Friday night we found out our best friends voted for it.
My wife calmly said "well, let's end this" and asked them to leave.
Horrible night. Very proud of my wife.
I'm fortunate to not have any idiots in my immediate family. But I have distanced myself from past friends and associates because I can't reconcile their politics with human decency.
I deleted most of my "friends" off of Facebook in 2020. We've had several deaths in the family, and I am down to one sibling, whose husband is a right wing troll and bully. I keep my distance. I have lost all respect for any of them.
More than 75% of my family members as well as other people I looked up to or do business with are Trump supporters. I am heartbroken and now sure how to make peace with it. I think most have been all along, but now more openly supporting. That’s what makes it more challenging to try to ignore.
Several. It's more about the attitude they have embraced: hatred, entitlement, superiority, and the acceptance of deceit, immorality, racism, massogony, and everything we've been taught is not good. I refuse to be surrounded by all that hatred.
I have not. It pains me as it's my brother and dad. I stress to them we are not allowed to talk politics as I still want to love them in the morning. It doesn't stop me from thinking what the F is wrong with them. It pains me deeply. Friends....yes, gone.
I started in 2016, mostly coworkers and some acquaintances. Went through another social media purge last week. No regrets. Fortunately my family members have sense.
I felt so strongly about the election. I have family gloating over his win. These were people I had never actually had a conversation with in my entire life. Cutting them off cost me nothing. I wonder what it will cost them. I wonder what it will cost us.
I have a MAGAt brother who is on welfare, food stamps and Medicaid. I tried to talk some sense in to him that the Republicans would be slashing his benefits and he should vote Blue. He started yelling at me about how high groceries are and Trump would help him and he hung up on me! Waiting on Karma!
We all had similar conversations with multiple family members. Useless. They are asking for it. Sadly, we all pay for their stupidity. We need a divine intervention here! 🙏
Sadly, it also goes the other way around as well, so many Trump supporters have distanced themselves from us as well, once they found we didn’t vote for Trump
That’s hard. Sorry that’s happened to you. I’ve been told by family they are ashamed to share the same last name with me. What a time we live in. I pray we don’t come to a time where there are knocks on the door of those who don’t bend the knee and who have been “turned in” by friends and family.
My one MAGA friend would only back off his abject indignation (but still tried to get me to change my mind) of my hatred for Trump when I said I've hated his ooze, his slimy sleaze, his entire worldview and countenance since the 1980s. But I know he still "knows" something is wrong with me.
If a loved one supports Dump, that means they agree with his plans. Thing is, his plans are all based on taking away people's rights, undermining our financial security, taking away ObamaCare, misogyny, hatred of Black/Brown people, use of the US military on its own citizens... 😠 Goodbye.
I live in one of the 6 blue voting countries in FL. I don’t have friends or family who would vote for someone with such low character. Don’t know about some acquaintances.They aren’t talking about how they voted. Best not to know, because I would distance myself.
People aren’t ending friendships & family relationships over politics, they're ending friendships & family relationships over morals & values...
There is a huge difference.
There are people I work with who I no longer respect. And some have vets in their families, I believe they will regret it. My family had to agree not to talk about politics to save the peace. In 2016 we had siblings not speaking to each other.
I just did that last week and it was very upsetting. Someone I have known for a long time turned out to be a Trumper and I had to back out of a lunch group because of it. I can't be around them. 😔
It started in 2016 and has gotten worse.
As much as we love our family/friends,how can one ignore they are enabling modern day Nazism? We can love them from afar,but the support for such an evil man really destroys the way you look at them.
Trump killed 1 MILLION people by lying & downplaying covid
1 MILLION + DEATHS. Forensic medical analysts say that HALF of them could have been saved if Trump had been a normal empathy filled & competent leader. He is a narcissistic CRIMINAL sociopath. Trump supporters VOTED AGAIN, AFTER 1 MILLION DEAD, to put him back in power. Trump ripped babies from the
breasts of nursing mothers. That zero tolerance policy is CHILD TORTURE per the American Academy of Pediatricians & UN definition. TRUMP SUPPORTERS VOTED FOR THAT. I really don't want to have anything to do with people that enable that cruelty & evil. I certainly want them to know I am not ok with
their enabling that cruelty & evil.
I can love them from afar. I can pray for them always.
I can be there for them when they need me.
But it's just not the same.
Yes, Trump ripped this country apart.
I beg G-D to punish him without mercy while he is still on this earth, then punish him for all eternity. May he take his place beside his idol, Hitler.
#NeverAgain
My relationships began to erode when Biden won. Now I don’t want to be associated with those who can overlook/excuse the human failures of this monster. I was raised with ethics to be a steward of the U.S. and our Constitution. I’m also a practicing Christian.
Yep. It's actually an act of self control because I will say something I can't take back if I engage right now. And I'm not sure I want to completely torch the relationships. Just need to protect my peace right now.
I've tried to be tolerant but my siblings voting twice for the convicted felon president has made me cut ties completely. It's sad but I no longer trust them.
I’ve been wrestling with this since the 5th. So many people in my network are Trump supporters, that I would have hardly anyone left if I distanced myself from all of them. However, I haven’t wanted any communication with those closest to me who voted for him.
That is difficult. Can you build new relationships with liberals who share your values so you don't feel the loss?
I don't blame you. Who wants to interact with people who are enabling suffering for others?
Actually that’s been the tiny bright spot. I’ve had so many people in similar but worst situations than mine reach out privately to share their grief, upset and worries. We’re becoming a strange little community of secret blue specs in a big sea of red.
My circle of trusted friends outside of work colleagues has gotten significantly smaller since 2016 and will shrink a little further now…not putting energy into maintaining those relationships any longer.
@Wajahat Ali have you had to go no contact with family or friends? It’s actually rather easy for me to drop them from my life because it’s a deal breaker. 💙🫂💙
What I don't get are Pakistanis who voted for Trump, even my own relatives, but they also support Imran Khan?
So, they can decry political corruption of an oligarchy/kleptocracy in Pakistan, but voted for a demagogue grifter here in the US?
Make this make sense to me. 🤦
Probably due to:
Trump met with Khan in 2019. Optics shapes perception.
Biden admin. was focused on Afghan. & hoped Pakistan would pressure Taliban for peace there. Relationship cooled after horrific Trump induced withdrawal.No Biden phone call during 2022 horrific floods. Khan blamed his ouster on
a "US regime change" conspiracy. Biden's comment about Pakistan's nukes picked up in Pak. press. Pakistanis in US probably are quite aware of the lack of engagement between the 2 & see Trump as the one who would get Khan out of prison.
More reasons: Pakistanis blame Biden/Harris for enabling
Netanyahu's genocide of Palestinians.
Perhaps those Pakistanis are business owners & are wealthy and don't want to pay their fair share (like most rich Trump supporters).
Conservative/religious people support him.
They are just as DELUSIONAL as their non-Pakistani counterparts.
Trump is a modern
day Nazi who hates non-Whites. We can see this in his policies. However, he is TRANSACTIONAL.
Muslim Pakistanis who hope he will end the war overlook that he is pro-Israel/Netanyahu - he has to pander to Orthodox Jews & MAGA Evangelicals who are pro-Israel. He would let that demon Netanyahu exile
or murder every single Palestinian. Both are very evil men. Pakistani-Americans live in that cult of non-reality.
They think a transactional photo op of him with Khan means he is better for Pakistan than Biden. If they only knew how much he hates them. Oh but he knows how to use them & they are
We have such close ties to the US. I'm gutted to hear who some of my American colleagues, relatives, and friends voted for, and why. And, the MAGA arrogance and anger is worse than ever! So yup, I did a Facebook cleanse and I answer some emails/texts/calls at my leisure, if at all.
In my case they distanced themselves from me because I tried to warn them. Now some may lose benefits that keep them housed and fed. No I will not open my door to them---they can go live together.
I had to break up with an older friend/acquaintance. He suggested this was because of my “political views.” Not anymore, my friend. Maybe during Obama vs Romney; this is an entirely different thing based on my morals and ethics. And not being propagandized by Fox (have lost a few to brain mush)
No choice. I can’t hang with insults, mockery, supporting violence, racist, fascist, ignorance. And they chose to behave like this towards a family member? Nopety.
Except, this began to accelerate in 2015. It’s only gotten worse. Now they demand we lay that aside and unite cause if we don’t … we can just go cry harder, libtard.
I'm skipping Thanksgiving. (Full disclosure: I'm vegetarian and people eating meat is kind of gross, from where I'm sitting. Usually, it is at the kid's table.)
I did that in 2016 and 2020
2024 is probably going to be a repetition of that again
It’s even worse because this time some of them are Muslim like me but have gotten “red pilled”
Embarrassing
The trans population is only front and center bc they're making it. They needed a boogie man. The truth is they're not bothering anyone. Hopefully, it'll be a quick turn around when they realize that Trump lied to them. He in no way will help the Muslim community.
Like a lot of young men
Right coded social media and conspiracy theories
They said they wanted Trump to win because they think “wokeness is out of control”, “Trans people are taking over everything.” Dude their parents are immigrants and they say anti immigrant shit
Gaza was also a factor
My husband works with all Maga. They have told him that their family members have cut them off. He says they have grandkids. it's sad, like, what are they doing. Why are they sticking with this idiot over their family. To keep the peace he says hes none political and doesn't vote.
It's very difficult. Those MAGAts can be vicious af.
I'd ask them "Why do you think your family cut you out of their lives?" just to hear their delusional responses. LOL
It is beyond tragic.Probably their fear of White becoming the minority, their xenophobia & desire to bash a scapegoat is why they
put Trump over their family. It's ALL about their grievance & how their idol is going to solve those grievances EVEN THOUGH Trump is going to screw them over.
Your husband is smart. When you're outnumbered, it's best to not antagonize & they can be f*kng HATEFUL. They love to gang up on Dems.
Talking less with and haven’t seen my good friend. He claims he voted for Harris, but I know he voted for Trump in ‘16. On 11/6, he wanted people like his trans daughter and me, a liberal, whose first thought was how those 1/6 traitors are going to get pardoned to “relax”. I need a new friend.
I think when you're trans or queer, that conversation tends to happen fairly early on, so I am not actually friends with any Trumpers. Luckily my dad votes D.
I’ve been lucky. One sib who voted for Trump in 2016 who has begged for forgiveness. Some FB friends who I don’t interact with on current issues. A neighbor who did not post Trump signs this year. Maybe there is hope?
I'm still upset from 2016. Same people same vote, Trump brought so much divide he gave them permission to be the worst in themselves and dismissed the rest of us as "woke."
The opposite of woke is asleep!
I don't have magat friends, but just last week, I purged a few family members from my life. They aren't local to me, and we haven't communicated much lately anyway, so it wasn't that hard. It was liberating, though.
Actually, we should be doing the opposite. You want to be really good with those people because you know once that caravan of crazy comes to an end, you will be the one who saw the whole process unfold and can say told you so and humbly move on.
Still haven't acknowledged the neighbors across the street that I usually wave hi to all the time. Not sure how to say you are an idiot that voted against your own interests...
Yes. My best friend of 30yrs…I’ve tried so hard to get her truthful info. I thot she saw the light with all those vulgar rallies. Nope. I’m the fool for hoping….
Is she xenophobic or does she have an anti immigrant/trans bias? Is she religious? I'd love to know what attracts her to him. She must live in a Fox News echo chamber.
It’s her boyfriend & her step dad. They keep NewsMax on tv constantly. She is a smart person. She is a nurse so she has some compassion. This is the power of LIES & MISINFORMATION.
It usually is a family member or close friend that introduces them to the poison. I'm so sorry.
Maybe she could revisit the covid period during which Trump's lies & downplaying cost us 1 million lives....I hope she gets out of the cult.
Thank You for your supportive answer. I wish I knew what next steps would work. I extrapolate this situation to those of us around the country & it makes me very sad....in addition to all the other shit stuff going on. Time for us to support each other, so I appreciate you.
You're welcome. When they're friends/family,simply questioning "Are you ok with how he lied/downplayed covid, or how he ripped kids from parents & made them suffer, you ok with him wanting to shoot/kill people?" That is how I try to approach it. I leave the attacks/shaming for MAGAts on social media
I own a business in a rural area and hate being surrounded by morons. I don't advertise how much I hate that orange maggot, but "they" know. I appreciate that some, yes, some, of "them" still do business with me in spite of it. That having been said, I'm staying out of this Community all together.
I keep my MAGA family on one app for social media.
Keep them off of the rest.
I also don’t debate them online or when they try to debate over text messages. I do have in person conversations. As soon as you get disrespectful I stop the conversation.
Have you been able to reason with any of them? I’m curious to know what helped you decide to not be MAGA… I’m surrounded by friends/fam who are deeply entrenched in it. sigh
Family count : 1, or 2. Hard to decide since the adult is my brother, with whom I didn't have a relationship with in the first place and the child is his son, brainwashed at 16.
Co-workers : we are not friends and I do not socialize with any. Actively ignoring the rabid magats.
I rid myself of Facebook. Not totally deleted yet, but I haven’t logged on since the election. I lob pro-democracy posts over to stir the pot without having to engage. I get a perverse satisfaction from that.
Already did to former military friends after 2016. WI Parents though -I just voiced my “never trump or his minions” and then refuse to engage because they throw conspiracy theories out nonstop. It’s exhausting. I used to wanna leave New Jersey now I’m staying put.
Hell I started in ‘16. AFAIK all are still MAGA and we don’t talk. Friends, cousins, neighbors (many by just a sign in the yard). ‘16 I could forgive. ‘20 and ‘24 not happening.
I quit my gym. It's actually majority black owned. But one of the owners is a white female Trumper...who had the audacity to tell a black female member that Kamala "isn't who you think she is." And membership is largely white...many Trumpers. I didn't feel at peace there.
Assigning evil motive to 70 million people, including neighbors, community and family. Yes, there are immoral and bad actors, we need to combat their actions and deeds. Maybe more of us need to be like Pete B, enter the lion's den + state the facts.
I limit my discussions to the weather, the well-being of family members, home projects, travel, etc. My family is too small & precious to totally rend it. We grew up abroad, only had each other. Losing the connection, the dividers win.
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My wife calmly said "well, let's end this" and asked them to leave.
Horrible night. Very proud of my wife.
Hubby had been pushing to move to North Carolina for business needs. We cancelled the plans on election night.
Hubby thought Kamala Harris would at least bring some sensible governing to the White House.
If anyone had?
Cut them off
There is a huge difference.
As much as we love our family/friends,how can one ignore they are enabling modern day Nazism? We can love them from afar,but the support for such an evil man really destroys the way you look at them.
Trump killed 1 MILLION people by lying & downplaying covid
I can love them from afar. I can pray for them always.
I can be there for them when they need me.
But it's just not the same.
I beg G-D to punish him without mercy while he is still on this earth, then punish him for all eternity. May he take his place beside his idol, Hitler.
#NeverAgain
I don't blame you. Who wants to interact with people who are enabling suffering for others?
So, they can decry political corruption of an oligarchy/kleptocracy in Pakistan, but voted for a demagogue grifter here in the US?
Make this make sense to me. 🤦
Trump met with Khan in 2019. Optics shapes perception.
Biden admin. was focused on Afghan. & hoped Pakistan would pressure Taliban for peace there. Relationship cooled after horrific Trump induced withdrawal.No Biden phone call during 2022 horrific floods. Khan blamed his ouster on
More reasons: Pakistanis blame Biden/Harris for enabling
Perhaps those Pakistanis are business owners & are wealthy and don't want to pay their fair share (like most rich Trump supporters).
Conservative/religious people support him.
They are just as DELUSIONAL as their non-Pakistani counterparts.
Trump is a modern
Muslim Pakistanis who hope he will end the war overlook that he is pro-Israel/Netanyahu - he has to pander to Orthodox Jews & MAGA Evangelicals who are pro-Israel. He would let that demon Netanyahu exile
They think a transactional photo op of him with Khan means he is better for Pakistan than Biden. If they only knew how much he hates them. Oh but he knows how to use them & they are
"Trump Won. God is Great. 😂"
We haven't spoken since.
2024 is probably going to be a repetition of that again
It’s even worse because this time some of them are Muslim like me but have gotten “red pilled”
Embarrassing
Right coded social media and conspiracy theories
They said they wanted Trump to win because they think “wokeness is out of control”, “Trans people are taking over everything.” Dude their parents are immigrants and they say anti immigrant shit
Gaza was also a factor
Rightwing propaganda poisons minds. Especially those of young men.
I'd ask them "Why do you think your family cut you out of their lives?" just to hear their delusional responses. LOL
It is beyond tragic.Probably their fear of White becoming the minority, their xenophobia & desire to bash a scapegoat is why they
Your husband is smart. When you're outnumbered, it's best to not antagonize & they can be f*kng HATEFUL. They love to gang up on Dems.
That gives us hope.
The opposite of woke is asleep!
Cruelty, division, the utter alienation of families.
Yes, it is.
Maybe she could revisit the covid period during which Trump's lies & downplaying cost us 1 million lives....I hope she gets out of the cult.
Find like minded friends to surround yourself with in your area. It's not easy. Hang in there!
Things have not improved...
Keep them off of the rest.
I also don’t debate them online or when they try to debate over text messages. I do have in person conversations. As soon as you get disrespectful I stop the conversation.
I also used to be MAGA so I’m used to it.
Co-workers : we are not friends and I do not socialize with any. Actively ignoring the rabid magats.
I’m thankful for an online community that keeps me sane.