bias given experiences with clinical psychologists who haven’t actually interacted with the patients they study in well over a decade 🥴 - ThreadSky

drmindyws.bsky.social • 515 days ago

I think the point is we need *something* encourages more folks to keep in touch with the phenomenon they’re studying. I will say that I definitely have my own bias given experiences with clinical psychologists who haven’t actually interacted with the patients they study in well over a decade 🥴

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cherilev.bsky.social•515 days ago

I agree totally. Internship is broken AND I really cannot stress how important it feels to me that trainees get deep first hand knowledge in the psychopathology they are researching

Really we should just pay people more- so the real problem is the billionaires hoarding money… just saying…

davidrozekphd.bsky.social•515 days ago

Yes!

drmindyws.bsky.social•515 days ago

We’re just hanging out over here practicing our dialectics 😂

cherilev.bsky.social•515 days ago

💯

emilielacroix.bsky.social•515 days ago

In Canada there is a movement toward patient-oriented research, including grant opportunities for research that includes meaningful engagement with patient partners. In my lab we’re setting up a Research Advisory Council so ppl w/lived experience can help set these priorities.

emilielacroix.bsky.social•515 days ago

Over and above the internship I did once, ongoing engagement and accountability to people with lived experience will do a heck of a lot more to ensure that our research is actually useful to people.

aidangcw.bsky.social•515 days ago

Yeah. That’s critical. It’s probably entirely unrelated to internship. I only raised this because overhauling or getting rid of current internship model seems like a given, has to happen, but let’s also talk about potential consequences.

drmindyws.bsky.social•515 days ago

*that encourages—when are we getting an edit option?

lluaces.bsky.social•515 days ago

Then maybe we should reward people that do clinically useful work and penalize work that is “sexy” but not useful. I just don’t think forcing people to do an extra year of underpaid work is not the way to help, ESPECIALLY if people don’t want to do the clinical work.

aidangcw.bsky.social•515 days ago

We should penalize them by making them repeat internship.

lluaces.bsky.social•515 days ago

😂😂😂 I was thinking maybe in grant and paper reviews but that works too

aidangcw.bsky.social•515 days ago

Guaranteed to work

drmindyws.bsky.social•515 days ago

Oh don’t get me wrong. We could totally do away with internship. Just thinking through how to make sure clinical training is still integrated. $26K/year to work 50+ hours per week with NO benefits (when I was on internship)—Burn. It. Down.

davidrozekphd.bsky.social•515 days ago

It’s terrible that we have this going on 😞

josephineau.bsky.social•514 days ago

Not to mention how much $$ and pain it was to fly all around the country pre-COVID. There were people who simply couldn't afford paying for the travel and lodging and were forced to wait/give up. Thank God that has changed. People definitely didn't think this through then. We gotta do better now.

drmindyws.bsky.social•514 days ago

Yes. I didn’t even match phase I. So can I get my $3500 back? 😅😭

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