This is like saying parents saved money by not feeding their kids as much and skipping doctors’ appointments. People were actually using the services he’s killed off, among them veterans. - ThreadSky

dell.bsky.social • 2 days ago

This is like saying parents saved money by not feeding their kids as much and skipping doctors’ appointments. People were actually using the services he’s killed off, among them veterans.

Reposted from Bloomberg News

DOGE says it has saved $55 billion in federal spending so far, but its website only accounts for $16.6 billion of that

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sebastian2.bsky.social•2 days ago

They just shut down the JFK Library in Boston, too. When Trump finally keels over? I hope that traitorous, mango-faced son of a bitch's library burns to the ground.

rvaeagle.bsky.social•2 days ago

We'll only lose a few classified documents from the bathroom at Mar A Lago if that happens

petelester.bsky.social•2 days ago

Let me know when it burns, I’ll bring lawn chairs and refreshments. We can chill and toast to the destruction of a despot’s library.

bole7y.bsky.social•2 days ago

Exactly. The costs in human life, wellbeing and safety need to be factored in, too….

peter-butler.bsky.social•2 days ago

even if you ignore the starving children (which we should not do) how much will domestic cuts impact revenue? that seems ignored

https://www.reuters.com/world/halt-us-aid-cripples-global-efforts-relieve-hunger-2025-02-06/

b-kellyjr.bsky.social•2 days ago

But of course you cannot believe a single number provided by DOGE. It's a make-believe world with deadly, real world consequences.

nighttrace.org•2 days ago

It also relies on *NOT* counting on any value generated by the dollars cut and roughly half of the $16.6 is because they misread 8 million as 8 billion.

sondeerrf.bsky.social•2 days ago

Great analogy

thanksihateit603.bsky.social•2 days ago

$16.6 billion to cause a regional recession that may quickly spread beyond the region.

jegbuddy.bsky.social•2 days ago

The Biden administration identified fraud originating from programs established during the Trump administration, particularly related to COVID-19 relief efforts, $200 billion PPP & EIDL, $163 billion Unemployment Insurance Fraud, $175 billion Provider Relief Fund Misuse

astral66.bsky.social•1 day ago

Call it what it is: DOGEshit.

paulcallahanmv.bsky.social•2 days ago

I take claims like this and divide them by 300 million before bothering to evaluate the accuracy. Doing very rough math, that's a "whopping" $200 per capita, and significantly less if you use precise values.

This guy Musk, he ain't too good with numbers, is he?

gravelinfluencer.bsky.social•2 days ago

There was some article I saw about the NIH overhead rate cuts that talked about "saving" $4 billion or something, and sure, I guess that math works if you don't count all of the people who will die from research that is cut or the lost jobs at universities and hospitals.

renaissancedreamer.bsky.social•2 days ago

New regime:

Cancer research: Billions
People dying: Priceless.

bringthenoise.bsky.social•2 days ago

And also all the loss of revenue from the giant recession this is going to create.

bkv63.bsky.social•2 days ago

Yes - people with jobs that pay all sorts of taxes and consume a lot.

People who thought they had steady jobs, people with kids in college.

All so 1 guy didn’t go to jail and another who wants to be a trillionaire.

warrenwp.bsky.social•2 days ago

I don't want to to click on it but I would like to know who wrote it. I honestly want to call them and ask if they just weren't paid what they were promised for thier bullshit work if they would cheerfully call *that* theft "savings"?

crookedbridge.bsky.social•2 days ago

Anyone can cut costs. Doing it in a way that does not degrade service delivery takes thought.

floatippity.bsky.social•2 days ago

He’s literally wearing a black hat!!! Has anyone learned anything from westerns? (Along with the fact it means ‘evil hacker’)

floatippity.bsky.social•2 days ago

It’s going to cost untold billions more in repercussions.

floatippity.bsky.social•2 days ago

Perfect illustration.

renaissancedreamer.bsky.social•2 days ago

Hmmm only costs $38.4 million of the taxpayer’s (missing) money to pay their staff to remove the services for taxpayers for net savings of 16.6 million + taxpayer bonus of listeria, lost cancer research, bird flu, lost data, nuclear “issues” & who needs national parks anyway amirite?

renaissancedreamer.bsky.social•2 days ago

Argh! I meant billions. BILLIONS!
So so sooooo much worse.

trubbagirl.bsky.social•2 days ago

We should be suing this pos at every opportunity. We just lithely granted him the keys to the government. He’s evil and should be deported.

alvie2.bsky.social•2 days ago

Musk is just a liar - he is using his time to benefit himself and create more power ...

nazgulslayer.bsky.social•1 day ago

Don’t believe it. And however much it is, only the top of the money tree will get any of the savings, and hundreds of thousands in the middle and bottom will suffer.

bigredfutbol.bsky.social•1 day ago

News outlets should never use quotes as part of a headline. That’s a hill I will die on.

jroylake.bsky.social•2 days ago

Even at the lower figure, that’s taking $16.6 billion out of circulation in the economy. People with jobs spend money. People without jobs try not to.

hellokeenan.bsky.social•2 days ago

And they pay taxes! A good chunk of money that goes out to pay salaries and contractor salaries comes right back to the gov in taxes. Some of their "savings" is actually just robbing other programs and states through reduced tax revenue.

lenecharlotten.bsky.social•2 days ago

Chek that son of a .. https://bsky.app/profile/mommamia.bsky.social/post/3likwb63b6k2b

spaceape777.bsky.social•2 days ago

They lie, with no conscience, without any repercussions.

rebeccaswh.bsky.social•1 day ago

Douche

adinfinitum.bsky.social•2 days ago

Musk is doing to the US federal government what he did to Twitter: killing the value proposition. But in this case, there's no alternate platform for consumer protection or air traffic control.

choppersms.bsky.social•1 day ago

Cutting people and programs are not saving anything! It’s cutting. Then they are afraidnofnpissong people off so teasing to give taxpayers money. No the idea is to find waste to save and reduce the 7 trillion deficit Trump caused

sentientdinonugget.bsky.social•2 days ago

I saved thousands this month by not paying my mortgage!

strangebirds.bsky.social•2 days ago

and they are claiming immediate savings for programs where some of the money has been spent already and the rest is earmarked for spending over a set period of years. It’s bad faith arguments for bad faith actions.

victorzilla.bsky.social•2 days ago

lizzius.bsky.social•2 days ago

Here's another correlate, Dell: some of these contracts are expense managed. They are "saving" money in the same way you would if you cancelled a high limit credit card with 5% usage. The limit is high for contingencies that are rarely used (and must be approved if invoked).

justtim99.bsky.social•2 days ago

Elon better cough up the difference💰💰💰💰💰💰

hercluesmooligan.bsky.social•2 days ago

Yup, the Republican way of saving money is refusing to change your oil ever.

It's not frugal it's cheap, and being cheap is expensive.

sockpuppetpundit.bsky.social•2 days ago

Learned a bit about GSA leases yesterday. Yeah, there's shady in-dealing. But they're just going to end leases with current vendors to start leases with their shady billionaire VC friends. Removing the IGs is just a way to make the shady in-dealing easier.

olympicdane.bsky.social•2 days ago

If I stopped paying for my car, I would not have saved money if it meant I was losing my job. This is so stupid.

shaydee5.bsky.social•2 days ago

Any guess as to where the rest of the money went? Or, he's probably lying about all the so-called savings. He claims he's going to send money back to the people but I doubt it will ever happen.

thisgrayarea.bsky.social•1 day ago

As a single mom I often had to go without much food for myself & rationed energy use&skipped my appointments just to make ends meet for their well being. Now that my children are grown up&moved out I still do that so I can help them afford to live above meger means. Saving$ is a matter of priorities

thisgrayarea.bsky.social•1 day ago

Musk has never had to do that for his children. He has never had to be a parent that must provide for the care of your child yet have to make the hard choices about what costs to cut to keep their heads above water. He lacks sympathies for the plight of the lower echelons of American society.

thisgrayarea.bsky.social•1 day ago

That is why he seems callous in his sweeping actions. He has no sensibilility to relate to what sort of harm he might be causing those relevant stakeholders whom his choices are direct&indirect causing harm. And he doesnt care to know any better. He literally lacks empathy as a human trait.

thisgrayarea.bsky.social•1 day ago

He generalizes "things will get tough" for some but that is just him acknowledging that people he doesnt know and whom cant do anything FOR him in some transactional way will suffer in some form but he is perfectly ok with that consequence because his desired outcome justifies it all for him

thisgrayarea.bsky.social•1 day ago

The silver lining in all this is beginning to emerge. Im grateful when I see others recognizing it too.

thisgrayarea.bsky.social•1 day ago

My fellow Americans are finally waking up to discover what America stands for. Moving beyond pop culture refrences and patriotic themes.. we are getting to know who we are as a people as a nation. understanding who we are to the world,as we learn&grow from the struggle for our freedom once again.

phidphriend.bsky.social•2 days ago

DOGE is literally my parents.

jbsp.bsky.social•1 day ago

So 55 billion in a what 3 trillion dollar budget?! Way to go Musk. How did such a moron become so wealthy? Oh wait government welfare.

bourgeois-plebeian.bsky.social•2 days ago

I just saved a bunch of shoe $ by chopping off my feet, but I also am a genius!

thisgrayarea.bsky.social•1 day ago

*giggle*

radiobill.bsky.social•2 days ago

And they want us to find that to be an impressive number until you realize they want to ADD $4 TRILLION from tax cuts.

justinhallock.bsky.social•2 days ago

Can’t wait for the stats around unique visitors to DOGE website, average minutes spent on it, and other very important engagement rates. That’s where the real value is.

purplemarsalien.bsky.social•2 days ago

Well, that is exactly how they do expect parents to save money. They view food and healthcare as a privilege.

dsec1.bsky.social•2 days ago

When do they start addressing the revenue side of the equation?

504spyboy.bsky.social•2 days ago

Revenue? It all belongs to Musk now. He and his neo-Nazi black hat dark web pedophile-enabling hackers are transferring the entire US Treasury to untraceable offshore bank accounts. Don't believe me? Prove me wrong. You can't, can you? See the problem?

caderoux.bsky.social•2 days ago

They don't; Musk is shit with revenue. Just look at his businesses.

svetbeard.bsky.social•2 days ago

Just think of how much money farms could save by mowing down all the crops and cutting irrigation needs to 0. With all the money saved on water, we’ll live like royalty!

mech0t1.bsky.social•2 days ago

harryfinch.bsky.social•2 days ago

Thinking of having my digestive system removed to save grocery money.

mjk4mj.bsky.social•2 days ago

Like Tesla, save money by ordering shitty parts, when those shit parts fail, blame your customers. If everything Musk was doing was on the up and up he'd happily testify before Congress, but he's afraid to testify. https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-musk-steering-suspension/

mjk4mj.bsky.social•2 days ago

November 2024: "Extreme poverty soars to affect six million in Argentina, ..." https://www.batimes.com.ar/news/argentina/extreme-poverty-soars-to-affect-six-million-in-argentina-study-shows.phtml
Two fat right-wing pieces of shit who will never miss a meal. https://www.agenzianova.com/en/news/Argentina-President-Milei-Meets-Musk-in-New-York-Third-Meeting-in-Six-Months-Video/

chrisneyland.bsky.social•2 days ago

And all of the $16 billion is a lie.

amandao123.bsky.social•2 days ago

I read 55 million?

sudhof.me•2 days ago

Microeconomics-brain. Doesn't understand that one's spending is another's income, certainly not what that means at government magnitude.

ethelredhorse.bsky.social•2 days ago

And even if he saved $55B, he saved a *fraction of a percent* of government spending, ~.8% to be specific.

ethelredhorse.bsky.social•2 days ago

Which is to say this, he's caused immeasurable pain for a rounding error's worth of gain.

trexcapades.bsky.social•2 days ago

And all of the job losses, knock on effects that will lead to and has led to loss of life comes in at 4.1% of Elon's net worth... (16.6/400).

There's more to being human than robotic, heartless intelligence and analyzing numbers on a spreadsheet.

apowhichiapi.bsky.social•2 days ago

$55 billion?
What’s the cost of not having Natl Parks open?
What’s the cost of not having somebody watching our nuclear stock pile?
What’s the cost of ignorance when we close of the Dept of Education?
And what’s the cost of all the lawsuits when the federal employees Sue and then win?

subvet.bsky.social•2 days ago

Cutting services without understanding their purpose or use will end up being more expensive in the long run.both in cash and suffering.If you look at something and say ‘it’s costing too much’ you may find efficiencies, but you just can’t do away with it.

amicusopus.bsky.social•2 days ago

Remember how Arthur Andersen collapsed overnight when they fell under suspicion of needing a criminal investigation?

That shows that neither Trump nor his Muskaswamy lickers understand the business they are in, beyond as a dis-info op to replace career expertise/people with TrumpToadZeros.

stephenswithaph.bsky.social•2 days ago

🎯🎯🎯

simba46.bsky.social•2 days ago

Feb 28... Buy NOTHING Day!
Get your essentials before then and buy NOTHING on Feb. 28. Show our influence on the economy.

steeleleets.bsky.social•2 days ago

https://generalstrikeus.com/

mrdickpound69.bsky.social•2 days ago

He’s “saving billions” by making people lose everything from their jobs to their healthcare to their benefits and more. There will also be massive economic damage.

torachan.bsky.social•2 days ago

Right? Even if the really did cut $100B in spending...it was necessary stuff!

matheffect.bsky.social•2 days ago

After buying twitter, he "cut costs" by not paying bills. And was lauded as an excellent businessman by the media.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/24/musks-twitter-has-been-sued-by-at-least-six-companies-for-unpaid-bills.html

davthorne.bsky.social•2 days ago

How many billions could be saved by eliminating DOGE, has DOGE gotten access to itself yet

samoart.bsky.social•2 days ago

Using the services and doing excellent work as employees. And making the world better.

pndrp.bsky.social•2 days ago

DOGE savings are as inflated as Tesla’s stock price.

onkey.bsky.social•2 days ago

It’s like Trump stiffing his contracts, not waste or fraud

larsericjoakim.bsky.social•2 days ago

Veterans got to be the only ones that are greateful for being peed on. Again and again and again...

postsenjoyer.bsky.social•2 days ago

So frustrating how campaigning for universal healthcare or framing our gov’t budget in MMT-esque terms gets you scolded for wanting “ponies for everyone.” Then, we have to pretend like these people are serious business adults whose plan is to just never pay the bills.

nothingsmonstrd.bsky.social•2 days ago

Tesla could save a lot of money by closing down its factories and firing all its workers. Or they could just fire their CEO.

theglassspider.bsky.social•2 days ago

In the end, they'll have saved NOTHING and costs TRILLIONS.

carrieinthecity.bsky.social•2 days ago

Does that include the 8b
that is actually 8m?

eruanion.bsky.social•2 days ago

He also just suggested that he pay us all a 5k "dividend" which would be close to 2 trillion. I think it is a ploy to get us all to support him
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/global-trends/us-news-elon-musk-doge-dividend-james-fishback-will-americans-get-a-refund-of-5000-from-elon-musk-all-about-doge-dividend-plan/articleshow/118393131.cms?from=mdr

harryfinch.bsky.social•2 days ago

$5k to betray my country. Insulting on several levels.

thisgrayarea.bsky.social•1 day ago

He bribed people during the election. Musk is operating under the belief that little green pieces of paper are the source of happiness&if you give some to people they will do whatever you want. Even if you take a bunch away in the form of programs&give much more to the elite in the form of tax cuts

thisgrayarea.bsky.social•1 day ago

He has no sense of what is true value. Things like domestic order,systemic stability&economic equality.. all the things his "efficiency" is undermining.

thisgrayarea.bsky.social•1 day ago

There is a design concept in product engineering you get to choose 2 of 3 : speed, cost, quality

Musk chose speed&cost over quality

He sacrificed the gold standard for cheap thrills

garrettphil.bsky.social•2 days ago

Douche be Lying

neilanderthal.bsky.social•2 days ago

They are including the billions they would have stolen but culdn't due to the scrutiny ... they will take care of that later.

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