The interesting thing is that recently Democrats haven’t done any of this— they laser focused on middle class messaging in the last election. And they had serious receipts from the Biden Administration. It didn’t seem to matter.
This is crap. The argument has been mostly lost for decades due to manipulation of social conservatism in the working class for economic gains for the rich. The end of balanced reporting in media was nail in coffin. This guy is blaming another group of vulnerable people just like magats.
That's only part of the story. Pie is right too. In my circles I've seen many previously left wing people turn away in disappointment and anger, especially women. Maybe not your circles so you haven't seen it.
In the United States the sexes are supposed to be interchangeable and when they aren’t, it makes women unequal. Because our documents say all men are created equal. If Women are not equal to men then they are not equal.
This principal was used to grant gay marriage. And the right to cross dress.
Yep, the genuine "left" are all on the fringe of our respective parties now, after years of being labelled "communists and marxists" (mostly by people who can't actually define those words) and "terrorist sympathisers" because we're not okay with genocide.
It’s pretty simple, this last election they tried so hard to make celebrities be the push for voters which it’s cool that lil John is a democrat but that’s not going to push people to vote. We need to hear more from the nominees and what they plan to do
The harsh thing is most of Biden's legislation was 100% for the working class, but it mattered less than inflation and/or culture wars overreach by the left to enough of those people to bring Trump 2.0 about
Is there a political left anymore? In the uk we have the green party and i’ll be honest i didn’t see the Democrats in the states as left but more central like labour. Everyone has pandered to the right.
The US has a Green party (Jill Stein) and the left-wing independent Cornel West. Both are left-center.
Kamala is a bit too far right to be centrist imo.
Jonathan you’re wrong because my representative won a three times Trump voting district. And she supports trans rights.
Republicans don’t support free speech, they are doing mass books censorship campaigns. They have removed thousands of books from schools where they hold seats.
What Americans don’t support is stuff like student loan debt forgiveness. They thought it was like a giveaway to the rich. And of course they’re like really angry about stuff like that. And then there’s that group of people that sat out because of Israel. Anti war movement done that for a long time.
that doesn't really explain why the working classes voted fascist though. fair point that the left has lost its way. this is true everywhere it seems.
in terms of the vote the odd thing is how a small majority can be taken as a mandate to piss all over everyone.
I've seen a few graphics that suggest 33% or thereabouts didn't vote. I'd like to see the breakdown of that portion: maybe it would explain some of the shift - did more of the working class voters feel abandoned by both parties and didn't think there was any point?
We have to remember that we have & are being flooded with propaganda to get us fighting with each other, so the Richie Rich of the world can keep there power and gold all to themselves
Ah, bull. The left (more centre really) lost the propaganda (lie) war in the US. When their target demographic in the working class says thing like “that affordable care act has been great for my healthcare but I’m totally against commie Obamacare” (a quote I saw)…. that’s a communication issue
Yeah and stuff like being against student loan forgiveness. Because they think it’s a giveaway to the people who are well off. Or being upset at migrants being put up in hotels in New York. A bunch of grief. But you look at Golden and Perez and they both support trans rights and won Trump districts.
How long will it be before 'the right', Trump supporters and MAGAs, now hungry, poor and unable to get health care or meds, finally realise what's been done to them and become 'the left', rising up against their own leadership? 🤔
We do have a left wing. It isn't the Democrats, as being slightly less right still puts them in the right.
I'm talking Cornel West and Jill Stein.
But nobody ever wants to vote third party because "they won't win"
You didn't win against the most extreme person we've seen in politics.
New strategem.
Sorry but Jill is a grifter. She only comes out for presidential elections. Why doesn’t she get into congress or is that beneath her. Cornell was a very left minded man but he’s not palatable? 🤷🏼♀️
The media is partially the reason as, iirc, they won't platform any candidate they don't see getting like 5-8% of the vote, making the lesser known candidates even lesser known.
Not easy to run for president if you don't have a ton money.
Unless you're Sanders. Then the DNC just kills your campaign.
So what exactly? He chimes with them, they chime with him.... nothing to do with what's right, or appropriate, just popular. Certainly doesn't illuminate anyone.
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This principal was used to grant gay marriage. And the right to cross dress.
"The people divided will always be defeated."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3XO_ee9VeY&list=PLF9F59D36819426DF&ab_channel=JonathanPie Epic rant from across the pond, more please. 🌊 🌎 #trolligarchy #wtf-usa
Kamala is a bit too far right to be centrist imo.
Was bound to happen with a trying to get fair representation with a two party system.
Or as they say; elephants and asses, screwing the masses.
Republicans don’t support free speech, they are doing mass books censorship campaigns. They have removed thousands of books from schools where they hold seats.
We need to demand more than 'slightly to the left of right wing lunatics'
in terms of the vote the odd thing is how a small majority can be taken as a mandate to piss all over everyone.
I'm talking Cornel West and Jill Stein.
But nobody ever wants to vote third party because "they won't win"
You didn't win against the most extreme person we've seen in politics.
New strategem.
Guess we deserve what we have then.
Hope it works out in the end.
Not easy to run for president if you don't have a ton money.
Unless you're Sanders. Then the DNC just kills your campaign.
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