Brett Meiselas: Criticizing that government, criticizing Netanyahu, criticizing what's happening in Gaza does not make you anti-Semitic… just like criticizing Donald Trump does not make you anti-American.
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Antisemitic is now a buzzword. As usual, most MAGAs do not understand destiny the meaning of the word.
Criticizing the politics or leadership of a country is not antisemitic. Netanyahu is a terrible person and Israeli politics is not something I agree with but I do not hate the people of Israel
Or Jews as a people/ religion.
Just like I think Trump is despicable and I do not agree with much of what and how the US government is doing things but I am not Anti-American as MAGAs would probably imply.I deeply love my country and its people and the principles on which it was founded.
Criticizing the Israeli government doesn't make a person antisemitic. No one criticizes said government more than Israelis. However calling for the elimination or destruction of Israel IS antisemitic.
Note, asking for examples from someone claiming that *supporters of the Palestinian people are ‘accusing every Jew in the world of genocide’ and therefore anti-semitic* got me blocked. 😄
My post above is not in response to Hugh’s comment.
This is only 1/.0000110000000 of what israel has been doing to the US and Iran…Palestine…they’re the evil rises up from the Middle East…and the US made it…
Hear hear! I have been saying this forever, particularly since my government (UK) can't understand, they persist in continuing to arm Israel which makes us all complicit in the War Crimes. The UK population doesn't want to support Netenyahu and his despicable policies WE WANT THE GENOCIDE TO STOP!
Being against a terror regime like Israel makes me as little antisemitic as being against a terror regime like Iran makes me anti Muslim. But what can you expect from scared lazy people.
It does? The most politically divided country was able to speak in one voice to say this and I missed it? Did the land say this, or just every Israeli?
Clearly "Israel" here means the government or government spokespeople. Just like when you say "London" or "Washington" says that's shorthand for "there's a UK or US statement about that".
This was pre-planed by trump to own Gaza. Netanyahu was tasked with demolishing it. Done..62,000 people were murdered in the process: I hope that he understands that what he is suggesting is ethnic cleansing and should never even be whispered as a wish.
Absolutely. Nobody criticizes him as much as fellow Jews. The problem is some people don't recognize when they've moved on from bibi's government and onto Jewish people in general.
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Too long has the far right in Israel been cowardly hiding behind its shilling of anti-semitism. It’s not anti-Semitic, it’s anti being a complete cunt.
This! I like to remind people that Palestinians are a Semitic people at every opportunity. It infuriates me when any support for the Palestinian people is met with false accusations of be anti-semitic.
"… just like criticizing Donald Trump does not make you anti-American." This! I'm a proud American just because I can criticize this president for his destructive policies, his wanton criminality, his obsessive lying, his racism and fear mongering, and his blindness to being a world wide buffoon.
THANK YOU!!!! Just because you can call out the wrongs of an administration doesn't mean you 'don't support the state of Israel' or are somehow antisemitic; just as calling out the wrongs of the American gov't (past OR present) doesn't make you anti-American!
Critical thinking:
My dad fought fascism during WWII and lost much including most of his boyhood chums and his own brother. I remember him telling me; “I don’t hate Germans, I DO hate Nazis.”
I don’t hate Jews. I DO hate the criminal, loathsome Israeli government, especially Netanyahu🤮
Does it matter, at all, whether or not they are "Semites"? If they were Brazilian would the Israeli govt's actions be any better?
Also, talking about which people count as Semites has the same weird old-timey racial categorization feel as talking about who counts as a real Aryan. Not great.
No. “Semite” is a group of languages, not a people. The term antisemitism was a term that began in Germany before WWII. It has nothing to do with any other Arabic person from the Levantine region.
How is calling Israeli land theft "right wing" or discrediting to the Palestinians when Ben Gurion himself admitted more than once it was land theft (though he said it was OK because "god said so")?
Here's why "Israel is antisemitic because Palestinians are Semitic people, gotcha!" is lazy right wing troll shit, and why advocates for Palestinian rights should do better.
What pissed me off was not that it didn't pass, not that most Dems voted against it even. It wasn't going to pass the Republican majority. It's that the Dems talked about how furious they were about wasting their time. Most were more pissed about this it seemed than anything Trumpaluffagus has done.
The other side we have already known so well.
The surprise was the cause of this impeachment is worse than the last of impeachment over Ukraine. Yet actually voted No. Tens of millions of people were out and marched against Trump. When AIPAC wishes to bomb, it can bypass congress?
Is that it?
If Dems and the GOP love Netanyahu so much, make him the POTUS. Why have this dog and pony show, or both parties kissing Netanyahu's ass?
Save money, make him the POTUS, so we can impeach him and send him to GITMO.
There is so much data in Netanyahu and paying Hamas…so if your guys are going to talk about bibi, you need to see his videos says for 40+ yrs wow Iran is going to make a nuclear bomb. Yrs, he said this. Yrs.
There is a special area in Israel named “Trump Estates”…I saw it in a click of video m, I’m trying to remember where, who, I forgot…but it’s there in israel…
Brett is absolutely right, but they twist criticism of Donald Trump the exact same way. This is one of the very few things that MAGA is actually consistent on. Consistently wrong, but consistent nonetheless.
Well criticizing Donald Trump cannot make you anti-American because he is anti-American. 99% of the GOP policy is direct attacks on Americans. There’s nothing American about any of their platform.
I agree, except I don’t think it’s gonna take that long. I think Putin‘s already living in the White House. Trump is too dumb to do any of this. Putin’s pulling his strings. Trump is nothing but a demented puppet of the Russian leader and his supporters
But MSM will sit up here and pander to Israel and AIPAC saying anyone who is anti-Israel (aka anti Apartheid Occupational Ethnostate) is anti-Jewish!! That literally erases millions of Jews rn who HATE Israel and their own govt!
These false arguments they keep coming up with. No one is criticizing Judaism. They’re criticizing the modern Israeli government, which was never mentioned in the Bible.
1. Absolutely correct, full stop.
2. Now read the antisemitic comments in response. 🙄No, the post doesn't give permission to that bigotry.
3. Regarding Mamdani, he's not "criticizing Israel." He's delegitimizing Israel, literally supporting murder, and dogwhistling for Jewish intimidation. Not OK.
#3 is a very harsh and serious accusation that requires some evidence of how Mamdani is deligitmizing Israel, supporting murder, and dogwhistling for Jewish intimidation.
The following things are “antisemitic”:
- opposing war with Iran
- viewing Palestinians as human
- opposing genocide
- Greta Thunberg
- peace
- journalism
- Ms Rachel
- truth
- critical thinking
- the UN
- Tucker Carlson
- Amnesty International
- Human Rights Watch
- equal rights
Anti-america?
trumply got voted in by voting or abstaining (150 mio americans).
If trumply and his maga/maganomore-clowns are embarrassing, this great majority of americans is even more embarrassing.
Beeing stupid is one thing, but openly showcasing and bragging about it, is idiotic. And:
2ND TIME?!
Oh I’m 100% anti-American because of Agent Orange. I’ll criticize him 24/7/365 on everything that he does, but what he’s done to this shithole of a country can never be undone.
It’s not antisemitic to criticize Bibi or the Israeli government, so long as you don’t engage in blood libels. But so much of the criticism of Israel takes the form of anti-semitic blood libels. And when you delegitimize Israel and say it has no right to exist as a Jewish state, that’s antisemitic.
An Israeli ambassador said it was blood libel to say Israel is killing children in Gaza. They didn’t even say targeting, just killing. That’s not blood libel, it’s not antisemitic, that’s just a fact. Calling everything antisemitism makes it lose all meaning.
Right? If one says, "bibi drinks baby's blood with his fava beans." THAT'S blood libel. If you say, "He's been lying about Iranian nukes for 25 years"? No. If you say, "Maybe he DID forget the lesson of the Shoah..." That's not.
I think the ambassador may have been saying that it’s a blood libel to say Israel is killing children intentionally and deliberately. That is a classic blood libel.
Right. Anti-Semitism, sadly, is a real and alarmingly rising problem but to say any criticism of the Israeli government is anti-Semitic makes it harder to highlight and fight real anti-Semitism.
It's hate to criticize Israel for bombing hospitals but moral to criticize Russia for doing the same? Israel itself was quick and loud to denounce Iran for indiscriminately bombing civilian areas!
The demographic question can be settled easily: giving the Palestinians a separate state.
With respect, it’s already been established that Hamas hides its weapons and operations within civilian infrastructure like hospitals and schools. And Palestinians have had five separate opportunities in the past 77 years to establish a state in the West Bank and Gaza, and declined.
Yep @bmeiselas.bsky.social. Why can't people get this? If somebody criticizes Saudi Arabia or Russian are they called a bigot? These are governments. They should be held accountable for their actions. That's different than attacking the people of a country.
I find it interesting that we don’t have issues separating other religious groups from a country. We understand Muslims, Buddhists, and Christians as people of faith outside of any government. We can support Jewish people and not support the government of Israel. These are different things.
Exactly right! What makes you an antisemite is imputing to all Jews everywhere support for the current crooked government in Israel, or denying Israel’s right to exist, or using the word Zionist as a sneering slur.
2/ Also slinging the word genocide around to describe terrible war crimes and crimes against humanity that occur in many simultaneous conflicts (some genuinely genocidal) that you entirely ignore. Genocide isn’t a synonym for war crime.
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Criticizing the politics or leadership of a country is not antisemitic. Netanyahu is a terrible person and Israeli politics is not something I agree with but I do not hate the people of Israel
Just like I think Trump is despicable and I do not agree with much of what and how the US government is doing things but I am not Anti-American as MAGAs would probably imply.I deeply love my country and its people and the principles on which it was founded.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/03/22/biden-netanyahu-friendship-pressure-campaign-00148328
I know this because I watch Meidas Touch so I’m super informed.
My post above is not in response to Hugh’s comment.
In 3 min, why we KNOW Iran nuke sites weren't destroyed:
👉 Because the Israelis are STILL hitting them! 👈
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uG9Y5htERI8
People should recognize this as the threat that it is.
https://youtu.be/WZ88iCeHlzM?si=M-Jv6DvCTMBZoJrT
https://www.jolt.film/watch/the-bibi-files
https://www.youtube.com/live/ePASIWj01fs
Don’t let MAGA’s Ministry of Truth redefine anti-Semitic the same way they’ve redefined DEI!
My dad fought fascism during WWII and lost much including most of his boyhood chums and his own brother. I remember him telling me; “I don’t hate Germans, I DO hate Nazis.”
I don’t hate Jews. I DO hate the criminal, loathsome Israeli government, especially Netanyahu🤮
Today it’s about right and wrong.
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But they Are Semites.
The distinction is about language not religion or culture.
Also, ever wonder where the other 10 tribes went?
Didnt just disappear.
Also, talking about which people count as Semites has the same weird old-timey racial categorization feel as talking about who counts as a real Aryan. Not great.
You must have missed this context.
Don't "tl;dr" me, you asked for it.
Compound words can mean something different from their roots. That's how English works.
Should a white child of South African immigrants qualify for African-American scholarships?
The surprise was the cause of this impeachment is worse than the last of impeachment over Ukraine. Yet actually voted No. Tens of millions of people were out and marched against Trump. When AIPAC wishes to bomb, it can bypass congress?
Is that it?
“Never Again”
What’s good for the goose….
And I’m not antisemitic, just real.
Save money, make him the POTUS, so we can impeach him and send him to GITMO.
2. Now read the antisemitic comments in response. 🙄No, the post doesn't give permission to that bigotry.
3. Regarding Mamdani, he's not "criticizing Israel." He's delegitimizing Israel, literally supporting murder, and dogwhistling for Jewish intimidation. Not OK.
- opposing war with Iran
- viewing Palestinians as human
- opposing genocide
- Greta Thunberg
- peace
- journalism
- Ms Rachel
- truth
- critical thinking
- the UN
- Tucker Carlson
- Amnesty International
- Human Rights Watch
- equal rights
trumply got voted in by voting or abstaining (150 mio americans).
If trumply and his maga/maganomore-clowns are embarrassing, this great majority of americans is even more embarrassing.
Beeing stupid is one thing, but openly showcasing and bragging about it, is idiotic. And:
2ND TIME?!
The demographic question can be settled easily: giving the Palestinians a separate state.
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