Like, the conservative minds that can justify invading Panama and Greenland and trying to force Canada into the US via economic force can also end up working their way into horrific crimes against humanity at home - ThreadSky

sharonk.bsky.social • 44 days ago

Like, the conservative minds that can justify invading Panama and Greenland and trying to force Canada into the US via economic force can also end up working their way into horrific crimes against humanity at home

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it's what worries me about domestic conditions in the US, because if these guys in the intellectual braintrust can rationalize foreign action that is idiotic like this, what happens when they go all in at home?

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ofpope.bsky.social•44 days ago

They were waving "mass deportation now" signs at rallies, they don't have to work their way into anything!
It's where they started!

cathywantspeace.bsky.social•38 days ago

Watched "Canadian Bacon" on Prime starring John Candy and Alan Alda. A Michael Moore film 1995. Fantastic comedy but soooo prophetic. Highly recommend viewing. US invading Canada to up the popularity of a president and keep the masses from dealing with their real problems.

culthero12.bsky.social•44 days ago

It's happened before. Kennedy vetoed plans to stage false flag attacks to justify attacking Cuba.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

mattpb.bsky.social•40 days ago

VETOED, David. They did NOT happen.

culthero12.bsky.social•40 days ago

The point is the US has never lacked for maniacs in important positions. Just now we are looking at a situation where the guardrails are gone.

Kudos for some fine pedantry!

awuga.bsky.social•44 days ago

remember what happened with "they're eating the dogs?" It'll be that but worse

shawnk1.bsky.social•28 days ago

💯 yes!

danfarina.bsky.social•44 days ago

"In the grim darkness of the 21st century, there is only..." https://bsky.app/profile/yungdreyfusard.bsky.social/post/3lfgg2azpnk2t

ansellscow.bsky.social•44 days ago

Migrant child separation was a test, they failed miserably, and I fear it is a harbinger of the things to come.

elliottlusztig.bsky.social•44 days ago

Watching people try to normalize this insanity makes me believe Trump could set up internment camps for American citizens and the media would conspire with billionaires to justify it.

It feels like anything could happen.

childofmercury.bsky.social•34 days ago

There are solid strategic and economic benefits for the US and the world for having an expanded US presence in Greenland. It would be long term investment.

james.fieldleveltech.org•44 days ago

They’re supporting a guy who it seemed tried to hang in to power via a violent insurrection right?!? Like yeah I don’t think norms are gonna restrain them.

superdooperpooper.bsky.social•44 days ago

I for one can't wait for a second Canadian burning of the white house - Quebecois edition.

historiken.bsky.social•44 days ago

they're already in that mental place and are now working on selling it to the general public

annabellelecter.bsky.social•44 days ago

Of course. They are flooding the zone to make the electorate more pliable and compliant.

kellaynne.bsky.social•31 days ago

Real fear for our country and loved ones. WE have done nothing to anger any country, just the susposed president (clown) has upset anyone. But it's our homes and families that will pay for Trump's big a** mouth. Everything he has done is in revenge for made up enemies he has.

doremus-schafer.bsky.social•44 days ago

someguyhere1.bsky.social•44 days ago

I'm very certain they intend to. I mean, already it's not like the militia groups they deputize at the borded even do as much as check the sex offender registry before allowing members to join.

ducksfortheduckgod.bsky.social•44 days ago

Not a coincidence that the op-ed page that just gave us Ross Douthat singing an unfunny reprise of "Blame Canada" also gave us Tom Cotton talking about how sending in troops to crush the Floyd protests would be awesome

historiken.bsky.social•44 days ago

and telling lies to support his argument

chipdaniels.bsky.social•44 days ago

The entire premise of their thinking is that everyone else is not fully human, so it shouldn't surprise this leads to very dark places.

stork-sculpture.bsky.social•36 days ago

This is all just a TV show to NYT editors. No consequences

hk1988.bsky.social•44 days ago

One of the people who helped me put my mental health back together after it shattered at the start of 2024 has a Canadian partner.
I'm not putting my labor towards hurting-

Anyone on the target list, but especially Canadians, if I get drafted.

And there *will* be a draft if they hit everybody...

hk1988.bsky.social•44 days ago

I know this seems like a bunch of public internet tough guy grandstanding...

But I am committed.

giziti.bsky.social•44 days ago

this is why trumpism-zuckerbergism must be opposed at every turn

marcalyn.bsky.social•44 days ago

They haven’t considered that adding a California sized state or breaking it up into multiple states that vote 60% liberal, would hand most control over to the Democrats for a long time. The 60% would go closer to 75% if any type of economic force or threats were used to coerce it.

ambersweet.bsky.social•44 days ago

Absolutely no one seems to be considering this, which leads me to think the plan would be to make them territories or colonies but not states with representation.

tealdeer.bsky.social•44 days ago

Yeah, people keep assuming they'd be allowed to vote and I don't know why.

marcalyn.bsky.social•44 days ago

well, that would only happen by use of force and long-term military occupation.

ambersweet.bsky.social•44 days ago

Yes.

carnivorecrunch.bsky.social•44 days ago

Oh they have.

1. This is all a lie to distract from Trump being called VP to President Musk or to distract from the back door dealings that are selling the country for parts.

2. These territories will NEVER be states because like Puerto Rico, they would be hugely liberal.

vman29397.bsky.social•44 days ago

Puerto rico is run by conservatives

marcalyn.bsky.social•44 days ago

it could be time for them to amend the constitution to say that anyone is citizen at the time of the merger of the United States in Canada is eligible to be president and then that would cover musk.

this is all a fun distraction, but impossible for it to happen

walmsley.bsky.social•44 days ago

fwiw I'm pretty sure both "invade canada" and "fire on protestors" get you a military coup. you *might* get away with special military actions in Mexico or the Panama Canal but the military made their stance on doing a fascism pretty clear last time

neuroticlesbian.bsky.social•44 days ago

This is just our life now. Military coups.

neuroticlesbian.bsky.social•44 days ago

I hate my country. I hate it. And i hate myself

tznkai.bsky.social•44 days ago

I think invading Canada is being interpreted much more farcically by Americans than by Canadians and if shit got real tones would change.

404apathy.bsky.social•44 days ago

Of course it is. After all, it's not our country that's threatened.

tznkai.bsky.social•44 days ago

Sure, but there's just also a long cultural history of America of not taking Canada seriously as a power but also the idea we'd actually get aggressive with Canada is even more absurd.

tznkai.bsky.social•44 days ago

The actual history of conflict with Canada and the British Empire past the American Revolution itself is... Buried is the wrong word because that suggests deliberate action. Forgotten maybe.

indigoace.bsky.social•44 days ago

Considering how embarrassing the invasion of Canada turned out to be for the United States, I think it's more like everyone on the losing side just avoided thinking about the humiliation as much as possible. It's easier to forget if you avoid ever thinking about it.

williameburns.bsky.social•44 days ago

Not by Canadians.

tznkai.bsky.social•44 days ago

I think about Canada a fair amount because I have Canadian friends and family and I live in Michigan (I used to watch CBC!) and I barely think about Canada at all and the inverse just is not true.

historiken.bsky.social•44 days ago

also both times we tried it it did not work out well for us, the canadian museum of military history does a pretty good job of minimizing the gloating but you can still feel it at the back of the interp materials

tznkai.bsky.social•44 days ago

There's a West Wing episode about this!

walmsley.bsky.social•44 days ago

Canadian Bacon is another piece of evidence for your theory

wrathofgodbot.bsky.social•44 days ago

I agree with this but I think special military operation in Mexico is being underpriced particularly if done by PMCs and militias

tznkai.bsky.social•44 days ago

I agree with this, paramilitary action in Central America is just kind of baked in to American assumptions when we bother to think about it.

Oh the CIA and specops are shooting cartels? Seems legit.

wrathofgodbot.bsky.social•44 days ago

Lots of militias are already running about on the border and would absolutely take the opportunity to crossover and cause havoc

telson.bsky.social•44 days ago

The entire GOP are enthusiastic for a new war with Mexico.
I hope it can be avoided but I'm also fearful.

telson.bsky.social•44 days ago

"Joking" about invading a neighbour is an incredibly offensive thing for a powerful country to do.
I really hope Canadians can find an effective way to retaliate.

kagiboran.bsky.social•44 days ago

Can confirm

jkachmar.com•44 days ago

history says that firing on protesters is generally used as an opportunity to chastise the protesters (cf. immediate response to Kent State).

maybe it’s different now, but idk.

walmsley.bsky.social•44 days ago

and before someone mentions the purges I think the purges also trigger a coup. particularly if he blows up the economy with tariffs first, which is likely to happen because tariffs move faster than the military.

noctouyan.bsky.social•44 days ago

- you know, I don’t think we’ve ever seen an American military coup, so wargame this one out; in wake of news in June about a military purge from a president at -40 approval, who moves to do what?

tobellz.bsky.social•44 days ago

1) The generals stop answering Trump's orders.
2) Trump fires them and they do not accept his dismissal.
3) Trump tries to get loyalists to coup the generals.
4) The loyalists fail and the generals move against Trump.

It's a f-ing disaster.

timothystamm101.bsky.social•44 days ago

They probably have to move against Musk and Thiel as well as any billionaire that thinks they're about to lose their chance to win the class struggle or is otherwise compromised.

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