“We’re losing voters to the Greens guys, what should we do?” - ThreadSky

dorianlynskey.bsky.social • 3 days ago

“We’re losing voters to the Greens guys, what should we do?”

Labour MPs are starting to get nervous about net zero, after a disappointing set of election results

A minister cast doubt over Ed Miliband's political future

An MP said net zero could "play out the same way as Brexit"

Story by me & @matildamartin.bsky.social 👇

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geoffballs.bsky.social•2 days ago

Yes, let’s abandon any thought of trying to save the planet, who gives a fuck about that.

If they can’t even stand behind net zero then they might as well just hand the No 10 keys to Farage now, he’s already won. And, incidentally, the Labour Party is finished.

andropanayiotou.bsky.social•3 days ago

Wasn’t he recently voted the most popular cabinet member by their own members?

obsidianwalker.bsky.social•3 days ago

This is all getting increasingly frustrating.

jakeyboy10000.bsky.social•2 days ago

Stick to your principles, morals and policies to bring about about the change you promised - otherwise known as Leading.

Be so crippled by fear of losing power in 4 YEARS you ineptly try to chase voters.

Choices choices

lightvessel.bsky.social•3 days ago

Listen to the focus groups in Lincolnshire!

wappingbloke.bsky.social•3 days ago

With this labour government the answer is always to move further right. Nevermind the immorality of their policies, it is political malpractice

pjotroos.bsky.social•3 days ago

Someone actively sabotaging them wouldn't look any different. How on earth do you get to a conclusion that what you really have to do is continue the three-way fight over the same small subset of voters against Tories and Reform, giving Farage even more unearned credibility in the process.

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squizzla.bsky.social•3 days ago

Cursed country.

crizqo.bsky.social•3 days ago

Its so hard to keep any hope going.

nicktheinventor.bsky.social•3 days ago

VEE ARE NIHILISTS LEBOWSKI, VEE BELIEVE IN NUSSINK

johnw60.bsky.social•3 days ago

Reeves, McSweeney and Kendall are the ones who have created the mess not Miliband, Nandy or Philipson.

dorianlynskey.bsky.social•3 days ago

Quite

johnw60.bsky.social•3 days ago

The idea that the electorate are crying out to stop net zero and that that is a massive issue for the public is beyond bonkers.

chrismwheeler.bsky.social•3 days ago

Maybe it's because that would be easier for politicians?

catowasright.bsky.social•2 days ago

Another reason not to vote for them if it happens

thesecretbuyer.bsky.social•3 days ago

Voters flock to parties claiming to offer radical change, incumbent 'crikey, we better tone down the change!'

goatmountainwales.bsky.social•2 days ago

They'll be blaming windmills for cancer soon

keriothe.bsky.social•3 days ago

Just be more racist, that’ll do it.

samproctor.bsky.social•3 days ago

Oh jeez. Not again. Not with this. It’s too critical for our planet.

crizqo.bsky.social•3 days ago

😮‍💨

dorianlynskey.bsky.social•3 days ago

What does that emoji mean?

crizqo.bsky.social•3 days ago

Thanks for origin stories btw. Big fan

dorianlynskey.bsky.social•3 days ago

Cheers

crizqo.bsky.social•3 days ago

Exhausted exhuallation at the front bench wanting to double down of this shit. Big sigh, puff of the cheeks

iainstu.bsky.social•2 days ago

The internal contradictions of Labour’s historic coalition fracturing in the face of a perceived strong pull in the direction of (or perceived need to court) the constituency that isn’t that liberal or concerned about the environment?

ac-gb.bsky.social•3 days ago

with the usual caveats about referencing Dominic Cummings, on this, he’s right: the moment you start optimising for tomorrow’s Daily Mail, your political project is over

jonmcdevitt.bsky.social•3 days ago

I can't make any sense of this stonking great blind spot. It's just absurd.

nikral.bsky.social•3 days ago

Oh, FFS!

Panicking about the wrong stuff.

Yeah, ditch the one policy that is generally popular.

tomrg.bsky.social•3 days ago

Quick tell them Farage is right about things! That’s how we will beat him in elections!

pauljunhyuk.bsky.social•3 days ago

Who on earth is in the Labour focus groups these days? Do they only recruit Brexit NIMBYs? “I like that nice Nigel Farage, he tells me it’s OK to hate woke people and wind turbines.”

tadaaa.bsky.social•2 days ago

Lowest common denominator politics

mryeswecan.bsky.social•2 days ago

They’re aiming for “Red wall” voters that voted Brexit and Tory last time because of the outdated FPTP voting system.

We NEED to have #ProportionalRepresentation / #PR

pauljunhyuk.bsky.social•2 days ago

Sadly I think it might be hard to persuade anyone to adopt a system that will give Reform a lot more seats in Parliament. Probably worth it in the long run but a hard sell right now.

stanth0rpe.bsky.social•2 days ago

I’m of the opinion that “not changing voting systems because it will help my enemies even though it gives results that are more representative of public opinion” is just cowardice, pure & simple.

mryeswecan.bsky.social•2 days ago

FPTP voting won’t stop Reform – it could hand them an absolute majority with just 30% of the vote!

#ProportionalRepresentation isn’t about helping one party – it’s about making every vote count. If we don’t fix the system, we’ll keep getting government majorities only a minority voted for.

pauljunhyuk.bsky.social•3 days ago

Also, this feels much more like a “nobody can think of a reason to get out and vote Labour” issue than it is a “Reform is suddenly wildly popular in Labour areas” thing. The Hull and Lincs mayoral elections had 28% turnout and less than 40% voted Reform - so they won with less than 12% of the vote.

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