a frequently useful guideline in 2025 is “if a billionaire says something that might have a reasonable interpretation you agree with, they don’t mean the reasonable version you’re thinking of” - ThreadSky

catacalypto.bsky.social • 1 day ago

a frequently useful guideline in 2025 is “if a billionaire says something that might have a reasonable interpretation you agree with, they don’t mean the reasonable version you’re thinking of”

Reposted from Ed Newton-Rex

Tech execs declaring all-out war on creators who don’t want their life’s work pillaged for profit

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marloweml.bsky.social•1 day ago

Something has clicked in my brain. With so many big name characters entering public domain, is the real goal of AI just to let capital outpace/prevent/absorb actual artists making their own Popeye and Superman stories?

lore0451.bsky.social•1 day ago

wrt to executives, the purpose of AI is to replace human labor so they don't need to pay people. This includes artists/creatives and any other job that they think can be replaced with AI.

mdstevens0612.bsky.social•14 hours ago

Regular People: It's pretty crazy how Disney gets to hoard the ideas of people who are long since dead instead of those ideas being free to the public
Billionaires: If only I could fuck over creatives even harder, that'd be pretty cool actually.

catacalypto.bsky.social•1 day ago

I actually have issues with how IP law currently exists, and I think it could be done significantly better to support creatives actually making the art. do I think these guys would like to see that version? I do not!

catacalypto.bsky.social•1 day ago

this also applies to any concerns one might have surrounding “wellness”, the administrative bloat of the university, etc

catacalypto.bsky.social•1 day ago

people who should know better keep doing the “well, they have a point, but”. no. they do not have a point. some reasonable people might have a point which superficially resembles their point. you can talk about the reasonable point without pretending that is the one they are advocating or offering.

noelle.monster•1 day ago

issuing correction on a previous post of mine, regarding billionaires: you do not, under any circumstances, "gotta hand it to them"

jamesmcorlett.bsky.social•1 day ago

This is like when I'd see right-wingers with signs in their yard about how they hated Biden, and I was like, I don't think you have any of the right reasons to say this.

miguelbaal.bsky.social•9 hours ago

The thing is that they pollute the discussion so that when we wanna talk about the reasonable point, people immediately assume we mean what those guys mean. It gets really hard to talk about things over the internet, especially IP

kzinssiebroiler.bsky.social•8 hours ago

It's giving psyop

wes.readonlymemo.com•1 day ago

Perfect example of a case in which we do not, in fact, gotta hand it to 'em

scrumpyknight.bsky.social•1 day ago

my take on it is that ip and copyright should exist EXCLUSIVELY for the individual creators and corporations should not be allowed to monopolize characters, settings, ideas, or anything else actually

quadraticink.bsky.social•1 day ago

But it would be funny if Elon got into a fight with the *entire* entertainment industry and significant chunk of tech industry.

dirtymichael.bsky.social•1 day ago

if elon gets disney against him, it's all over

truebe.horse•1 day ago

so say we all

nekrotzar.bsky.social•1 day ago

TCP law > IP law

haq.bsky.social•1 day ago

yeah like in the tech world there’s much more open source stuff so there’s less “ownership” of one person over what they write. And I think that’s good! But this isn’t what they’re talking about

lostcity.bsky.social•1 day ago

Also not every industry is the same. A short shelf life for copyright in coding might foster innovation without impoverishing anyone, sure. But it takes me a decade just to write a book, and under a 5 year copyright regime (something I’ve seen suggested) I’m losing things faster than I can make them

haq.bsky.social•1 day ago

true, also many software engineers have stable long term jobs alongside their OSS projects.

also - coding is much more collaborative than writing prose, so authorship is more diffuse to begin with.

yjeanrenaud.bsky.social•1 day ago

and yet you use open source software, mix it and call it trade secret

haq.bsky.social•1 day ago

lol

haq.bsky.social•1 day ago

many such cases …

s4lt0r11.bsky.social•1 day ago

I can only hope this blows up in their face but I know this isn't a just world. And ofc they only thought of this after aiart

flanofcrows.bsky.social•1 day ago

I've been shortening the rule to "if a billionaire says something it's not reasonable" and it's a good starting point for any other consideration.

eepyrose.bsky.social•9 hours ago

Shit that rule goes beyond 2025, just don't assume anything a billionaire says is good and reasonable ever.

scottkraft.bsky.social•23 hours ago

I'm almost certain Jack and Elon will be cancelling all patents, copyrights and trademarks they and their companies hold, cuz "ip is woke."

experimentego.bsky.social•1 day ago

They say abolish current IP law but they absolutely do not mean "in a way that would make our billion dollar technologies and intellectual secrets available for the public to use and build on."

lutwikson.bsky.social•10 hours ago

No property, simple.

alexjaco.bsky.social•7 hours ago

Syntax is the invisible hand of content

nosidda.bsky.social•8 hours ago

IP laws can really suck, but they exist for a reason.

robsinstota.bsky.social•1 day ago

I wonder how much IP Elmo’s companies have…

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