I got my flu shot in October, and I got the flu in January, and I was crushed. Hospital said it was Influenza A, but not which type. And that my vaccination wasn't effective against the strain I had.
You don't want this one.
H3N2 strain covers for an Asian strain. This strain devastated India in 2022. It’s rare to have Indian strains in vaccines. Brisbane, Yamagata & other pacific strains are what is used. Been following flu epidemiology since 2002. Disabled APRN. king KRASNOV won’t be happy. It’s the KGB code for Don.
Just read where Chinese researchers just discovered a new coronavirus in bats that has a higher potential to infect humans. Just in time for trump's new covid cures. Get yours today!
That Paris meeting just held, decided we get quarantined if it jumps. No ships, no planes and Mexico and Canada will close borders. Trying to get to Cali for my parents, but may go farther south. Full time RV, we have the means.
Didn’t fit typical “flu” bcuz no fever but HA/cough/asthma exacerbation and fatigue. No body aches no GI symptoms-but I have felt like 💩 x a week…BUT don’t feel like it’s really contagious because family have NOT gotten it. But I began to feel bad the day after a family baby shower…so go figure.
My 4yo granddaughter tan a fever for 5 days in a row with typeA. Oddly, she lives with me and slept with me and I did not get it... but I did feel coldish, fatigued, and a constant little headache for several days running.
My hospital is still sending any positive influenza A specimens to the Wisconsin State Lab of Hygiene for subtyping on any patients who are hospitalized with influenza.
Could you post the link to the article in the original tweet, rather than as a reply? It's really challenging to share information when there isn't a checkable source in the original tweet. Thank you!
El Demente Naranja has replaced all the heads of Government Organisations with unqualified and questionable individuals. He feels Vivid unfairly prevented his second term, with no obvious concern for the losses of life. This time around he won't have the same problem. They will all fall in line.
Y’all better knock on all the wood! I got Covid for the first time last fall (I’m an early childhood educator so I was shocked I made it that long), then this sick season I got norovirus, flu for the first time ever and last week RSV.
How plausible is the theory that a lot of the positive flu A cases this winter have been bird flu? That it’s already been spreading human to human? I’m a teacher and this sick season reminds me of 2019/2020. And in hindsight we wonder how much was covid before we *knew* about covid
I am a teacher with this exact same question. I've never seen this level of sickness and spread in 30 years (except for 20 and 21) Middle schoolers are sick enough to be taken to the Dr. and are getting diagnosed with flu A. There were days where attendance was down 40%.
I’m a professional medical coder for a large hospital system. This last month I have been coding so much flu a – sometimes people are symptomatic and sometimes they’re not. When they are symptomatic it involves into some kind of pneumonia.
Prediction: As cases of H5N1 bird flu rise in the human population, Trump will say we have nothing to worry about. Just as he did with COVID. Then he’ll blame China. And his brain-worm HHS Secretary will resist vaccine development.
We’re going to need to somehow work around and or ignore HHS. It falls to universities, state departments of health, other countries’ national health services. Vaccine tourism to Canada?
I am in FL. There will be
No influenza, avian or otherwise.
And if there is, we will
Never know it. If you don’t test, your numbers are better.
Please feel free to join us in our disease free state.
🤷♀️🫤
I do love it and I live here by choice. It has not always been like this and I remain hopeful (and working on it) that it will change. It is beautiful and there LOTs of wonderful, smart people who have good hearts, morals and their heads are on straight 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
I never give up
Hope to be blue!!
I love the place where I grew up. marshes, rivers and the gulf will always be part of my makeup. They're intrinsic to who I am.
The people around me though, they were never very accepting of different folks and they have became even less so in the last decade. It's hard to reconcile.
No, not really anymore. FL has gotten too extreme not to be able to get home insurance for so many...Tampa, a top 10 city on Medicaid... so many will suffer if he is not stopped.
Totally agreed. I was being sarcastic.
I come from a multi-generational Florida family and have watched the culture of my home shift more and more red and become unaccepting to difference I am scared for all of the vulnerable people here. It's going to be awful for so many. 😞
I'm atleast forth gen Florida born and raised and I'm trying to escape. My entire family is here and they don't understand why I want to move. Ugh. The hurricanes were enough to make me dislike living here but the governor and maga seals the deal
I'm in a similar situation. My family was here since roughly around 1900. Most of my family, including my eldest son are maga. That's a confusing and difficult road to navigate.
I'm disabled so leaving is not really an option unless some of my adult kiddos decide to go somewhere else, then I would.
I’ve been asking about this for a while. Given the severity of the current influenza A and it’s propensity to be associated with pneumonia, it seems like it should be done…
This strain hit India hard 3 years ago. H3 is highly infectious with a higher mortality rate than typical flu. In 2005, the mortality rate for the H3N2 pandemic was estimated to be between 0.02–0.03%
Covid was 5. Avian flu is 50. Spanish Flu~15% max. It targets heart and lungs of young and old.
I know I have had patients on ECMO from the flu and had them in the OR to have an LVAD placed as a bridge to transplant due to post viral cardiomyopathy. Had many more on ECMO from Covid. I shudder to think what will happen if H5N1 becomes human to human… if it already hasn’t.
IKR?! My BFF is RN and did cardio at Yale. She’s a floor manager now. I am on a BB for migraines, 200 mg Toprol xl, but seriously think I have POTS breaking trough. Delta strain survivor. Going to UCLA for covid care KY and no one can do for me. Miss my APRN life. H3N2 is cardiotoxic too.
I’m sorry you’re dealing with all of that. I hope UCLA can give you some answers and effective solutions. I know several people who were dx with POTS post Covid. I got peripheral neuropathy. I’ve seen a lot of vasculitis from Covid too. I miss my APRN life so much but not sure it’s worth the risk.
No. Yale has published that. It’s the number of unvaxed~ over 100 million based on 77 million Shitler voters and fam are now anti vax. I have followed flu Subtyping since becoming an APRN in 02. Worked at decade for Yale. Epidemiologists are who you want to follow.
My 83 year old husband spent 4 days in hospital with Type A last month. We had our annual flu shots 10/14/2024. His diagnosis was confirmed by nasal swab.
Considering how many more deaths would occur if there were to be a bird flu pandemic, the stubbornness of the current administration would literally cause a catastrophe comparable to the black plague.
No kidding. The deadly D1.1 strain makes covid look like a cake walk with its 52% CFR. The man in Louisiana and the teenager in BC (she was in the ICU on respiratory support for 2 months) had D1.1 which has been detected in cattle in Nevada.
Canada just purchased H1N2 vaccines for humans.
Mortality rates:
Covid 5%
Spanish Flu ~15% MAX
Avian flu-50%.
It would wipe out more than half the planet in months. Paris meeting among the biggies plans to quarantine the US if it jumps here and cut us off. No ships, no planes, nothing. Mexico and Canada are on board.
We have had almost 100 cases of bird flu in recent months in the US & one death. Assuming a 50% mortality like previous stains is simply fear mongering.
Avian Influenza (AI) type A viruses are divided into subtypes based on two proteins on the surface of the virus:
Hemagglutinin (HA), of which there are 16 subtypes (H1-H16)
Neuraminidase (NA), of which there are 9 subtypes (N1-N9)
Combos of HA and NA. proteins are possible (i.e., H5N1, H5N2, H7N2…)
Gee, I'm remembering the beginning of Covid when people posted signs on the doors of their businesses predicting the entire thing would blow over in a month.
That was my point. With the idiots who are skeptical of vaccines running the health department in America, a bird flue pandemic would make the Covid disaster look insignificant. Thank you for those statistics. I had heard that bird deaths was closer to 30%. 50% would be world shattering literally.
Bird flu mortality is different. Mortality rate is t the same as caused deaths. Spanish flu 💀 6% of the population with a 15% mortality rate. Cornel vet school has the best data. Raptors & water foul are most affected. https://cwhl.vet.cornell.edu/article/highly-pathogenic-avian-influenza
As this spreads, as it inevitably will under this shitshow of an administration, you'll see that case fatality rate drop significantly. The confirmed cases right now are mostly pretty serious, so there's a skew in the data. As we go, IF testing is done, we'll see more minor and asymptomatic cases
They did that will covid, except refer trucks refuted that & will again. Yale has bowed to no administration ever. They own most of New Haven, CT and have survived through skull n bones.
I think there are a lot of unknowns re how acute/deadly strains will be that mutate to hop from human to human or even to spread more quickly and dangerously from non human to human animals. Scary no matter what, and so much more so with the destruction all the medical/public health safety nets…
It will. Spanish flu did at a rate of 15% mortality and eliminated 6% of the world’s population. H3N2 caused 500k pedi hospitalizations with a mortality rate of 25K or 0.05%. Elderly have the same rate, all in the past 4 months. Avian flu is 50%. If unchecked, it would kill 35% of humans or more.
From 1/22 through 6/24, 29 sporadic human cases of A(H5N1) were reported from nine countries, including 15 cases of severe or critical illness, and seven deaths, six cases of mild illness, and eight asymptomatic cases.
Don’t they usually start with monitoring the waste water? This is a worse than usual flu season already, but last I heard it was Flu A and RSV filling up hospitals.
My husband was hospitalized for five days with the flu, he is still on 24/7 oxygen. I got sick with it 1 day later, no hospital but anti viral drug and antibiotics, my son got it from me. This is a horrible strain that spreads like wildfire.
Reminds me of a flu season from about 10 yrs ago. I got the flu shot & about 3 months later was the sickest I’ve been in my life. There was a nasty subtype A going around. Had a 104 fever for 9 hours & then a 100 fever for a week. If I didn’t get the shot, I prob would’ve been hospitalized or dead.
For sure. Glad they made it through with no issues! Also glad he’s 19 and on the opposite end of the house lol. Mom never got it! I distanced when needed.
My coworker just got over Flu A and it took her out for a week, and spread from her daughter and cousins… it evidently kicked everyone’s ass in their houses. 😢 (glad you avoided the scourge!)
I thought if this because a friend just spent a small fortune on little greenhouses and backyard garden conversion from play area to food producing and her tomatoes were immediately was set upon by rats. And she lives in a $2 mil priced houses neighborhood
The house next door to us just sold for 1.2 million. The whole PNW is full of rats. We’ve had to critter proof our home and our gardens. It’s a fact of life.
Same…just over the border.
🇨🇦
Rats AND poultry farms everywhere so avian flu’s been hanging around up here for years.
Microgreens in mason jars, covered boxes, and for some reason our apples don’t get rat-chewed but I’ve got to be picking day and night to race the raccoons and black bears!
Concrete poured flooring, caulked at floor, heavy mesh over any opening vent windows, solid panels, drip water system so that no doors are left open for hoses…
We built our greenhouse during COVID because I wasn’t going to plant food for the rats anymore.
No rats.
Likely not? But be grateful for the vax. It doesn't prevent infection but it lessens the severity. If he's really sick now it could have been much worse. Hope he's better soon.
Is the flu shot combo include/for A this year? Since quitting Twitter I don’t know how to find all the folks who used to give the flu shot info after flu season started to see which it protects effect against
During Week 6, of the 4,214 viruses reported by public health laboratories, 4,079 were influenza A and 135 were influenza B. Of the 3,146 influenza A viruses subtyped during Week 6, 1,742 (55.4%) were influenza A(H1N1)pdm09, 1,404 (44.6%) were A(H3N2), and zero were A(H5).
Same. The smart people we got to hear directly from kept me on that site for longer than was probably wise but they were so generous to give us their time and expertise.
I've been wondering if the two were connected. I mean, COVID was coming back as standard Coronavirus for months before proper testing. (I'm not need savvy, and uncaffeinated- don't come for me) I just know this from a personal case and talking with nurses a LOT in December 2019.
This was my thought as well. They actually knew in 2018 that a novel corona virus was circulating but nothing was announced until bodies started dropping! They have referred to this as a “novel flu strain” 😬
They will need the right probes since it seems Flu A already acquired some of H5N1 characteristics which could explain the severity of flu season this year...
I am in Gig Harbor 👋🏻 I saw a nurse who’s said she was in the PNW say the ICU was full of flu cases on vent and ECMO but never heard of any of them actually had H5N1 😬
The flu season has been very bad this year. People forgot what pandemics do and how to stop the spread. Almost like the PTSD of COVID caused mass amnesia.
I'm a former nurse. Masks work. Handwashing is paramount. Social distancing helps.
But people don't wash their hands & they want to ban masks.
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Masking again!!
I’m also still Covid free.
And fully vaccinated.
It’s not impossible to avoid contagion.
It’s just something that requires extreme caution and respiratory isolation precautions.
I hope in the near future I can continue to get them !!
It’s rough out there. Masks. Handwashing.
I’m coding loads of RSV. I can’t code it if it’s not documented and if there isn’t a positive test result.
but HHS might refuse to approve its release
we'll be forced to rely on foreign countries for our vaccines
They will ban it.
Outlaw it.
Disappear the researchers who can do it.
No influenza, avian or otherwise.
And if there is, we will
Never know it. If you don’t test, your numbers are better.
Please feel free to join us in our disease free state.
🤷♀️🫤
I never give up
Hope to be blue!!
The people around me though, they were never very accepting of different folks and they have became even less so in the last decade. It's hard to reconcile.
I come from a multi-generational Florida family and have watched the culture of my home shift more and more red and become unaccepting to difference I am scared for all of the vulnerable people here. It's going to be awful for so many. 😞
I'm disabled so leaving is not really an option unless some of my adult kiddos decide to go somewhere else, then I would.
Covid was 5. Avian flu is 50. Spanish Flu~15% max. It targets heart and lungs of young and old.
Canada just purchased H1N2 vaccines for humans.
Covid 5%
Spanish Flu ~15% MAX
Avian flu-50%.
It would wipe out more than half the planet in months. Paris meeting among the biggies plans to quarantine the US if it jumps here and cut us off. No ships, no planes, nothing. Mexico and Canada are on board.
Hemagglutinin (HA), of which there are 16 subtypes (H1-H16)
Neuraminidase (NA), of which there are 9 subtypes (N1-N9)
Combos of HA and NA. proteins are possible (i.e., H5N1, H5N2, H7N2…)
https://GetWhatVote4.com
https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/php/technical-report/h5n1-06052024.html
The recommended detection thresholds are: 1/700 during the high season, 1/200 during the low season, and 1/4 during the off season / summer.
https://www.aphl.org/programs/infectious_disease/influenza/Influenza-Virologic-Surveillance-Right-Size-Roadmap/Pages/Influenza-Sample-Size-Calculators.aspx
CIDRAP
Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy
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But yeah, I’ll be using my greenhouse this year. And it’s as rodent proof as I can get it.
🇨🇦
Rats AND poultry farms everywhere so avian flu’s been hanging around up here for years.
Microgreens in mason jars, covered boxes, and for some reason our apples don’t get rat-chewed but I’ve got to be picking day and night to race the raccoons and black bears!
We built our greenhouse during COVID because I wasn’t going to plant food for the rats anymore.
No rats.
https://www.today.com/health/cold-flu/why-is-this-flu-season-so-bad-rcna191459
A concerned 🌮man
When I lived in Seattle 20+yrs ago, my stupid ex literally thought a headline that said "Tacoman" was "Taco Man".
I applaud you!
I'm a former nurse. Masks work. Handwashing is paramount. Social distancing helps.
But people don't wash their hands & they want to ban masks.
Stay safe! 😷
https://komonews.com/news/local/15-flu-deaths-in-snohomish-county-marks-highest-toll-in-3-seasons-health-department-concerns-most-deaths-50-and-older-influenza-in-washington-state
We just started testing for H5N1 routinely with all flu-like
symptoms last week.