It reminds me of this quote by James Baldwin “We can disagree and still love each other unless your disagreement is rooted in my oppression and denial of my humanity and right to exist”
The problem is that whoever defines "intolerance" sets the tone for the whole thing.
This "paradox" is a ploy to gain power in the end. To those who deem "intolerance" as whatever they claim it is.
You're moronically defending the people who do sieg heils, repeat the same ''an evil [minority] elite is turning our kids into [minority] bolshevism'' as the nazis (now with the trans community ussualy rather than just the jewish, tho some times they do also just still attack the jewish, especially
Soros and the Rothschild), were the hubris of the American Nazi Party (see the FBI's report on the ANP, it is a known fact the ANP's creation was inspired by republican senator Macarthy, who generally was a nazi fuck himself), who are supported by other literal nazis (see the URR and the KKK march
before it, as in both there were a bunch of magats alongside the KKK hooded pieces of shit, and the literal swaztika carrying nazis), and like generally analyzing the republikkkan party, those mfers are just nazis. Corporatocracy, corporatism, autoritarianism, discrimination, cult of personality,
The woke aren't tolerant with those who are not woke, you either follow their mentality or you get labeled as the worst things possible, because they believe that they are morally superior to the rest. They also believe that is ok to ruin the livelihoods of those who don't share their ideology.
"people who expect others to treat everyone well are the real bad guys because they will call you names if you treat someone you don't like bad and hold you accountable for your actions"
Lol ah yes having the talking point that boils down to "I think certain people don't deserve human rights" is absolutely a sane mentality to have & no one should call you out for your dangerous and society destabilizing rhetoric.
To an extent I agree with this. Tolerating literally everything is a terrible stance. However, at least my interpretation, "Can't we all just be friends" isn't black and white. Like I am generally accepting of others and their flaws, but I'll still hold them accountable for wrongdoings.
The only thing that rubs me the wrong way is the cop on the right side. Yes, you should be friends with cops. No, you don't need to tell me about the bad stuff cops do, I'm aware. That needs to stop so that people do always feel safe around them too.
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If intolerant ideologies are allowed unchecked expression, they could exploit open society values to erode or destroy tolerance itself through authoritarian or oppressive practices.
This is where we are Lisa bc of exactly that thinking of tolerating intolerance
And if trained enemy agents are using this new and unprotected information source to weaken us from the inside with misinformation and psychological warfare convincing citizens their gov and peers are out to get them and the cure is poison, what then?
We have more in common with each other than we do with anyone in that White House. We are all up the exact same creek, paddleless when this country goes to hell.
This is Bob (in the red shirt) Bob is a Nazi. He is friends with Sally (in the blue shirt) Sally is what we call a "Nazi sympathiser" and a piece of shit.
This is actually called meta dehumanization and is a way of increasing polarity not promoting tolerance because now you are simply considering anyone indirectly associated or who doesnt want to attack everyone as part of the outgroup which is ironically itself a form of intolerance.
Please tell me you are NOT advocating tolerating intolerance. By allowing bigots space to spread their hate, it emboldens them and allows intolerance to smother tolerance.
Rune? The Nazis would have throw you in a death chamber and happily watch you die. Over 200k people with disabilities were murdered in WWII and they have every intention of doing it again.
I am not, but posts like this at their core makes us forget about how metadehumanization enables forms of intolerance of its own especially through priotorizing outgroup hate as the metric for how tolerant someone is
Here's the thing. Bigots are shameful and deserve to be shamed - and shunned - for their actions and bigotry. If they refuse to see anyone else as human, we will refuse to see them at all.
When they stop doing Nazi shit, we'll stop calling them Nazis.
You realize the idea for a police force in a nation has been a thing since ancient Rome right? Also, it was 300 years ago, by that logic the democratic party is as bad as the Confederacy too since they supported slavery only 200 years ago, I guess we should all support MAGA instead
Most people aren't the caricatures of people you see on the left and right of the picture. Most of us are somewhere in the middle, or looking from off image at you like you're crazy.
This is not true. True tolerance is not a paradox if done right. The KKK member here would not be a KKK member if he wasn't continuously blamed for random shit because he is white.
The police are friends with everyone until you get on their bad side. There are also many black cops who want to help
LMAO I lived there 2 months and their mainstream politics is nothing like that. SA is a majority black country and up until 1994 white people could arrest black people for sitting on a park bench, so don't try to tell me white people are innocent or there's no such thing as white privilege.
We are talking about today Matt. Not the past. When you have major politicians screaming kill the Boer (farmer) we will kill this whiteness and nobody is stopping them, it is a problem.
Matt I won’t even engage with him, a reason he’s being ignored. As he said he’s a fat ass with an opinion and nothing more. White man offended bc he has privileged and his feelz are hurt bc other people want human rights
Let me ask you something, are Ashkenazi Jews (and some Sephardi from the Balkans) privileged despite being brutally genocided in WW2 and even today severely discriminated because they are white?
Are Balkan people who survived bombings and major war (especislly Bosnians) privileged for being white?
Tolerance in society isn’t a paradox, it’s a contract.
Being tolerant is “i’ll be welcoming and kind to you until you start disrespecting me or others”. If you aren’t tolerant of others, others shouldn’t have to be tolerant of you
I'm on the Right and throughout all of my life, I have never ever seen a Klan member or the southern hick stars and bars caricature and I'm from Texas!
The thing about this meme is it's unrelatable because no one actually runs across those caricatures. The exist in myth and legend.
Mate, its not literal Klansmen, there are only about some 500 or so left from the last incarnation of the Klan as it was extremely unsucessfull. But rather the shared line of thought of many in the reicht wing.
Example: ''transexuals/queers/homosexuals are child predators'', that was literally the
Yeah, I know this comic is supposed to represent an idea. That idea being "This are folks of the Left and Right." But like you said, there're next to no Klan members left. Yet somehow they are fair representative of the Right? No mainstream conservative is supporters of the Klan. That's projecting
Ah you're a nazi, or sorry an ''enligthened centrist'' who would've prolly supported the NSDAP if he was born in ze Deutsche context as the socialists would've been to extreme.
And i'd rather end my own existance than be called a libruhl, i'm not a libruhl they're stupid idiots who think capitalist
KKK's whole shit against black people, they called them predators and danger to women, the same logic used for the segregation of white and black people is used for the attacks against the trans community.
Or the ''they're turning the childs into autists and LGBTQI+''. Just the sheer attack on
both of those groups already expresses a social bigotry alligned with the line of idea that evolves into genocide (denial of humanity, and supremacism), but also the ''they'' comes with a heavy ideoligical influences from nazis and how they talked about the jewish, especially as the supposed
turning of kids into minorities (which doesn't happen, you can't be made autistic or LGBTQI+), was one of the things the nazis accused the jewish of, and the whole they and a supposed secret leftist bolshevik elite, ja das ist literally in the protocols of the zion sages, one of the nazi bibles.
There is no paradox of tolerance. Tolerance is a social contract, not a moral constant. Those who are intolerant shall not receive tolerance for they refuse to participate. They cannot ask for what they are not willing to give.
All that is to say I agree, fuck centrist enablers and fuck facists!!
In these days, no one is coming to save us. The mainstream dems are showing their ass with book tours and tweets about SNL. But, don't despair - prepare! And help others to do the same!
It was Biden, Harris & ALL Dem leaders who had the 'can't we all be friends' mentality. And it was only them who were in a position to crushed the coup by expelling & jailing the traitors. Biden wanted a 'don't prosecute traitor leaders' AG, so Garland was Biden's perfect AG.
The thing is that the blue/red couple in the middle represent the vast majority of people. The extreme fringes are however dominating the debate either by themselves or as culture war boogie men.
This polarization is what is threatening democracy. The *fobes on the right thrive on conflict.
You're not saying that the Black person, the gay person, and the trans person in the graphic are representatives of the "extreme fringes," are you? Because that would be an ugly and ignorant thing to imply.
...the moderates and liberals, who pretend to be good guys while talking about trans people and/or Black people (or anyone else) as though they're divisive issues and distractions instead of actual people deserving of protection, feed the extremists too.
The problem is that when the visible push back comes from the far left, it only strengthens the far right. This was how fascism took hold in Europe - out of fear of communism.
The countries that avoided authoritarianism were centrist welfare states...
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I see so many pundits saying until the democrats embrace the "reverse racism" fears on the right we as a party will never win again. We must embrace these people and stop demonizing white people. We have lost white people and it's up to us to bridge the divide. My thing is how can you work with
With people who see you as the enemy? They won't work with us much less vote for us. How we heal the division and more forward as a nation idk. One party has went full nazi but we get the blame because we ask for equal rights for everyone.
Only when the non-violence means an unwillingness to be confrontational at all. There are plenty of historic examples of non-violence standing up to violence effectively. That being said, clinging to any tactic as if it's a dogma that works in all situations is never wise.
If intolerant ideologies are allowed unchecked expression, they could exploit open society values to erode or destroy tolerance itself through authoritarian or oppressive practices.
In other words being tolerant of the intolerant has gotten us to this point
Okay so what's the point of this? You want to start banning people who have oppositional views to you? Jailing them? Fining them? Want to change the constitution because Democracy didn't work out the way you wanted?
There is no "checking".
People will say and think shitty things. Deal with it.
Not how that works. Tolerating the intolerant leads to what we have now. It's a fucking paradox and doesn't work. Not tolerating intolerance is not the same as intolerance. Go back to elementary school.
What skin color are you because my ancestry has been tolerating intolerance since Europeans started doing their thing and somehow I exist.
Imagine thinking we're socially in a worse position than even pre civil rights era America.
Foh. What a lame. narrow minded view.
In the end its more about balance than anything. You cant allow people to go around being malicious because theyre intolerant. But you also cant go screaming intolerance any time someone does something you dont like. THAT is why we are where we are. Some over-leveraged the idea of tolerance for gain
Ya, It's why I hate the political landscape. It's like a Pendulum.
So predictable in possible outcomes.
This is why so many people become apolitical.
I wasn't even going to vote because Kamala was not what I wanted but still did anyways.
Last time they get my vote until they bring Yang Gang back.
Its exactly like a pendulum. (South park called it) The only good solution now is for more people to recognize that, and instead of pushing for it to swing harder and harder, we need to slow it down so shit stops going crazy. But of course some benefit from chaos....
It's so funny seeing so many leftists talking about pushing this idea of leftist populism like that's some how the answer.
Like they don't learn.
As far as I see it, Progress comes from steps more than leaps.
Aye. Solutions are devised through debate and compromise. And in extreme cases mutual separation such as moving from one city or state to another. It's not a perfect system but the states rights system allows disagreement within greater unity
i would like for cis people to be less chill with state governments wanting to look at children's genitals before they're allowed play basketball, for one. like, is this not super fucked up?
Sure. But I think this whole premise is based on separation of groups who having opposing beliefs.
This is a pendulum effect driven by too many progressive pushes that did not address the average american needs.
i mean, yes? we should socially punish those with hateful beliefs? why would you tolerate someone who hates a black person on the principle of "they're black" w/o any consideration for the contents of their character? that's weird, dude
like, dude, this is more than interpersonal shit. a man who inherited half his wealth from apartheid threw two nazi salutes and then was allowed to fire nuclear techs managing the hundreds of bombs we still have. this is what happens when we tolerate this shit for long enough!
No. Again, Imagine thinking socially life is worse now than even Pre Civil Rights America.
This is something my people have been tolerating for hundreds of years and yet we made progress as a country.
You push too far you get the same energy inverse.
why isn't it allowed to get better? why do you want your children to suffer the same way you have? isn't the goal of humanity to strive for a better way of doing things all the timeM
"Deal with it" means opposing these people and keeping them out of our spaces. It's hard to sing kumbaya with somebody who thinks you don't deserve human rights.
I mean yeah, but like. That's just being a healthy person with boundaries in your interpersonal life.
I don't think that's what people are ascribing here.
Seems like they're talking actual legislation here.
There's no law by man or nature that says people have to say and think sh**ty things.
People can be better if they want to. They can respect their neighbours and work for the common good.
Just because you think 'they can" doesn't mean they will.
That's why we have things like constitutional rights.
Unless you want to start doing re-education camps or something. Just as un-american as the people you oppose.
I forgot what the quote is exactly but I think it’s something like “if you make being a Nazi not dangerous then the Nazis will make being non-Nazis dangerous“
There is no paradox of intolerance. People who are intolerant have broken the social contract and as such their views do not have to be given tolerance.
That’s not a paradox. A paradox in a contradiction. They broke the contract they aren’t covered by it eliminates the contradiction of being tolerant to intolerance.
Is above really covered by it too though? In many ways this post itself is a form of metadehumanization aganist a percieved threat that claimed sympathizers bring. But what is a symlathizers. It can be anyone who you can try to associate as not having enough outgroup hatred.
The paradox Popper refers to - at several points in his writing, not just the OSE footnote - isn't a general, "apriori" one, but rather one he claims is inherent *in an assumption, (absolute) value(ing) or argument*, according to which tolerance must be granted absolutely.
Yeah I know what it is. I’m saying looking at it as those who break the societal contract by being intolerant are no longer deserving of tolerance. Hence no paradox.
I’m going to explain this one more time nice and slow. If you look at it as though people who are intolerant have broken the societal contract then they are no longer covered by it and do not get tolerance. Therefore there is no paradox because we don’t have to tolerate them.
In short: "unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them."
The center in this picture should have more people and the edges less. The edge on the right is currently driving the bus, and they pretend that the they have taken all that power from the left edge, when in reality the power was, is and always has been with the majority in the middle.
Notice how it's never asked for bigots to change and unite with the rest of us. Rather we should be willing to cast ourselves or our brothers and sisters into the closet or worse to unite with bigots. Fuck that.
Ugh...that sounds like a guilt trip in the making. No, we can't just be friends when someone posts something like "F*ck Palestine" in their bio or when someone attacks us for refusing to go along with someone else's divide and conquer tactics. Once they do that, it's over. 😒🙅♀️
In fact funny enough she used israel palenstine herself as a example of how logic like the above eventually helps create and builds narratives that propagate lack of empathy. Both sides believe they are they tolerant one afterall and the other is the intolerant one
I think my former intergroup relations professor who herself is from palenstine would have a different view. From her perspective, part of the problem is exactily that both side couintiousily meta dehumanize and lack empathy for each other rather than it being on one side or the other
I mean it shows the issue of dehumanization. One side can still be worse than the other in terms of actions but constant metadehumanization also can simply lead to just a decline of a cycle of empathy. Perhaps you need to learn from history too
You have never met a nazi. you never will meet a nazi.
you have never met a person who talks like a nazi, salutes like a nazi, or acts like a nazi. what you have met are called people, and the reason you think they're nazis is because you are something called gullible.
I've read documents from the FBI about them, i've read documents from the CIA and their hiring of 'em, i've read and analized their ideology, i live in a country in a region known for fascist dictatorships (ofc always funded by the US), and i know my fair share of crypto-fascism, 14, 88, 1488,
protect the kids, protect women, the ''child predator'' narrative and its usage against black people and the LGBTQI+ community, the an ''elite is manipulating our kids into judeo/homo bolshevikism'' narrative. And i have a lazy and a good one, and they've seen both Musk and Bannon do sieg heils.
Well, we are never going to be friends with extreme right wing violence, but all sides on the non-violent spectrum of political thought need to learn to understand each other & love(respect) their neighbour. Or we are never going to heal the fractures that permeate American society.
No one professes their love and respect for Hitler. We don't love and respect other nazis either. They made it us vs them when they decided we were better off dead than alive. I could never look past that.
There is no paradox of tolerance. The right wing uses this myth to play gotcha. Tolerance is not a moral mandate. It's a peace treaty allowing different people to work together. Once it’s broken, by either side, it's broken.
I have no problem if you have different political views than me. I am happy to discuss and find common ground. If you don’t believe in basic human rights then you need to do some self reflection. All humans are equal! ☮️
Listen to yourselves - half a discussion is about what is "paradox". Maga rolling laughing. Can't you just unite for one common purpose at a time? Most acute being "remove current regime from power"?
Also quit saying, “It’ll be fine” ‘cause if a LOT of decent people don’t get fucking mad and do something about “it” soon it will NEVER “be fine” again.
We need to stop calling it the "Paradox of Tolerance" and call it the "Social Contract of Tolerance". The people who would abuse it use the "paradox" to seek being platformed when it is clear they already violated the "social contract" before they even started.
The real answer is much, much harsher and touches on mastication, bodily excretions, descendants, ancestors, fire, mechanical contrivances, sharp implements, roadkill, random vegetables, relatives, pets, deviant sexual practices, the afterlife and it probably wouldn't even fit on that page anyway.
Ostracize them. Run them out of town. Fire them from their jobs. Kick them out of churches (yes, I said that, and scripture backs it up). If you see a Nazi or klansmen doing Nazi or klan crap in the street, stand up to them. Punch them if possible. Not even kidding.
Agreed. I am more curious about the random citizens who voted for him. I keep hearing about how they are nazis too, but I don't believe that all of them deserve this.
I live in a red town in a red county in a red state. I know what hardcore Trumpers are like and I know what people who don't pay attention but always vote Republican or only voted because of inflation are like too. They're not all the same.
No, it really is as simple as that the people who voted for the nazis who are overtly against minorities, are complying with it, especially those who pride in it and not incidental voters.
This is an important point. I was studied by a quote I read, "We're not dems and reps anymore, we're people fighting against..."
Is that letting them off the hook or peaceful coexistence working on a common goal?
There is no paradox. Tolerance is a social contract. Break it and the person is no longer a part of that contract. They've set themselves apart and are no longer due any tolerance whatsoever.
So punching a NAZI is not truly a paradox of anything.
A paradox requires a contradiction.
There is none.
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The "paradox of tollerance" stops being a paradox when you view tollerance through the lens of a social contract.
The intolerant are in violation of the terms and agreements of said contract and as such, have forfeited the rights and protections granted by the social contract of tollerance.
the paradox of tolerance is completely shattered the moment you realize that if we as a species treat it as a social contract, it works. You refuse to tolerate people? well guess what, you’re out of the contact, you don’t get the benefits and protections that it brought. Go fuck yourself bigots.
Yes - more people should engage with Popper’s writing on open societies. The challenge for me is how to define intolerance and where to draw the line and what to do with the intolerant. Too strict a definition seems intolerant
That is a straw man. Of course you don’t tolerate Nazis 🙄. Who/what do you consider intolerant? pro-lifers? Religious intolerance? Republicans? Antisemites? Where do you draw the line? What if they think you are intolerant? If you think it is simple the question is too complex for you
The paradox is that the people who are most tolerant cannot, in any way, tolerate the intolerant. It’s not too difficult. PUNCHING NAZIS IS THE CORRECT THING TO DO!!!
Actually that is itself is a form of dehumanization too. That is part of why it is a paradox. The point of the paradox is not to advocate for dehumanizing people but for being able to remove intolerant people; however, metadehumanization is still intolerance too so that must also be removed
Paradoxal indeed, right and wrong are perspective construct of the living mind, tolerance is just a way to deal with pain or hate, but deep down, there is only intolerance and restrain at play i guess.
What dehumanization occurs when you treat someone the way their behavior deserves? Nazi isn't some immutable quality, it's a pattern of behavior and a series of choices.
I argue with my wife (hates tRump) often about "accepting" the braindead degenerate MAGAtrash ("I won't let politics ruin friendships.")
This is NOT politics - this is the difference between right & wrong. "Accepting" the braindead degenerate MAGAtrash is plainly accepting tRump's fascism.
we can disagree on how to get there, but we gotta agree on a destination. if the goal is equality town and you take us to supremacy-burgh, we can’t share a car on this journey.
This solves a lot of that WhAT AbOUT LIbral TOLerANcE!? the social contract of mutual tolerance is already broken by an inherently intolerant belief structure. The moral thing is to defend those who are unable to do so for themselves against those who seek to do harm to the vulnerable.
The paradox of intolerance actually would suggest you are intolerant too. It doesnt actually recomend removing those who are less polarized but instead reserving the power to remove all kinds of intolerance includong metadehumanization which is ironically what this is. That is why it is a paradox
Social pressure forced Nazis underground for a LONG time, too. There were assholes on the internet, sure, but the outright loud-and-proud Nazis were confined to places like Stormfront, because not even the other assholes put up with them.
Posts like this are simply meant not to increase tolerance in society but to promote polarization and remove empathy for people which ironically makes them intolerant to a degree under poppler perspective
We are already deeply polarized and there isn't anything we can do about it because the disagreements are too vast and they are rooted in bad faith. They want you to waste your time because they like seeing people like us in pain.
Metadehumanization often just fuels it on both sides because both sides believe in some sense they are the tolerant one in this picture and the other side is the intolerant one. That is often what makes actual intergroup dispute more complicated than fantasy ones
Go and ask anyone who’s come to their senses and left MAGA, how they’ve been treated by their still-MAGA family and (former) friends.
Also, when I say MAGA, I do not refer to some low-information doofus who foolishly voted for Trump over egg prices. Many such people are still open to reason.
“A society that has done something special against the Negro for hundreds of years must now do something special for the Negro.” --Martin Luther King.
Systematic issues still exist. Just look at poverty rates in minorities compared to whites. Ignoring our problems don't make them magically go away.
No we cannot be friends. We don’t want to be friends wit Nazis or Nazi sympathizers or people who think trump is the second coming of Jesus. You people are stupid.
You are right.
However if they are taking over your country, your liberties, your health, your security and much more, if some one opposes this, do not immediately attack it.
Ya gotta love it when snowflake right wingers talk about the "intolerant" and "hateful" left. Yep: intolerant and hateful of racism, sexism, xenophobia, nationalism, MAGAt christianity...
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Can't Be Friends with Racist who want to kill and destroy Black people and anything we've created.
This "paradox" is a ploy to gain power in the end. To those who deem "intolerance" as whatever they claim it is.
There's was nothing to learn, except that silly people will believe silly things my silly friend. =D
So you project all your hatred upon people who disagree with your politics. Sure, sure.
Why do you label every single person that disagrees with you as a "nazi"? Why are you spitting in the face of jewish people who we through all that?
Why have you gone off the rails like this?
Fun question.
If you could hit a button and eliminate every person You think is a Nazi, would you hit that button?
we can hate eachother later
Fucking Nazis.
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WE are being suppressed folks.
STOP THEM NOW
You do not need to have tea with them.
100 million dead
We went to war against them.
My mother was trained to hate the Koreans and Vietnamese.
We went to war against them.
We were trained to hate Muslims.
We went to war against them.
Today we are trained to hate our fellow Americans...
This is where we are Lisa bc of exactly that thinking of tolerating intolerance
Like it or lump it, to fight Trump and Elon, we need them.
They are the source of Trump and Elon's power.
Take the power back.
5 million killed who didn’t go along with the Nazi propaganda
So yes their ashes remain in Germany
https://www.annualreviews.org/content/journals/10.1146/annurev-polisci-051117-073034
May also be interesting papers too for you if you are ever interested in intergroup relations
Keep defending them bc they are coming for you.
When they stop doing Nazi shit, we'll stop calling them Nazis.
It's simply accepting that other people may not share your opinion. We are not bits of clockwork to be programmed to have correct thoughts.
Most people aren't the caricatures of people you see on the left and right of the picture. Most of us are somewhere in the middle, or looking from off image at you like you're crazy.
P.S.
I identify as the latter.
The police are friends with everyone until you get on their bad side. There are also many black cops who want to help
True tolerance does work when everyone is equally facing the same results and situation.
America is lucky not to have this issue.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LqTUkcpFmFw
Are Balkan people who survived bombings and major war (especislly Bosnians) privileged for being white?
Being tolerant is “i’ll be welcoming and kind to you until you start disrespecting me or others”. If you aren’t tolerant of others, others shouldn’t have to be tolerant of you
The thing about this meme is it's unrelatable because no one actually runs across those caricatures. The exist in myth and legend.
Example: ''transexuals/queers/homosexuals are child predators'', that was literally the
Lol, you literally are the meme.
And i'd rather end my own existance than be called a libruhl, i'm not a libruhl they're stupid idiots who think capitalist
Or the ''they're turning the childs into autists and LGBTQI+''. Just the sheer attack on
All that is to say I agree, fuck centrist enablers and fuck facists!!
Where to draw the line? Do we tolerate the views of those who vow to destroy us?
Damn auto correct
This polarization is what is threatening democracy. The *fobes on the right thrive on conflict.
Letting those narratives dominate the political discourse is benefitting the extremes.
For the record, since you sighed, I asked for clarification last night because it was late and I was tired and unsure of what you meant.
Letting the right push dangerous narratives about marginalized people does benefit far-right extremism, but...
The problem is that when the visible push back comes from the far left, it only strengthens the far right. This was how fascism took hold in Europe - out of fear of communism.
The countries that avoided authoritarianism were centrist welfare states...
When you do not scold a person from a dictatorship government because their skin colour is browner than yours.
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So find a nazi today and punch the shit out of them.
If intolerant ideologies are allowed unchecked expression, they could exploit open society values to erode or destroy tolerance itself through authoritarian or oppressive practices.
In other words being tolerant of the intolerant has gotten us to this point
There is no "checking".
People will say and think shitty things. Deal with it.
Imagine thinking we're socially in a worse position than even pre civil rights era America.
Foh. What a lame. narrow minded view.
So predictable in possible outcomes.
This is why so many people become apolitical.
I wasn't even going to vote because Kamala was not what I wanted but still did anyways.
Last time they get my vote until they bring Yang Gang back.
Like they don't learn.
As far as I see it, Progress comes from steps more than leaps.
This is a pendulum effect driven by too many progressive pushes that did not address the average american needs.
This is something my people have been tolerating for hundreds of years and yet we made progress as a country.
You push too far you get the same energy inverse.
I don't think that's what people are ascribing here.
Seems like they're talking actual legislation here.
People can be better if they want to. They can respect their neighbours and work for the common good.
That's why we have things like constitutional rights.
Unless you want to start doing re-education camps or something. Just as un-american as the people you oppose.
Much speech has been and remains Illegal.
Now Fascist speech will be unrestricted.
As will Censorship of everyone else.
/Honestly our days here may be numbered.
//Watch even South Park eventually Obey... or disappear. 😬
///Just like China & Russia
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But be single-minded; don't let it become simple-minded.
Reality > Fantasies
Full spectrum problems need broad solutions.
Hurt them politically, socially, & economically.
Though, I'd be disappointed if there *weren't some* punching of Nazis involved, somewhere along the line!
Bring your pals Scales, Nickels,
& Maddow the Ultimate Life Form, too.
I don't think Karl Popper got this wrong
It's *all* a social contract.
The paradox Popper refers to - at several points in his writing, not just the OSE footnote - isn't a general, "apriori" one, but rather one he claims is inherent *in an assumption, (absolute) value(ing) or argument*, according to which tolerance must be granted absolutely.
I think you might be interpreting the word "paradox" to mean it's invalid or something.
It’s almost like you can just not be around people like that, with minimal effort.
You have BS opinions and that’s all they are
Enjoy the gas chambers when they come for the disabled first
here's the correct one that wasn't made by a dense close minded numbskull trying to build a strawman to burn
you have never met a person who talks like a nazi, salutes like a nazi, or acts like a nazi. what you have met are called people, and the reason you think they're nazis is because you are something called gullible.
https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/5/1617520/-Zunger-Tolerance-is-not-a-moral-precept
Send the bigots into hiding.
I'm talking about the bigots and fascists.
Is that letting them off the hook or peaceful coexistence working on a common goal?
One side? 🤣🤣🤣
So punching a NAZI is not truly a paradox of anything.
A paradox requires a contradiction.
There is none.
The intolerant are in violation of the terms and agreements of said contract and as such, have forfeited the rights and protections granted by the social contract of tollerance.
They can say anything they want, defend and promote the worst ideas, it's a dangerous conception of the freedom of speech
I’m so confused
I’m very very very happy to be intolerant to racists 🤣🤣🤣
Obviously I won’t tolerate racists, fascists etc you know criminals, a danger to society
I’m just confused, are you saying I’m supposed to tolerate inhumane people with hateful ideology?
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This is NOT politics - this is the difference between right & wrong. "Accepting" the braindead degenerate MAGAtrash is plainly accepting tRump's fascism.
2. Defense is not offense.
3. If you are asking (or forcing) people to change, who are otherwise not hurting anyone, you are in the wrong.
I learned this when I was 11.
How people are Holiday Dinners with those effing friends and family are part of the problem.
Cut them off from your kindness, love and money if necessary.
It is the basis of which a peaceful society hinges on.
Those who disrespect a Social Contract are no longer protected by the terms of said contract.
Social pressure killed smoking. It can kill MAGA.
Don’t talk, hang, eat, or do business with them.
Make them defend their shitty opinions…
…and let their kids see you do it.
‘Til they’re out by the dumpster with the smokers and the trash.
We are already deeply polarized and there isn't anything we can do about it because the disagreements are too vast and they are rooted in bad faith. They want you to waste your time because they like seeing people like us in pain.
It is a quagmire.
I believe your application of the term “Metadehumanization” in this context is flawed, since I’m not talking about dehumanizing anybody.
I merely advocate ostracism here; something the right wing understands implicitly.
Go and ask anyone who’s come to their senses and left MAGA, how they’ve been treated by their still-MAGA family and (former) friends.
Also, when I say MAGA, I do not refer to some low-information doofus who foolishly voted for Trump over egg prices. Many such people are still open to reason.
I mean the MAGA True Believer: the calcified, red-hat-wearing, shoot-dissidents-in-the-leg, throw-immigrants-in-Gitmo hardliner.
Someone so selfish and hateful as to support people and policies whose stated purpose is to harm those they define as “the other.”
This is the very definition of dehumanization, and such a person is not fit company for decent people.
To reject such a person is to defend decency.
Is it common ground ye be wantin'?
(Unless your a Nazi)
https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-54526345.amp
We now have two choices. Live free or kneel to your MAGA king like a slave.
Color? Gender? Race? Immigrant? Rural? Urban? Worker? Boss? Poor? Rich? Red? Blue? Your flag is one of these.
I know which one is mine.
Systematic issues still exist. Just look at poverty rates in minorities compared to whites. Ignoring our problems don't make them magically go away.
However if they are taking over your country, your liberties, your health, your security and much more, if some one opposes this, do not immediately attack it.