The most condescending take is truly “voters didn’t know Trump was that racist.” They either liked it, a lot, or didn’t find it all that objectionable. A reality we have to deal with.
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for a lot of people racism is like the air they breath, they don't see it or recognize it. they don't see turmp as a racist, just someone who thinks the same as they do, so yes, they didn't find it objectionable at all, all they saw was someone who spoke out loud the same things they thought.
The most frustrating thing to watch was the NYT interviews with people who “just didn’t know anything about Kamala Harris.” As if they couldn’t google her policies or watch her speeches. My fatal mistake was thinking those were fringe morons instead of an actual force to be reckoned with.
I don’t know anything about the recounts but I will say that we can and must deal with the amount of people who willfully used misinformation about the economy as an allowance for their racist/sexist vote, and we can still have hope that they will learn. We have no choice. Hard work, but doable.
Great question! Almost no one is discussing this. Either it is truly wrong or MSM’s oligarch owners have told the newscasters to hush up lest they be fired. IDK. All any of us has is hope.
The most dangerous voters were not the Trump loyalists, his most deplorable people, were the ones who voted, because, "he is good for the economy," and compartmentalized the rest as unimportant or unlikely to happen. They are Fascism's soldiers they will pretend not to see the smoke or smell bacon
That he was the only means of expressing anti-incumbent sentiment is a mitigating factor, I’ll allow, but doesn’t change the fact that he ran a Nazi campaign that emphasized bigotry over economics.
Americans watch over three hours of television a day. They saw it.
Yes, which is why the “Dems didn’t message enough/rightly” only goes so far. The party has big, big problems but the inescapable part is that the public knew and chose Trump for this bullshit.
Hey man, if you’re curious there’s no shortage of treatises elsewhere about what the Dems’ problems are. That’s not the point of my post. What a lazy retort.
It's much bigger than that. The nation's unreconciled racism and bigotry has metastasized into a moral hazard that includes things as disparate as a sociopathic disregard of other humans on the planet, and voters freely electing a president after listening to him boast of sexually assaulting women.
They kinda saw it. Remember, the mainstream media sane washed the shit out of Trump, and especially for older people, they only know the mainstream media, and still think they’re getting Peter Jennings.
When I told my boomer parents I did not want to catch them watching Fox News, they asked why. All the news is the same, right? It’s just the facts of what happened that day.🤦♀️
There’s a lot of people who don’t think being a racist makes someone a bad person. Here in the south, anyway. It’s viewed like a bad habit. “I wish he wouldn’t smoke cigars.” Or “She has bad taste in music.”
i'd encourage you to watch jay smooth's TED talk "how i learned to stop worrying and love discussing race" for a different perspective on "racist" as an inherent personality characteristic rather than a pattern of behavior
I think that's true in many cases. But I also think, and I'm also in the South, that some folks don't see it as a bad habit. They see it as a normal thing. It's not unusual or out of the ordinary to them.
A significant percentage of humans, maybe 1/3, are very detached from anything but their immediate existence.
From perplexity fwiw “around 27% of Americans (those in the “not too closely” and “not at all” categories) have little or no regular engagement with political news.”
They knew what he was, but they'd been freed from calling it that. They'd been assured the word "racist" was a phony weapon used against people like them.
Vance's odd joke about libs seeing Mountain Dew as "racist" didn't bomb: It wasn't seeking laughs; it's aim was to undermine the word itself.
Totally agree. I have a friend who has a large Facebook presence solely on politics who is droning on about it was about the economy, per poll results. So how shallow do you have to be, to think, or try to sell to anyone in the public that these voters did not know who Trump is? Of course they did.
Bottom line here is that the people who voted for Orange Caligula were more focused on what he would do to destroy all the people they hate, than what he will do to destroy this country as a whole.
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Hartmann is speaking on 11/18 with Steven Spoonamore. *Apparently* there’s been at least 1 recount in PA & it shows #Kamala won
You can find his show YT, FSTV, radio.
http://thomhartmann.com
MSNBC has already started sucking up to Trump… and so it begins…
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/11/18/media/morning-joe-msnbc-trump-mar-a-lago
Americans watch over three hours of television a day. They saw it.
Too many voters still font believe a woman is capable of being (& qualified) to be president.
What kind of messaging do you even do w/ that.
Like here...how do we fix this? Can we fix this?
From perplexity fwiw “around 27% of Americans (those in the “not too closely” and “not at all” categories) have little or no regular engagement with political news.”
Vance's odd joke about libs seeing Mountain Dew as "racist" didn't bomb: It wasn't seeking laughs; it's aim was to undermine the word itself.
Thats the bottom line.