It's not whataboutism, it's a direct comparison, based on actual events. MAGA did claim Biden had dementia, MAGA did claim signalgate is a witch hunt. If you're gonna try and disagree that's fine, but at least be concise
Do I still care about it? So I still care, that certain individuals appear to be above the rule of law in American politics? Yes, of course I do. The law should apply equally to all, not a sliding scale depending on your status. This is medieval, and grotesque
I think it matters in both cases. One does have a better excuse, though, if that’s what it was at all. Age does affect your memory. Gabbard is young. She should be able to recall something that happened one or two days ago. If she can’t, maybe there are better jobs for her.
Whataboutism is comparing what one person did to what another person did. E.g., but what about the leak of Podesta’s risotto recipe? Isn’t that as bad as Signalgate?
Comparing how MAGA treats Gabbard or Trump to how they treated Biden isnt whataboutism—it’s pointing out clear hypocrisy.
I misunderstood what was being said. Later in the thread I acknowledged we’re trying to make the same point. Now that I understand, I see this is not a whataboutism.
One thing's for sure no one's heard from Biden in the last 2 months. Seems pretty consistent with what the right has been saying the whole time the guys got fucking dementia.
So in absence of medical evidence, one could equally argue there's a probability Gabbard may be suffering with early onset dementia, if she cannot recall an extremely important thing (one that her career relies upon) after just 48 hours?
Best thing about human memory is it's like a supermarket- you can pick the bits you want and ditch all the bits you may not like. Works a treat, it's surprising what you can get away with if the person on charge is a senile dotard who only cares about their own self image
Yes and they'll all carry on lying and attacking the people revealing the truth till the whole place becomes a brutal dictatorship can't wait let's get the popcorn out
What difference does it make? The MAGA party in control of the House won’t refer her or any other MAGAt to DoJ for prosecution. And even if they did $Trump’s DoJ won’t prosecute. And even if they did $Trump would pardon. The Rule of Law is history.
The entire signal gang is following in the footsteps of Trump and Trump’s mentor, Roy Cohn, who “taught him to never admit guilt, and how, when caught in a lie, to replace it with another lie.”
She won’t need a pardon because she will never get charged.
The feds refused to charge matt Gaetz when they had him dead to rites on sex trafficking minors and you think they’ll do anything about perjury?? Come on man wake up
Did democrats get any accountability for lying us into iraq?
For 1/6?
For treason with Russia?
Iran contra?
Watergate?
Democrats are fully complicit with letting republicans get away with everything and always have been
Biden's idiocy was to vacuum the carpets and wash the windows while pretending that the fire in the foundation would go away if he ignored it long enough.
It didn't, and most of what Biden's administration accomplished lasted less than a month after he left office as a result.
Also, using the R word is extremely offensive to developmentally challenged people, of which President Biden isn’t one. Perhaps you should specify what “garbage” you are using to dehumanize someone? Again, you are right to be angry, most of us are, but your approach is antagonistic & unproductive.
You mean Rakesh? He’s probably Canadian and if so, rightfully furious at the US, but trashing President Biden isn’t rational when he was great with Canada. It’s his nemesis #IdiotTrump destroying the continent & trying to take Canada down with us.
Biden refused to do his oath bound duty to ensure that justice actually exists in the US.
That is part of the mission of the executive branch, and it's deplorable hypocrisy that people acknowledge that with felon34 in the white house the doj can't be trusted while denying that the DOJ didn't...
Supporting genocide wasn't great, and nor was the fiddle-arsing around with the felon's crimes. But there was definitely a worse choice to be made, and America made it
Every government official involved in the Signal chat should be prosecuted for violating the Espionage Act, but they won't be. Why? Because every fucking Republican in Congress, the WH, and the Justice Dept don't give a flying fuck about America's national security or American's safety. #LockThemUp
It’s reprehensible. The regime has ruined the credibility of our country. Even when caught red handed. they don’t have the decency to admit they were wrong. They all laugh and joke around, blame the other side & don’t give a fuck because they know nothing will happen to them. Fuck every one of them!
We had a Democrat in the White House the last 4 years with the ability to prevent this. My trust in the system doesn’t give me the confidence to believe this is likely.
she is a russian asset
performance designed 2B confusing, distracting, delaying
think of all the people in all the counties rising up against tyrannical rule
hungary, georgia, belarus, serbia, slovakia, turkey, syria
people like her need to know that they will not get far subverting our government
ALL of Trump's nominees LIE to get their positions! Dems especially SHOULD be able to SEE that! It was the SAME with the 3 Justices he nominated in his 1st term! Then they IMMEDIATELY show us what LIARS they were once they're sworn in! RETHUGS are nothing but LIARS, TRAITORS, NUT JOBS & IDIOTS!🤬
We cannot normalize the evil deeds of the enemy within, including lying, stealing, gaslighting, chaos sorcery and threatening its own citizens and other countries, including our allies. This is not normal. It's up to us to stop this nonsense.
What is frightening is that this is just one group chat about a specific case. Rest assured this is not an isolated issue. The training at project 2025 urged them to use this platform so no one can be held accountable. This must have consequences for every one of them. And not just for this group.
Truth. This is by no means an isolated event...utilizing this type of platform is derived directly from Project 2025. The fact these idiots did not do it correctly will not deter them from future security violations, and this was not first time breach.
I would say no, but I think we now live in a world where everyone gets to make up their own rules to live their own version of their truth on any given day. I think you can change your truth too if today’s truth doesn’t work for tomorrow. It might depend on what your lawyer tells you in the chat. 🤔
Perjury stopped being a crime during the 1st trump term.
Every kkkonservative justice perjured themselves to get their jobs.
Every trump appointee has perjured themselves to get their jobs.
Laws don't matter if you're a white trump supporter
Without question. She did it knowingly and clearly. And you could see it on her face as she did it. She knew she was crossing the line, and she went ahead anyhow
I have a serious question. How come the editor of the Atlantic cannot sue any of these officials and media talking heads who accused him Of infiltrating and lying.
Donald Trump has sued media and polling companies and won. With no basis.
It was like a very twisted form of entrapment. Maybe they wanted a journalist fall guy if something went wrong (which it did and now they’re accusing him). Weird circular plot.
Because Goldberg was complicit also. He knew better than to play games with his friends. He’s in deep with this group and trying to CYA right now. They are throwing him under the bus and trying to run him over to distract from their crimes. Playing with stupid never turns out well for anyone. 🙄
They were friends. Goldberg talked about in an early interview. He was not in the chat by accident. We are now watching both CYA to save their ass from a treason charge. Both knew better. These are not stupid people. They are just no longer friends. It’s every man for himself as they blame others.
Treason is a federal crime in the United States, as stated in Title 18 U.S. Code § 2381. It is defined as "levying war against the United States, or adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort.” 🙄
Either yes, or she hasn’t the slightest clue what constitutes classified information. If the latter, she has no business being DNI. Why is it that only the journalist knew that they shouldn’t be discussing these things on an unsecured application? 🤔 Incompetent clowns.
Abso💯lutely!
She needs to be charged with perjury. If indeed she can't remember such important highly classified information from just a few days ago, then she shouldn't be in her job as Director of National Intelligence. People in her job should recall everything of vital importance
Does it matter at this point? They all know, as does everyone else, that no matter their behaviour or subsequent legal consequence, their orange leader or their corrupt supreme Court will pardon them. Have a nice day. Carry on.
As much as she tried to saying nothing in her testimony, she definitely perjured herself! Noth much in MSM about it though! Almost like they were afraid to upset the orange mussolini!!!
I believe, sir, she is likely too ignorant to purposefully do this but the answer to your question is yes! Multiple times as well. This regime will continue to do so when called upon to congress. They will suffer nothing, yet continue to rain incompetence until removed!
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Gabbard forgets something: witchhunt
a "whataboutism" would be
whataboutism hillary's emails
ie using a non-relevant fact to deflect the original concern
Comparing how MAGA treats Gabbard or Trump to how they treated Biden isnt whataboutism—it’s pointing out clear hypocrisy.
It’s a Nazi thing.
And she won’t face a single consequence for it either.
The feds refused to charge matt Gaetz when they had him dead to rites on sex trafficking minors and you think they’ll do anything about perjury?? Come on man wake up
For 1/6?
For treason with Russia?
Iran contra?
Watergate?
Democrats are fully complicit with letting republicans get away with everything and always have been
330,000,000 Americans are trapped. Congress helped set & now maintains that trap. Nothing changes. https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/11/3-times-jeff-sessions-made-false-statements-to-congress-under-oath/
Will we ever see an iota of justice?
Probably not!
Biden's idiocy was to vacuum the carpets and wash the windows while pretending that the fire in the foundation would go away if he ignored it long enough.
It didn't, and most of what Biden's administration accomplished lasted less than a month after he left office as a result.
That is part of the mission of the executive branch, and it's deplorable hypocrisy that people acknowledge that with felon34 in the white house the doj can't be trusted while denying that the DOJ didn't...
I think Cabinet members should be held to an even higher standard than high schoolers.
She basically said nothing
not sure
In this world nothing will happen
performance designed 2B confusing, distracting, delaying
think of all the people in all the counties rising up against tyrannical rule
hungary, georgia, belarus, serbia, slovakia, turkey, syria
people like her need to know that they will not get far subverting our government
There has never been any consequences for these liars and con artists.
So rest assured that such perjury will be dealt with as promptly as any other illegal actions by the regime...
Every kkkonservative justice perjured themselves to get their jobs.
Every trump appointee has perjured themselves to get their jobs.
Laws don't matter if you're a white trump supporter
which is a dumb thing to do
Olly olly in come free! Can’t prosecute her!
Donald Trump has sued media and polling companies and won. With no basis.
I think the Trump administration is going to be asking why one of the members of the group had his number.
Signal is for leaking and leakers.
My point is that it's defamation and threats. Because it is
your point is that he deserves it for some reason?. Although, the reason one of the members had him on speed dial is interesting
🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Yeah fucking yeah she did!!!!!!
In the world where the rest of us live, they're all liars trying to spin this to keep their jobs.
Pathetic.
She needs to be charged with perjury. If indeed she can't remember such important highly classified information from just a few days ago, then she shouldn't be in her job as Director of National Intelligence. People in her job should recall everything of vital importance
I don't even have to review the video.
Why is that so hard for everyone to understand?