feel like the running story of the 2020s is people dramatically underestimating how attached people are to what they consider their home - ThreadSky

sharonk.bsky.social • 5 days ago

feel like the running story of the 2020s is people dramatically underestimating how attached people are to what they consider their home

Reposted from Sharon ♨️🇨🇦

god i love canadians

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ann1ebee.bsky.social•5 days ago

The mistake these idiots make is assuming that Canadians aren't armed because Canada doesn't have the gun violence problem the US does.

proudanselmo.bsky.social•5 days ago

As the saying goes, beware of Canadians offering corned beef.

girlpython.bsky.social•5 days ago

also right wing dipshit rulers revitalising institutions and ideas thought of as holdovers from a prior era (NATO, canadian nationalism)

rowyourbot.bsky.social•5 days ago

Canada really needs to be sending spies here and thinking of the USA as a dangerous enemy.

leosmith.bsky.social•5 days ago

I'll just repost this here: https://bsky.app/profile/manuelaellela.bsky.social/post/3li3o6tuoxk2o

woollahra.bsky.social•5 days ago

The secret is to make it easy for people to get a home... and then hold on to it. America doesn't have such a system in place, and that leads to a lack of ownership in society as well, not just homes specifically.

qdc.bsky.social•5 days ago

Look. You even lost the hockey game. Just saying 🫣

philmoura.bsky.social•5 days ago

Not sure I’d fancy annoying the descendants of General Currie?

roland00.bsky.social•5 days ago

taps the Uncanny / Unhomelike* / Unfamiliar button

*Unheimlich in german which gets translated as all 3 depending on context

we are in not familiar waters, and some people said it is okay to swim ignore the sharks 🦈

ziyyigo-tipyigo.bsky.social•5 days ago

https://bsky.app/profile/ziyyigo-tipyigo.bsky.social/post/3ligbeuajws2l

metalista66666.bsky.social•5 days ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vela_incident

anka32.bsky.social•5 days ago

Also seems like they vastly underestimate how many of us are rooting for Canada….

kegman83.bsky.social•5 days ago

Remember kids, the Geneva Conventions were created because of the things they pulled in WWI.

stephenengland.bsky.social•5 days ago

I think the same could be said for the 2000s more broadly.

pwnallthethings.bsky.social•5 days ago

also just a total inability to understand how opening a pandoras box at that scale can lead to bizarre and unpredictable changes down the lane. Like how you think you're going to take Kyiv in months and two years later find yourself planning a withdrawal from your Mediterranean naval base in Tartus

krubner.bsky.social•5 days ago

It’s total nihilism. Trump doesn’t care. If the USA is destroyed, he doesn’t care. It would be good for Russia so perhaps he favors it. Much of MAGA seems comfortable with civil war for reasons that seem motivated mostly by nihilism.

roland00.bsky.social•5 days ago

as I was reminded recently, and I am not a big fan of him for he is a cypher

but the reality testing area of Hegel is the preceding passage to the Master / Slave dialectic, and that reality testing area is with incomplete information but also pseudo information like a simulation

roland00.bsky.social•5 days ago

thus one fights to re-establish what is real and not real with norms

yes we had adequate norms before, but these rich twats are quite mad and they will not figure out what is real and not real till pushback and struggle occurs

since they won so many prior exchanges they do not know danger yet

aaronblackshear.bsky.social•5 days ago

When the Quebec separatists get motivated by "we don't want to be Canada but we sure as shit don't want to be the US" things get really fun

pwnallthethings.bsky.social•5 days ago

like Canada isn't going to march down and conquer texas, but that doesn't mean you won't literally destabilize the union to the point where you take unthinkable losses

mattferrel.bsky.social•5 days ago

But Canadian Texas would surely be an improvement

madmayday.bsky.social•5 days ago

Even if it was a short occupation, I think it would be quite pleasant. I hope they bring eggs.

drunkcharisma.bsky.social•5 days ago

Canadian Texas is called Alberta, have you been to Alberta?

mattferrel.bsky.social•4 days ago

I have not (yet)

adamboyle.bsky.social•5 days ago

The province of Minnesota has a really nice ring to it

anniegirl.bsky.social•5 days ago

Exactly. Why wouldn't Minnesota join us? They have nothing to gain by staying.

adamboyle.bsky.social•5 days ago

I mean, we would probably consider letting Minnesota ‘annex’ us cuz we are meant for each other

engy5150.bsky.social•5 days ago

As a Minnesotan - I think we’d add to Canada -I’m into it

adamboyle.bsky.social•5 days ago

That’s the irony of what Trump is doing.

Thinking he pushes too hard, he’s gonna find out a lots of states are just not down for his insanity

kitsparks.bsky.social•5 days ago

I’ve been advocating for Big New Brunswick

they’re hardly using those parts of Maine and New Hampshire anyway

https://bsky.app/profile/kitsparks.bsky.social/post/3lh2k2is4h22x

adamboyle.bsky.social•5 days ago

This is so genius. They don’t even need these places. Let’s just take them and leave a note

dzaffrann.bsky.social•5 days ago

David Foster Wallace has been right about everything else, why not this too

scriban.bsky.social•5 days ago

“Pacific Northwest? No sir, you’re now our ‘Pacific Southwest.’”

adamboyle.bsky.social•5 days ago

We welcome Washington to annex us too

digitalramble.bsky.social•5 days ago

cascadia would like an application

cacaobyproduct.bsky.social•5 days ago

Like they may do a 2burn 2whitehouse

gothamgirlblue.com•5 days ago

And you have to consider that there are a lot of border states that would more likely accommodate any counteroffensive than create active resistance

pwnallthethings.bsky.social•5 days ago

also modern warfare doesn't just look like armies slowly marching a front in one direction with big land battles in the middle. Plenty of places in Russia that are discovering that "not at risk of being occupied by Ukraine" and "not held at risk by Ukraine" are not quite the same

pwnallthethings.bsky.social•5 days ago

like this isn't touching the stove, it is climbing inside it. Folks need to wind it in and stop humoring the president on it; if they open the ark it will melt their face

fourthward.bsky.social•5 days ago

Do people not know that Canada invents war crimes?? Like they are The Go Too Far country? Geneva Convention is basically nah Canada not again??

valdiana.bsky.social•5 days ago

Most of our military that can actually fight is forward deployed and Canada knows everything about our security apparatus because of Five Eyes. Genuinely unhinged even for like a shitty Tom Clancy novel

scarredempire.bsky.social•4 days ago

Also and this can't be emphasized enough, almost everyone has forgotten that a good portion of the Geneva conventions exist specifically to reel in the Canadians once they get fired up

scarredempire.bsky.social•4 days ago

Like this was over in the somme i can only imagine what its be on the home court lmfao

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/the-forgotten-ferocity-of-canadas-soldiers-in-the-great-war

mattkavanagh.bsky.social•5 days ago

How many Canadians live in the US? The rest of us look and sound American and know the culture intimately. If this ever escalates into a conflict, it will be one without a frontline.

mattferrel.bsky.social•5 days ago

I googled Canadian comedians recently and discovered that a lot of comedians I had assumed were American were Canadian.

spencerwindes.bsky.social•5 days ago

Lots of Americans will be on the side of Canada.

mattkavanagh.bsky.social•5 days ago

Worthwhile Canadian initiative: taking America in their rear area. 😂

scottwhitegloves.bsky.social•5 days ago

Sorry no. Discussions of the finer points of “modern warfare” in the context of Trump’s imperial ambitions for Canada are no better, no different that the Peter Baker NYT piece about the electoral politics of it all.

Shut up!

onbluskysku.bsky.social•5 days ago

DSA SUNY Plattsburgh is gonna have some interesting meetings

dustinn.bsky.social•5 days ago

You could easily see events like "blue American insurgents attack staging areas near Detroit" right from the jump

dustyponcho.bsky.social•5 days ago

The West Coast seceding becomes all the more viable and I am HERE FOR IT

wonkish.bsky.social•5 days ago

Plus it seems likely to me that a bunch of US military personnel might not be that keen to kill their Canadian counterparts who they literally do joint exercises with.

tmcatee.bsky.social•5 days ago

Like the blue states.

theboobla32.bsky.social•5 days ago

Canada could on any given night pull a surprise annexation of Point Roberts. They also likely have enough numbers that they could seize the Michigan UP. They could sweep down through New Hampshire & Vermont to have Maine cornered on all sides. Use such positions to negotiate from strength.

discopriest.bsky.social•5 days ago

I, for one, welcome our new Canadian overlords.

ampersine.bsky.social•5 days ago

I surrender! To healthcare and maple syrup. And poutine. And more of that healthcare after the fries and sugar.

discopriest.bsky.social•5 days ago

I am totally and completely willing to learn what Curling is without mockery.

leftleaving.bsky.social•5 days ago

No better time than now, the Tournament of Hearts is on

topherbrennan.bsky.social•5 days ago

Nothing would surprise me at this point. Like I can see a situation where trying to invade Canada leads to mutiny or even complete disintegration of the Army. In that scenario, who's to say the Canadian military WOULDN'T end up in Texas?

pwnallthethings.bsky.social•5 days ago

the point is this isn't the computer game or tv show happening far away that many americans seem to think it is, and the entire idea needs to be recognized in the US as sociopathic and to be immediately shut down, not entertained. The mentality itself ends in tears for *everyone*. Everyone loses.

aaronhoyland.bsky.social•5 days ago

This. Honestly, I think I speak on behalf of most Canadians when I say that this is freaking us the fuck out and every “har har, the dems will gain so many seats!” take isn’t helping.

anniegirl.bsky.social•5 days ago

As freaked out as we are, we are equally angry as fuck too. But these thought experiments treating it like a party game definitely aren’t helping for sure.

grrrlromeo.bsky.social•5 days ago

Northern states have a lot in common culturally and ancestrally with Canada. There's like a million of the Acadian diaspora in the US. It'd be a civil war.

emrosedeleon.bsky.social•5 days ago

I want the Dems to win seats because Trump nukes the farm subsidies, or Elon breaks social security.

I don't want us to hurt anybody who didn't vote for this if we can, certainly not anybody who couldn't vote against it.

talkingsnake.bsky.social•5 days ago

I’m American and the “Governor Trudeau” comment freaked me out too. The only explanation is that Trump is a fascist, and so he hates democracies and loves authoritarians.

codyharrison.bsky.social•5 days ago

you couldn't conquer texas from the outside, but a top down coup could easily be done, and is done decennially

veryrealbatman.bsky.social•5 days ago

Let's also keep in mind what a much more tenable position Putin was in internally than Trump is. I won't help him fight Canada. I'll actively fight against him. He's a traitor to the Constitution.

themjl.bsky.social•5 days ago

Also begs basic civilizational questions. Like… “Sovereign Nations” and “Consent of the governed”.

The mere notion is invalid, under current civilizational norms.

I wish more people would push back along those lines.

smikesme.bsky.social•5 days ago

Kiev was planned as a 3 day operation even

whetmoser.com•5 days ago

https://bsky.app/profile/whetmoser.com/post/3lgmf67qy2c2y

doublechinner.bsky.social•5 days ago

I'm one of those weirdos who doesn't sit around, fantasize, or talk to "journalists" about Canada becoming the 51st state. What's WRONG with me?

adamsith.bsky.social•5 days ago

I'm more attached to freedom, and i will fight for it in Canada if necessary

undacuvabrutha.bsky.social•5 days ago

Actually, the story of the 2020s is that the most motivated, agitated, likeliest to show up & vote in numbers are ppl who do not have a clue how anything actually work, in particular their govt.

These ignorant voters are proposing the most reckless & radical policies.

oneiriccanid.bsky.social•5 days ago

I think because the ultra-rich stopped being geographically attached and thus legacy media institutions downstream of their concerns missed that patriotism/loyalty to home and family are still very motivating for, like, most people.

mattpb.bsky.social•5 days ago

Makes me wonder about those Canadians who live quite comfortably in the States, how they feel about this.

metabluesky.bsky.social•5 days ago

The USA with a mostly functional military would be able to conquer Canada fairly swiftly not least from the sheer shock effect like 2003 but everyone speaks English. And like 2003 within five seconds of the guns falling silent and the 'mission accomplished' photo op all Hell breaks loose.

metabluesky.bsky.social•5 days ago

The USA with what these dipshits are going to be doing with and to the military would actually stand a good chance to *lose* that war outright even in the conventional phase and would fare infinitely worse in the occupation.

xeynon.bsky.social•5 days ago

I'm not sure about that. Canada is huge and has terrain well suited to guerrilla warfare. Warfare is about a lot more than pure military power. Russia's army is much larger and more powerful than Ukraine's and in three years they've barely taken any land while suffering more than 1M casualties.

metabluesky.bsky.social•5 days ago

Key words there were “functional military.”

orionkidder.bsky.social•5 days ago

This is it exactly. I can, with I think an above-average citation of fact, tell you how deeply fucked up Canada is, but I will fight tooth, nail, and knee to the groin to keep us from being American. Fuck that.

fagankara.bsky.social•5 days ago

Same. I’ve never been a nationalist and I don’t pretend we have no problems here but I would have my old lady ass out on the front line without hesitation.

caseinsensit1ve.bsky.social•5 days ago

How much of that is local attachment, though, and how much is survival instinct?

orionkidder.bsky.social•5 days ago

That's a really interesting question! And I would say they're not separate. I'm attached to where I live, and I'd like it to survive in a form that's recognizably "home," to me.

caseinsensit1ve.bsky.social•5 days ago

I keep seeing news pieces that signal to me that I really need to try and move out of America, but every time I think I should I remember how much I like this particular strip of it.

lastdaysotheweimar.bsky.social•5 days ago

I’m actually not anymore. Please save me obi wan Canadie

redwizard-404.bsky.social•5 days ago

completely deluded “they will greet us as liberators” mentality from the Iraq War era, now a part of the imperial boomerang (?)

fagankara.bsky.social•5 days ago

Some kind of pretzel thinking that lets people conclude that Canada would see Dems as “our side“. We would not.

bigjimmy.bsky.social•5 days ago

madman1234855.bsky.social•5 days ago

Ask the decaying remains of the VDV at Hostomel how willing people are to just let you take over

ryanhumphrey.bsky.social•5 days ago

In some ways I’d be less offended if they were all “sure you’d fight back, but we’d subdue you”. It would still be delusional, but on the order of the “home for Christmas” UK in WWI

But this idea that they’d be welcomed with open arms is enraging

dragonzaka.bsky.social•5 days ago

Canada burn down the White House once and they'll fucking do it again and most of us won't even stop them

xeynon.bsky.social•5 days ago

It was actually the Brits who burned down the WH, not the Canadians. The BEF that conducted the Chesapeake campaign was based in the British West Indies. But yes, Canada would fight back and inflict heavy losses on us if Trump is dumb enough to attack it.

jfjord.bsky.social•5 days ago

"I hate this place"
Foreigner, "yeah it totally sucks you all _"
"I will die to defend it"

drgrat.bsky.social•4 days ago

Just Quebec alone. See 1970s.

millersimul.bsky.social•5 days ago

It's been the problem with most of politics for 50 years. We follow demography, chronology, theology, trying to find answers, when the real answer is in geography.

codyharrison.bsky.social•5 days ago

if america to pair with canada why not ask nicely?

fagankara.bsky.social•5 days ago

Canada does not want that. Period. End of discussion.

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