So towards the end of the video Rebecca Watson recommends participating with a local (progressive) gun club even if you're not exactly looking to own a firearm. I want to explain why doing so, even if you are anti-gun, can help you save lives in the small-scale and in the big picture. - ThreadSky

illcaesar.bsky.social • 99 days ago

So towards the end of the video Rebecca Watson recommends participating with a local (progressive) gun club even if you're not exactly looking to own a firearm.

I want to explain why doing so, even if you are anti-gun, can help you save lives in the small-scale and in the big picture.

Reposted from Rebecca Watson

Is violence the answer? Today I wanted to talk a bit more about the science behind the effectiveness of civil resistance and whether or not it precludes violence 🧪 skepchick.org/2024/12/is-v...

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renezuo.bsky.social•99 days ago

Best I can do is an eclectic smattering of swords scattered around my house.

illcaesar.bsky.social•99 days ago

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thebeallcurve.bsky.social•99 days ago

An excellent idea. Desensitize oneself by becoming familiar with firearms in the event you are confronted with a situation involving firearms. At appropriate age, it is good for the younger child. This was the original purpose of the NRA when it was founded.
https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/2020/3/24/21191524/nra-national-rifle-association-history-frank-smyth-wayne-la-pierre

thebeallcurve.bsky.social•99 days ago

grape390fluffy.bsky.social•99 days ago

Thank you for this awesome discourse and I hope folks heed your (and Rebecca's) recommendations. I was a long time anti-firearm advocate and recently realized that it would still be useful for me to know how to use, disarm, and understand firearms. I just took a course and it was SO informative.

illcaesar.bsky.social•99 days ago

Small scale it gives you the knowledge to prevent shooting accidents, disarm firearms that may imminently be used for homicide or suicide, understand how bullets wound people so you can be a better emergency responder. It also can help prevent someone at risk of self-harm from hurting themselves.

illcaesar.bsky.social•99 days ago

Avoiding accidents, disarming firearms, etc are all obvious but not so much prevention of non-imminent suicide. So, how does that work?

Roughly half of all firearm deaths in the U.S. are deliberately self-inflicted.

illcaesar.bsky.social•99 days ago

Many pro-gunners are unwilling to cede any rhetorical ground to anti-gunners so they often say "someone will off themselves no matter what, they'll use something else." True for some cases, untrue for others. Proximity to a firearm is scientifically proven to cause an increased likelihood of suicide

illcaesar.bsky.social•99 days ago

How can you help prevent this? When someone is having suicidal thoughts and feelings they may be willing to surrender their firearm to you until those thoughts and feelings pass.

But why you, specifically? Can't they ask the police to do this for them?

illcaesar.bsky.social•99 days ago

No. If they ask the police they will probably never get the gun back. Furthermore the surrender may be used to prevent them from owning firearms in the future, it will be used against them in any investigation into fitness to raise children, and may be used against them in a potential criminal case.

illcaesar.bsky.social•99 days ago

However, if you're friends with someone with a firearm and they trust you they can surrender it to you. Technically that's not legal in some states (because anti-gun laws are often written poorly) and if you don't own a safe to place a gun in you shouldn't have one. But there is a simple solution.

reverendcharles.bsky.social•98 days ago

Fuck no. The last thing you want to do is introduce law enforcement of any kind.

reverendcharles.bsky.social•98 days ago

I’m very pro gun and I’ll tell you the increased effectiveness of firearms over other methods is exactly why we carry them.

By being comfortable with firearms, you can potentially act as a temporary keeper of someone’s who is experiencing serious thoughts of self harm.

eve-rising.bsky.social•99 days ago

How would I find a local progressive group?

doktorslek.bsky.social•99 days ago

Socialist gun club is pretty widespread in the states from memory. You can probably just search for that and the name of your state and a branch will more than likely be nearby

It's specifically a firearms education group with progressive ideals.

doktorslek.bsky.social•99 days ago

Wait, Socialist Rifle Association!

It's been so long since I thought about them I forgot the name.

https://socialistra.org/about/

illcaesar.bsky.social•99 days ago

There's also John Brown Gun Club, Pink Pistols, and iirc A Better Way 2A has some pages that'll point you in the right direction. I wouldn't call NAAGA progressive but it's much more race conscious than any mainstream group (and some Pink Pistols chapters if I'm being honest)

eve-rising.bsky.social•99 days ago

Thank you! I'll look at those, I'm in a pretty rural area and last I checked most of those were closer to the cities (I can't travel very far) but maybe it's changed

eve-rising.bsky.social•99 days ago

A total bust on all those suggestions, but thanks tho

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