Josh Hawley was a history major at Stanford. Mike Johnson went to law school. Both have had plenty of opportunities to learn about the founding era. Either their educations were so ideologically blinkered that they are easily snookered by fake founders quotes, or they are intentionally lying. - ThreadSky

sethcotlar.bsky.social • 34 days ago

Josh Hawley was a history major at Stanford. Mike Johnson went to law school. Both have had plenty of opportunities to learn about the founding era. Either their educations were so ideologically blinkered that they are easily snookered by fake founders quotes, or they are intentionally lying.

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jillolson.bsky.social•34 days ago

They are influenced by Christian "historian" David Barton.
For a deep dive listen to Warren Throckmorton's excellent podcast "Telling Jefferson Lies."

marksmit.bsky.social•34 days ago

The later no doubt

khshan.bsky.social•34 days ago

George Washington made it very clear what is essential for the United States to be an independent power. It would be helpful if citizens would be more familiar with realities of history instead of what they want it to be.

dingodingo14.bsky.social•34 days ago

Law schools have conservative organizations within them, including the Christian Legal Society, and legal history was an elective, IIRC. Constitutional law did not focus on the founders, either—at least, in my experience. It was mostly discussing the evolution of SCOTUS jurisprudence.

dingodingo14.bsky.social•34 days ago

Johnson could have gone through law school without learning much of anything about Jefferson. Any history books he may have read on his own were likely written by right-wing evangelicals.

mrnoitall.bsky.social•34 days ago

They are both liars. They know they can tell the stupidest people stupid things. The first time I heard “alternative facts” I thought WTAF! Now we are in some kind of alternate reality.

moreacomment.bsky.social•34 days ago

Those people automatically assume their professors lie to them, so the best education can’t help (Stanford History has Rakove!)

sethcotlar.bsky.social•34 days ago

One great irony of today's theocratic/GOP discourse about church and state is that the founding generation, whose world view they claim to worship and channel, believed that separating church and state was good because it protected *the church* from being corrupted by politics. [clears throat]

dalbak.bsky.social•34 days ago

Way too late for that in the US. The evangelical movement sank into the stinking mire years ago now.

Whatever connection they might have had to Jesus' teachings is LONG gone.

jerrysoucyrn.bsky.social•34 days ago

lying

jasonpaul.bsky.social•34 days ago

robynelyse.bsky.social•34 days ago

They've created a Bible out of history. The "founding fathers" are meant to justify everything they believe, and therefore must be infallible and inerrant — so if something the FF said or believe doesn't provide that justification, they have to make the necessary adjustments.

robynelyse.bsky.social•34 days ago

History is not "things that happened," it's a malleable tool to be used to promote their own worldview.

rypwatts.bsky.social•34 days ago

Two things can definitely be true at once.

kylora2112.bsky.social•34 days ago

It's obvious that none of the Christian Nationalists believe in Christianity per se. They only use it as a weapon to rally their base.

seelesaid.bsky.social•34 days ago

Why not all three?

krisstoever.bsky.social•34 days ago

I'm going with opportunistic snookering

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