Dumbest quote i ever heard , i swear i could take any sentence and put the face of some old dude in it and people would think it's wise ancient knowledge
I agree. This is terrible advice. It assumes that the oppressed and oppressors are some permanent fixtures. Yet any oppressed group can turn around and do its own villainy. Look at Israel (this Gaza shit) and Rwanda (M23 in Congo) today. Victims aren't automatically good.
Need to remind the 90 million people that stayed home in 2024 about this. When you look up our participation rate in elections presidential is only at or near 55% lately. In 2020 it was 60% and that was considered high for the time. In 2024 less people voted than 2020. Pathetic!
It's horrible what happened to him and while he taught so many people the right lessons about humanity he failed to learn any of those lessons himself.
“Stealing”? Lmao. It isn’t stealing if you are taking it *back*. The land that makes Israel up belonged to the hebrews for as long as that race’s existed.
It’s not a surprise that an anti-Zionist would be completely ignorant of historical context.
(that 3% figure is suspicious to me but I don’t care to check) plus, cultural ties are just as important as genes alone; that’s how ethnicity works. Islam was an import from Arabia. It isn’t Levantine, Judaism and the Hebrew cultures are.
It's a Jewish supremacist belief system basically and how the state of Israel was founded.
As far as modern day Zionist are concerned the goal is not over until both Gaza and the West Bank are annexed and the Palestinians are forcefully removed/killed.
Thank you this makes so much more sense now! I kept trying to relaye it to another religion, that's why I wasn't getting it. It's Jewish Nationalism, it's just as vile as the nationalists over here
Don't give into the "divide and conquer" strategy that keeps us under the rule of sinister forces. Understand your opponent and find common ground with them. Deep down, most people all want the same things.
Yeah, it looks like another long two years trying to get the Democratic elite to work on peoples projects.
I’m hoping maybe we can get funding restored to cancel research for American children
Unfortunately, the Democrats, as usual, has turned about tails and legs screaming, a victory !
They just came to watch the fight or hanging. Too see the cruelty. Reval in the pain of others. Not taking a side is an evil perpetrated by cowards and sadists. The whole town used to show up for hangings, and some were gleeful that the innocent where hanging.
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It's the fact THAT we have THREE, 3, presidents; we have PUTIN, MUSK and lastly, Trump. OK? We are at the mercy of PUtin, who gives orders to Musk, who gives orders to Trump. And Americans who can't think or read put us here. Theyre called MAGAts.
fascism isn't a one party process. it is a process of consolidation of capital and is actively carried about by all within the ruling class. that includes the democrats as well as the republicans as well as the business class too.
I am reminder that Elie Wiesel wrote his first memoir in yiddish, full of rage and too sharp to flatter the reader. Then at the encouragement of a french editor, rewrote softer, gentler and more full of grief.
"for even our rage must be buried to be bearable to those who ignored our pain"
Fuck him. Eli Wiesel was an ardent Zionist and a Palestinian Nakba denier. His wisdom never extended to the Palestinians. Jesus do you people ever read ANYTHING that isn’t spoon fed to your media by Zionists?
"It’s unreasonable to expect Wiesel, or his Palestinian counterparts, to have “risen above” the ethnic and nationalistic identifications that define the modern era. That he did not do so is no slur on his memory. Instead it should serve to remind us that he, and all of us, are human; all too human."
Cool. Now take that and try this and see how fucking ridiculous your quote sounds: “my poor dead husband… that he drank, gambled, and cheated on me with multiple women is no slur on his memory. Instead it should serve to remind me that he, and all of us, are human; all too human”
The problem is he pretended to be a humanist and philosopher who preached UNIVERSAL tolerance and good all while he was just … average. We don’t have a problem with average. We’re all fallible and average. We have a problem with frauds and people who worship them not knowing they’re frauds.
You're turning yourself into a pretzel to justify this man's vision. It's not a "blindspot" when you've been shown the reality over and over again, only to deny it in the name of power. Don't be condescending.
I could go on but please know that these sources came after just a cursory search. You have the ability to do the same. This is what’s so frustrating for those of us who speak out. We have people come on Threads and ask us if we have a source.
These sources are all easily available to you. Please read, do your homework, stop watching MSNBC or Fox. I’m happy to help but these are not hard things to find.
That is so unfortunate. There are so many voices within the Jewish community that condemn the right wing fascism of Likud and Netinyahu. Wiesel was such a leader in so many ways, to have this blind spot is understandable, yet still so sad. Thanks for educating me.
Too many people excusing a shit person without realizing how hypocritical the man was. He was OK with yt supremacy as long as the benefits went to and included him and his fellow Zionists.
and Switzerland has famously never done anything wrong, ever? not picking sides in ww2 was definitely a really good idea that had no controversial elements attached whatsoever
characterising the US as the world police is also an example of nationalism - the allies were already winning and would have likely won without the US.
The US claiming credit is borderline stolen valor. they helped, sure, but didn't turn any tides.
First, I was talking about Switzerland and their whole taking and storing stolen Nazi gold.
Being anti world police is nationalist, because the world police story is a nationalist myth; you believe a myth, even if you think them doing it is bad.
The US getting involved prevented a lot of deaths.
This is why I can't be friends with someone who doesn't agree or disagree with anything. It doesn't make sense and you don't get to hide from issues that way. You're becoming the issue.
If you stand idly by when evil walks around hurting people, and doing that makes you an enabler. Yes you might get hurt entering the fight, but those are wounds of pride for taking a stance. Cowards die a thousand times, a hero dies once.
Forcing everyone to pick a side and always painting the other side as some oppresive boogyman is why we're so divided. You do the same thing as your enemy.
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Be pro-democracy. Use your vote. Help people directly instead of from your keyboard.
Don't waste your energy on causes you can't influence and don't understand (e.g., the war against Hamas). Learn about neglected causes and emergencies (e.g., child mortality, conflict prevention).
I used to be part of the crowd who stood by and did nothing. But I understood how high the stakes were and for the first time in my life went to vote. Then, I was quickly put in my place by the overwhelming legion of idiots and evil people. So I too have learned the importance of taking sides: none.
sure and on this axis or, it's clear that an eye for an eye makes the world blind, but how in the fuck does
i guess it's only a call for action and it's about intimidation and halting one person's actions
really idk where this guy has been so fuck all of it
idiot is what he is writing that
Amazing how many antisemites are on BlueSky. The post has nothing to do with Israel. But the Pally reactionaries are triggered. They never miss a beat for "No Jews No News".
You cannot both build a house and destroy a house at the same time. Not if you want to achieve your goals. And that is the state we are in currently. One side wants to build on social progress. And one wants to dismantle it. Pick a side or the struggle goes on.
I had the opportunity to hear Professor Wiesel speak a couple of times while at BU in the early 80's. I always left feeling inspired and optimistic. Great man.
Only true if you choose the right side and the right causes. He won the Nobel prize for his work on the holocaust (good) but adamantly denied the Armenian genocide (bad). There are also meaningless molehiils to take a stand on like dogs are better than cats or pineapple on pizza.
I agree with this. Sadly, the world is complex and our society has become more and more immature with each passing hour. So we cannot accept that some people who stand by us on one issue may stand opposite us on another issue. So we reduce ourselves to the most base behavior or hating everyone.
People…we have to listen to this man! Pray we are never in the situation of Germany & the world asking HOW? We know how! It’s happening in our own backyard! I’m certain the people of Poland, France, Germany…all thought a little man w/a funny mustache wasn’t a threat either! 🙆🏾♀️
Especially when it comes to fairness, mercy and truth. I could never be neutral. And people are out there with their own versions of the truth, which makes it a tougher battle.
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We should take a lesson. Had we not marched, Vietnam War for many more years and lost lives. We are now lazy asses.
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When i was young, I thought both sides were corrupt. When the left holds themselves accountable, it is seen as guilt, but when the right does it, they pretend it's fine, they don't act guilty so they're not perceived so. Imagine the rage if the left did what the right did on j6th
Yes most Docs take both sides,
Jura to.
you take a side first as you have a reason and the reason is not Freedom.
both sides of view is the basics of Democracy.
Dictatorship is not a View.
because they want to take your view.
Nonsense. Ireland has remained neutral and has consistently called out the Israeli Governments appalling track record in Gaza and Hamas's terrible crimes.
Ireland's neutrality is an established position, widely accepted in international circles / institutions. Calling out appalling behavior is perfectly acceptable part of being neutral. Joining NATO or sending a gun boat would be examples of not being Neutral.
Indeed. Neutrality means that you can call out appalling behavior of all involved parties.
Taking sides means that you only do it for one but not for the other(s). That is particularly harmful if everyone does horrible things because it encourages guilt tripping and blame shifting etc.
One of my old bosses had just read Machivelli's The Little Prince. He gave one of the best overviews I'd ever heard. He told me, "You got to pick up the sword. If you do half the people will hate you, but if you don't all the people will hate you." Boom!
Wow - the tormentor and the tormented in only 80 years the switch completes - yet to take the proper side now would it please Wiesenthal or not - because it sure wouldn't please Israel.
We, as Americans, have an absolute duty to speak up and loudly when our freedoms are under threat. We cannot stand by and let one group be sanctioned or discriminated against because when that happens we are siding with the oppressors, especially now that it's our own government!
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So important.
This time they plan for it to be the American people.
I stand with the deserved, and the underserved, too.
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It's horrible what happened to him and while he taught so many people the right lessons about humanity he failed to learn any of those lessons himself.
It's not a surprise that Zionist lack any and all humanity.
It’s not a surprise that an anti-Zionist would be completely ignorant of historical context.
Ashkenazi Jews on the other hand, the original founders of Zionism, are genetically European with like 3% levant DNA.
Keep being delusional.
(that 3% figure is suspicious to me but I don’t care to check) plus, cultural ties are just as important as genes alone; that’s how ethnicity works. Islam was an import from Arabia. It isn’t Levantine, Judaism and the Hebrew cultures are.
2. "I had it first!" is toddler logic
3. Even if it was true it doesn't mean they deserve ethnic cleansing.
Not a surprise a Zionist is devoid of 1. Nuance, 2. Critical thinking skills, and 3. Empathy in order of my points
The plan was for Jews to mass immigrate to Palestine, build an army, and ethnically cleanse the Arabs and steal their land.
Wikipedia has one of the least biased articles on it.
As far as modern day Zionist are concerned the goal is not over until both Gaza and the West Bank are annexed and the Palestinians are forcefully removed/killed.
Every state in the middle east is ethnonationalist. You just have a problem with the Jewish one.
The lengths you go to to justify the forced displacement and murder of Palestinians speaks volumes of your lack of humanity.
I'll be nice when the conversation allows it, but any nonsense will be met with as much ridicule as I can muster.
I’m hoping maybe we can get funding restored to cancel research for American children
Unfortunately, the Democrats, as usual, has turned about tails and legs screaming, a victory !
This reminded me of your recent Reason debate. You absolutely nailed it! I was cheering for you as I listened in my car. 👏👏👏
It's the fact THAT we have THREE, 3, presidents; we have PUTIN, MUSK and lastly, Trump. OK? We are at the mercy of PUtin, who gives orders to Musk, who gives orders to Trump. And Americans who can't think or read put us here. Theyre called MAGAts.
"for even our rage must be buried to be bearable to those who ignored our pain"
https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/07/04/elie-wiesels-moral-imagination-never-reached-palestine/
MLK was a womanizer. Shall we cancel “I have a dream?”; Churchill was a colonialist, imperialist drunk; Gandhi was weird with underage girls;
This “holier than though” BS is fucking exhausting.
Humans are the problem. Our prejudices, our faulty reasoning; our arrogance and ignorance.
The real problem is that we’ve let the monsters among us take control. Here, there, everywhere.
Since he is a very powerful voice against fascism in all forms, he seems to me like one of the majority of Jews that fight against Likud.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/07/04/elie-wiesels-moral-imagination-never-reached-palestine/
characterising the US as the world police is also an example of nationalism - the allies were already winning and would have likely won without the US.
The US claiming credit is borderline stolen valor. they helped, sure, but didn't turn any tides.
I reject this notion.
Being anti world police is the opposite of nationalism.
If the allies were going to win regardless then we definitely shouldn't have gotten involved.
Being anti world police is nationalist, because the world police story is a nationalist myth; you believe a myth, even if you think them doing it is bad.
The US getting involved prevented a lot of deaths.
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No more entertaining the conservative mentality.
i guess it's only a call for action and it's about intimidation and halting one person's actions
really idk where this guy has been so fuck all of it
idiot is what he is writing that
In a war, both or all sides believe they are fighting for the "right" thing, the winners write history and the losers just lose.
Balancing the message doesn't work when half the messages are political propaganda.
You cannot both build a house and destroy a house at the same time. Not if you want to achieve your goals. And that is the state we are in currently. One side wants to build on social progress. And one wants to dismantle it. Pick a side or the struggle goes on.
Same goes for comments.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/07/04/elie-wiesels-moral-imagination-never-reached-palestine/
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Jura to.
you take a side first as you have a reason and the reason is not Freedom.
both sides of view is the basics of Democracy.
Dictatorship is not a View.
because they want to take your view.
2) Well ... A few of my friends are for it. And some of my friends are against it.
I'm going with my friends on this issue.
"First create an us and a them: then the population will do whatever you want"
J. Goebbels, information minister of the Reich (as opposed to children's author). Sides are for sheep.
Hope this helps! Please say if it does not.
Taking sides means that you only do it for one but not for the other(s). That is particularly harmful if everyone does horrible things because it encourages guilt tripping and blame shifting etc.
Too controversial for grammar school.
After backlash the quote was returned to the blackboard.
His book “Night” gives you a feel for how it happens and what we are heading for..
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