watching people revise history on the biden admin is wild. it just happened! they eventually got pulled into a combative stance on abortion, but that was after months of pressure from the hated groups and seeing referenda win in red states. initial response was, to quote clyburn, "anticlimactic" - ThreadSky

fleerultra.bsky.social • 22 days ago

watching people revise history on the biden admin is wild. it just happened! they eventually got pulled into a combative stance on abortion, but that was after months of pressure from the hated groups and seeing referenda win in red states. initial response was, to quote clyburn, "anticlimactic"

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blueirisqualm.bsky.social•22 days ago

roe v wade being overturned with basically a pipsqueak

blueirisqualm.bsky.social•22 days ago

every time i see someone say oh this thing theyre doing is touching a third rail im like okay i just internalized a lesson from 2 years that maybe nothing wil happen?

themilfmag.net•22 days ago

lotta funds raised on its corpse tho

fleerultra.bsky.social•22 days ago

yeah, SCOTUS eventually gave trump immunity, but the investigation was unnecessarily delayed by months if not years by cowardice from DOJ. not to mention, they could've arrested him on the michael cohen charges on day 1. they didn't because they didn't want that, and circumstances forced their hand

jay--z.bsky.social•22 days ago

Also in day 1, should have arrested DJT on the 10 counts obstruction as detailed in Mueller

Merrick Garland, Lisa Monico and Joe Biden shoulder more blame than John Roberts.

Complete catastrophe. They let him walk.

fffanatic06.bsky.social•22 days ago

yeah there's a decided refusal among some Dems to admit there were any failures at all. For as much as the administration did for workers, it also went out of its way to extend olive branches to Republicans.

fffanatic06.bsky.social•22 days ago

and each of those branches ended up fucking us. prioritizing decorum over prosecuting Trump was hands down the dumbest thing the administration did. Right behind abandoning immigration and castigating kids protesting Israel's ethnic cleansing of palestine

fffanatic06.bsky.social•22 days ago

like, right now we could really use college students protesting Trump but 1) they're horribly demoralized 2) the organizers have been ostracized by their schools 3) a bunch now have criminal records. And that's squarely on Dems running away from an issue

fleerultra.bsky.social•22 days ago

like not only did I live through this shit, I wrote about it and talked about it on the podcast in real time. so did lots of other people! it's wild.

otiscampbell.bsky.social•22 days ago

And did not Mueller leave Garland ten meticulously documented cases of Trump obstruction of justice? Ready to prosecute?

Garland was like "okay, yes well, I'll put this over by the ginko tree in the corner."

imperatorgabs.bsky.social•22 days ago

Is there a specific episode from 5-4 in which you talked about the DOJ's passivity? I'd love to listen to it!

metanautics.bsky.social•22 days ago

my read is they assumed trump was finished politically and figured they could avoid stirring up a hornets nest by slow rolling it. catastrophic misreading of the electorate but that’s their stock in trade I guess.

texaskrusty.bsky.social•22 days ago

I still laugh about when my 33-yr old neighbor told me that George W Bush was no different than Al Gore…on the environment.

I was drunk and, unfortunately, killed that fly with a nuclear bomb.

fleerultra.bsky.social•22 days ago

i assume if dems ever take a more combative stance with trump in the next 18 months, this initial period of, let’s say, ambivalence to opposition to trump will likewise be memory-holed or revised to having been oppositional from the start.

garrettleach.dev•22 days ago

It just seems so hard to believe they will become more combative at this point 😞

There probably won't be a big singular moment like Jan 6

radianthostility.bsky.social•21 days ago

Remember when J6 happened and the DC cops actively collaborated with MAGA and hung Congress out to die on live television and then like three days later the narrative was re-written and the cops were heroes and the Dems proceeded to do absolutely nothing about the coup attempt for like four years?

streamo.bsky.social•22 days ago

I would like to see an elected Dem say loudly and proudly "Trump should go to jail for the coup he tried." Until they do that I will not believe they care

gamegeek720.bsky.social•22 days ago

and then shortly after that we will be told that such early opposition was ineffective and only made him stronger somehow

brentwaggoner.bsky.social•22 days ago

People were so mad about the non-response to Dobbs! Feels like I'm going crazy.

mango.earth•22 days ago

It was worse than a non-response, they begged for more money right after it happened

brentwaggoner.bsky.social•22 days ago

What a night that was. Awful.

prhomberg.bsky.social•22 days ago

Can't wait for the 10 dems who voted to censure Al Green to run on an all-out #Resistance platform in their primaries in 12-14 months.

spaceshipgary.bsky.social•21 days ago

They’re already memory holing that Democrats voted to censure a Democrat.

jmteo.bsky.social•22 days ago

The Biden Administration is going to be one of those things where anyone can find evidence for the conclusions they want to draw about the “Democrats”.

The economic policy was genuinely progressive, but they fucked it with the DOJ slow rolling and I/P.

gtmac.bsky.social•22 days ago

mass privitzation and diverting public health funds to cops during an ongoing pandemic is not fucking progressive, it was some flat out evil shit.

jmteo.bsky.social•22 days ago

Dude the Child Tax Credit, Inflation Reduction Act, American Rescue Plan and CHIPs were all like really good. Best economic policy since FDR and I'm genuinely not kidding. Build Back Better was basically the Green New Deal but Manchin and Sinema killed it.

gtmac.bsky.social•22 days ago

I say this deeply, calling a xenophobic act like the chips act that rewarded companies with free cash after offshoring all the relevant jobs, doing stock buy backs, and then laying off thousands good is true go fuck yourself shit.

donkadooballs.bsky.social•22 days ago

They could have arrested him as a threat to national security on day 1 because of Jan 6th. Off to Guantanamo for national security, and there doesn't have to be congressional or court approval. They were never serious about stopping him.

david.uncensored.zip•22 days ago

but michael it would have looked bad! Decorum matters more than anything

epluribus.bsky.social•22 days ago

The people are nutz

erinslick.bsky.social•22 days ago

It’s wild to still have these debates after seeing the media capitulation on Trump. It’s like arguing over the Super Bowl after finding out the refs and nfl were never gonna allow one team to win

spacetwinks.bsky.social•22 days ago

tbh this also fits right in with how everyone talks about the student debt stuff, forgetting that it was preceded by months of "okay for real we're restarting payments and you fucks need to pay up" and getting screamed at till they backed down on it, the completely redacted memo, etc

norbertmadao.bsky.social•22 days ago

And nobody ever talks about how Biden's Plan B for student debt after the court struck it down was something Elizabeth Warren had already told him to do two years earlier but he ignored her.

spacetwinks.bsky.social•22 days ago

guy who is heavily responsible for being unable to discharge student debt in bankruptcy and would not shut the fuck up for decades including into the modern day about how he doesn't support abortion: somehow in people's minds retroactively the strongest fighter for both of these causes

spacetwinks.bsky.social•22 days ago

anyhow if people are looking specifically for "oh what did he tack to the right on huh?!?!?!" let's start talking about immigration just for starters

pumpkinpal.bsky.social•22 days ago

The things they want credit for as "massive moves to the left" are things that any president in either party would do if we had a functional government and parties that weren't trying to ruin everything. Like "appointed effective anti fraud and antitrust regulators" and "did an infrastructure bill"

pumpkinpal.bsky.social•22 days ago

Working roads and power grids and competitive markets and low fraud are hypothetically things that a functioning free market would value, if you believe the economics department propaganda.

wilsonh.bsky.social•22 days ago

Or the fucking genocide?? That feels like the beginning and end of that conversation

spacetwinks.bsky.social•22 days ago

the way people talk about the groups biden fucked over is very "well yes it sucks but they were going to get murdered anyway so it's not really a big deal, is it? let's just focus on the good stuff"

erinslick.bsky.social•22 days ago

Think the argument generally is “he sucks but the alternative is way worse”… and well 🤷‍♂️

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