listen i really liked Wukong, i even got 100% of the achievements but did it’s fans really gaslight themselves into thinking it was some Elden Ring caliber game ? 😭
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no. there are plenty of indie games that cost a fifth the price that are at least as good. very few AAA games are actually good enough to justify the price, compared to indies. wukong isn't one of them.
Happy that Chinese gamers are getting rep and recognition this way (outside of the typical hoyoverse type gacha games) but yeah ugh everything I’ve heard about the dev team being DISGUSTINGLY sexist is off putting to say the least. Thinking feminism is a “disease” is pro-CCP shit too 🤮
From what I heard, the main thing that paints the developers as sexist is the e-mail that said no feminist propaganda and other topics that the CCP hates and rumors of them rejecting DEI consultation offers. Neither of which really paints them as sexist. What other things were there?
Wukong was really only in the running because it was China’s first AAA successful game. I really don’t think it should’ve been in the nominees, but I also didn’t think DLC should either.
The only reason it was nominated at all is because totally snubbing it would have been embarrassing to the west. It had no chance of winning because it was Chinese and there was a media campaign waged against it.
Right, Shadow of the Erdtree was only a dlc, so comparing it to a full game for the awards isn;t an equal comparison. If It was compared to the full Elden Ring game, then Wukong may have been beaten by it.
I'd even say that aside from the first 2 rounds, it likely won the last round of players choice also thanks to a lot of people who hated gacha and dlc but whose favourite game didn't make it.
I didn't love it after the second chapter especially. The combat didn't really evolve, the skill tree stuff wasn't really beneficial, the level design started to suck, and i got really pissed off at the yellow brow buddha fight. I beat all other bosses like in 1-3 tries and they were fun fights
The chuds convinced themselves that Wukong and Stellar Blade are the best games this year and it is the "woke" gaming industry who just doesn't want to recognize them.
Not even like the games are bad, they're just not GOTY material.
I mean that is a lot more understandable than people who gaslit themselves thinking DA:V was some fantastic game just because some online commenters hate trans people.
Oh god yeah that too. I remember there was a heap of Reddit posts (bad omen already) with some of the women in the game praising and showcasing how the East has not been infected by "woke".
Chuds took the game as an anti woke banner or some shit. If anything Stellar Blade got robbed because it deserved that action game awards way more than Wukong.
Is the only proof of this the e-mail asking for no feminist propaganda? Because if so, that really just looks like an e-mail saying to not get them in trouble with the CCP. The CCP sees feminism as a threat to their rule, among the other things in the alleged e-mail.
the reason its a measure of good is because Black Myth is a soulslike/soulslight
Elden Ring is a souls game
it is THE thing to compare it too as they share very key basic aspects in their gameplay loop and draw to the playerbase
But that is contingent on if you feel Elden Ring is good.
If you have no frame of reference, as I have, then it's just calling it good because of popularity.
Which is a fine measure but for those who don't play souls games, not apt.
Okay, but the OP was about BMW being "Elden Ring calibre". Meaning Elden Ring has some form of standard to be good in comparison.
Just to be clear I haven't played any souls-like/lite game because I don't find sweat-games fun. So I would not call them "good".
So I also don't hold ER on a pedestal
ER is held to that calibre because it's amazing
It's world is so expansive with so much detail put into it
Followed by the weapons, bosses and enemy variety as well as the story
Anyway it doesn't matter because I was more speaking down on ER being held as this "level" games have to meet to be "good".
"Just difficult" doesn't make things "good" to a point of having it's own level.
I mean, not on the level of the base game but... the DLC is not as good as the base game, overall. While the show was great, the GOTY nominees weren't exactly the strongest they have had, and from the ones i played i had the most fun with Wukong.
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ASTRO BOT DESERVED IT
Even just in scope, for better or worse as comparison, Elden Ring eats its lunch day in day out.
also, its a chinese game, so it has a massive following by proxy basically
But that's it. It's a good game. Not game of the year.
Essentially being a stan for it reveals you as “agewise, within the range of priests’ interests” or “chronically online incel”
totally fine if they enjoyed it but it really did not do anything crazy or new
Not even like the games are bad, they're just not GOTY material.
But the awards are just one big popularity contest with media voting so....blame journos
Elden Ring is a souls game
it is THE thing to compare it too as they share very key basic aspects in their gameplay loop and draw to the playerbase
But that is contingent on if you feel Elden Ring is good.
If you have no frame of reference, as I have, then it's just calling it good because of popularity.
Which is a fine measure but for those who don't play souls games, not apt.
Meaning.. like its gameplay is very similar to a souls game
If you like black myth
You'll like souls games
Therefore if you're a black myth fan
You can compare to other souls games
This isn't about popularity rn
Just to be clear I haven't played any souls-like/lite game because I don't find sweat-games fun. So I would not call them "good".
So I also don't hold ER on a pedestal
It's world is so expansive with so much detail put into it
Followed by the weapons, bosses and enemy variety as well as the story
It's just the best of the genre
"Just difficult" doesn't make things "good" to a point of having it's own level.
Also, Elden Ring is my baby and no one can ever replace her.
Look, it was either Wukong or yet another year where Genshin bought the Player vote again.
Out of all the bullshit awards, Player’s Voice is the most BS.