i think y'all are forgetting that this place is not bluesky, it is 1 bluesky server, and there will soon be many many bluesky servers, run by all kinds of people who like and enjoy all kinds of shit, & no central banning mechanism
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My limited understanding is that when a server becomes toxic enough, it will need to be deregulated. It will still run, but it won’t pollute the community (like Truth Social). This will work only if leadership understands what we’re up against and how to deal with bigotry and scapegoating properly.
none of these things are going to happen automatically, that's the moderation part, BUT, dogpiling on a troll doesn't serve any purpose except to vent one's own spleen… it doesn't create or enforce moderation rules for this server, OR drive off the bad actor, & especially won't work across servers
I worry about poison needles being stuck in the haystack by trolls. The blocking seems you could write a frequency hopper to get around it unless positive reputation is also a factor for access
it's a bit tricky. you can refuse content from any DID being announced by a bad PDS, but then that DID could move to another PDS. you can refuse content from any DID that started off on a bad PDS, or any DID that ever belonged to a bad PDS
oh! sorry! yes of course. i can even link to the things. DID is a Decentralised Identifier - behind a handle (e.g. https://jesopo.bsky.social) there's a longish unique ID that won't change no matter where i live on the network. PDS is Personal Data Server - equivalent to a mastodon homeserver
Defederation is not the best way for moderating social internet, and it even makes the problems worse. AT Protocol and Bluesky’s composable moderation approach make defederation not necessary. I discussed this topic in a blog post https://paragraph.xyz/@kc/content-moderation-of-social-internet
Perhaps there should be blocking on the server level, so that the nice servers can block the nazi servers without their users having to deal with people from them.
To me that's the main selling point of Bluesky. Without federation, it's just another Twitter and destined to have the same future. I'm glad the team is continuously emphasizing the importance of decentralization and actively working on it, despite the current cohort of users not caring about it.
I think it's important to realize that Bluesky team is building a protocol and a platform, not a Twitter clone. They're not in the business of moderation. They can barely keep up with "moderating" when there's 50K users and it's invite only.How will banning individuals scale when you have millions?
I seem to recall the same argument made about Reddit and it never happened. Reddit spawned countless subreddits but very few alt-reddits using the codebase
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maybe defederated? i don't know if the BS team has written about defederation but it wasn't in the "composable moderation" post.
there will be no central "leadership."
And ToS of service providers to any particular server. Which in part depends on which country a physical server is in.
Beam is 💙
Incidentally I wrote some similar thoughts https://bsky.app/profile/paulbiggar.com/post/3jumyxmeaov2u
e.g. mastodon can work quite well, with a good server, and terribly if you aren't on one. and bsky is supposedly much easier to migrate etc.
(Hackernews being one exception?)
besides, reddit allowed literally anything on their site. no reason to run your own.