With the exception of the DCA crash, which was a disaster waiting to happen, these three weeks have not differed significantly from the norm. ATC is not involved in most crashes.
Anyone can check the NTSB database. 9 fatal crashes in the 2 weeks after 1/20/24 for example.
Also, days before the crashes, all air traffic controllers were offered the resignation package that other federal employees got. After the crashes they were told that, on second thought, they weren’t actually eligible for the deal, but the offer had still been made. Whoops.
Can't be certain, but on one of those nights, our little traitor in chief, Musk & the Muskettes broke into & raided the FAA. I remember my thought process as I read it from a staffer here.
"On April 14, 1865, a bullet wound spontaneously formed in Abraham Lincoln's head. Witness John Wilkes Booth, pictured here holding a gun for totally unrelated reasons, said that..."
What hasn't gotten much publicity has been the gutting of the air safety work force. Even before the DC crash, workers were being furlowed. Nobody in their right mind should fly until there is an audit of our entire air traffic safety syatem, from ground crews to ATCs.
problem is, with Elon in charge of any audit, he will simply use it as an excuse to gut air safety completely. And he will think he's safe, because he uses private airports
I see multiple postings reporting the tragic sacking of federal employees.
Who are the enablers in management doing this foul work.
Name and shame.
Dox for defence.
And remind them the last carriage is for them. That’s how it works.
Trump fired tons of Air traffic controllers and put a freeze on hiring more. There's nowhere else to lay the blame. These daily fatal crashes will become routine soon.
I don’t think air traffic controllers have been fired, just a hiring freeze and eligibility for the fork in the road. Which are bad enough in themselves, no need to exaggerate
Before fear mongering, let’s make sure we have facts. The DC crash was an accident. Nothing to do with firing the FAA head nor controller staffing. Controllers were not fired. I get why people are scared but do not jump to conclusions without facts.
NYT losing credibility with these articles. FAA is not all knowing and doesn't oversee foreign registered aircraft (2nd accident). The lack of top leadership for several years shows so it's up to congress to ensure there's apolitical consistency in that area
I flew across the country about 6 hrs after the Washington crash, to be with my Dad, who was in the ICU. He survived, thankfully, and I came home, but that may be my last trip. I used to enjoy flying, but now I don't think I can do it anymore. It's really not safe, and everyone should realize that.
Maybe some things will shake down by then. Congratulations on your Granddaughter- I don't have any, and I couldn't be more jealous, just picturing an adorable little bundle of joy.
I'm hoping so too, thx! Sorry, been there, went from my oldest daughter not wanting any kids to wanting three! We have one grandson that's 2 & 1/2 with a sister on the way 😍
Coincidental? Maybe not. Even brief, new efforts that are threatening, chaotic, distracting, can have catastrophic consequences in a space that requires superhuman focus and quick trigger reflexes. Obviously, they did.
The potential access of Musk's team to the FAAs highly sensitive software systems poses a huge threat to Americans' safety.
This should frighten the hell out of anyone who flies.
Delayed and skipped maintenance is not a new thing and may have contributed to some of this. But overall - I’m not getting on a plane anytime soon. And if I were a tourist thinking of visiting the US, I’d be making other plans.
The cool thing about this is rich people fly more often, so this is something that'll come to their attention in a way that closed schools, starving kids, etc won't
I'm not American, but from the reports I see being rich (and white) seems to provide some protection from gun violence, which is more common in poor and non-white communities
In contrast, rich people fly more than poor people
It is not safe to live or travel in unregulated Trumpistan. Republicans blamed Biden for every single thing. Democrats could blame Trumpists for everything.
Maybe the GODS are trying to tell us this is what happens when a country is so evil that they elected a rapist, sexual predator, criminal felon, who will grift every tax dollar he can get out of the country and tell us it us our fault for electing him. This is what the country gets.
🦋I'm absolutely positive that Mike Whitaker the Aviation Administration Chief who quit 10 days after Musk met with him...and Trump firing the heads of the Coast Guard and TSA and gutting the Safety Aviation Committee had absolutely nothing to do with any of it...😬
Go to @marcelias.bsky.social He is recruiting lawyers to assist government employees. 202-968-4490; [email protected]. Please retweet as much as possible. Get the word out. These people are illegally fired. They can sue.
Why do they keep saying the plane collided with the helicopter when it’s the other way around? Also they’re missing the fighter jet crash and like three runway accidents that caused deaths/injuries.
There was also an Air Force jet that crashed, the plane in Alaska, and 2 planes on the runway in Arizona. All in the last 3 weeks. I feel crazy—like I’m the person in a horror film saying, “Guys? Guys?!” And no one else has noticed there’s a problem.
The Alert system accessed all pilots in flight, the way the post is written it's like a casual blip in a system, it's not. It's the early warning Alert
After enough school shootings, we’ve become inured to the horror; how many plane crashes will it take? We are in for a rough ride (yes, I know that’s putting it mildly).
Airlines donate to campaigns, are publicly traded, & everyone feels the threat of crashing if it seems dangerous. This administration will be much more inclined to address this. Schools aren’t partisan, are government funded, and gun companies have powerful lobbies with loads of legal bribery.
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Yup. Mentioned San Diego. I just looked it up, the other fighter jet was two weeks ago also in Alaska. That’s in addition to the Alaska commuter plane.
The NYT’s coverage of Aviation accidents over last few weeks is as neutral and nuanced as a raging rhinoceros in breeding season. Come on people let’s try to be a little less obvious placing the a mock up of a Big Orange Guy pointing at the FAA and yelling “get’em)!
I believe this was all caused by the cuts the Trump administration made to the FAA, including the firings. These things should never have happened, this compromised the safety of Air Travel for everyone.
It has been evident that NYT is an authoritarian mouthpiece for decades, even more than a century. No offense but I think you are aware of their record.
This is just a more visual version of what is happening at every lever of our country. Imagine what we don’t see happening. Injuries, failure, and loss will all be symbols of this presidency and every moment makes it harder to put Humpty together again.
As a professional pilot for over 30 years I’m confident the tragic accidents in DCA/PNE were likely not a result of Trump’s placing lackeys in charge at DOT&FAA.
But I AM confident that Trump’s gutting/installing unqual’d loyalists at DOT/FAA will cause numerous accidents in the years to come
It looks like there have been three more crashes-- two midair collisions and one unspecified crash-- this week. (Someone else listed them in a comment).
It FEELS like a lot more than we usually hear about. I don't have the perspective to know whether that's just because we are watching, but...
It is the shark attack effect. In the 2 weeks after Jan 20 2024, there were 9 fatal accidents, none of which involved ATC. The DCA crash, of course, is an outlier and we will not know the cause for months.
All queryable on the NTSB website, which has not been tampered with by DOGE yet.
The U.S. aviation system is the safest in the world. This didn’t happen overnight. It happened because FAA “bureaucrats” formed industry work groups, provided surveillance, mandated CRM, investigated accidents, and enforced laws onto those who felt FAA laws don’t apply to them.
I wholeheartedly agree. Of those 9 accidents, 8 were General Aviation (sometimes incorrectly termed uncontrolled) and one was a returning medevac helicopter which took 3 crew.
Not safe to fly into/out of the US. All airlines must due their due diligence. The Nazi-Felon #HackedElection Admin, is unstable. No airline should trust any reports coming out of this dumpsterfire. #BoycottUSTRavel
I have a conference in San Francisco next week. I just bought an Amtrak USA rail pass. It may take several days to get from east coast to west, but nothing like seeing the USA in your Chevrolet .. I meant rail car!
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Anyone can check the NTSB database. 9 fatal crashes in the 2 weeks after 1/20/24 for example.
ETTD
Can we all say "Duh",
All together now:
DUH!
It’s the editorial edicts.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/09/business/media/newspaper-cyberattack-lee-enterprises.html#:~:text=Newspapers%20across%20the%20country%20owned,last%20week%2C%20the%20company%20said.
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Who are the enablers in management doing this foul work.
Name and shame.
Dox for defence.
And remind them the last carriage is for them. That’s how it works.
I like ground under my feet.
Not fire under my seat.
Chaos is not safe
Molly.
Ride bikes and trains
Earth is burning
Denial is bipartisan and deep
https://EcoShock.org
The last measure of a dictators takeover, is the military isn’t it?
I believe that has already started too.
like waste, fraud or abuse at all! 🤦♀️
https://www.foxnews.com/us/cause-deadly-arizona-plane-crash-revealed-deceased-pilot-identified.amp
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2pxe5qq7lo.amp
https://www.express.co.uk/news/us/2013076/new-hampshire-plane-crash/amp
...........
This should frighten the hell out of anyone who flies.
a jet didn't collide with a helicopter, a helicopter hit a jet
and since i'm here
2 jets didn't collide on a runway, one jet hit another jet
they may as well say "san diego bay crashed into a fighter jet" & "philadelphia town crashed into medflight while they're at it
In contrast, rich people fly more than poor people
I’ve been in the aircraft industry since 1983.
I spent 5 years in aircraft safety.
New FAA guy said he wants Elon’s teenagers to “fix” air traffic with AI.
That’s all I needed to hear to stay grounded.
I hope bankrupt airline CEOs enjoy the tax breaks.
I want them living in the cardboard boxes under the bridge since they didn’t want to fund housing for impoverished folks.
pretty soon airline accidents are going to be as common as mass shootings
https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lhz5rxhfrs2v
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That person is solely responsible for these crashes and casualties!!
https://pressofatlanticcity.com/3-trump-execs-2-pilots-die-as-helicopter-crashes-in-parkway-median/article_4071dbca-24e3-11e4-8835-0019bb2963f4.html
https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/planes-collide-at-airport-in-seattle-as-faa-takes-new-steps-to-prevent-helicopter-plane-crashes-231227973528
It's no longer safe. OTP vp
But he assures us it's black people's fault.🙄
Full video link
I am going on a vacay which requires 2 flights there and 2 flights back. I’m scared to fly for the first time in my life!
There have been 5 aviation accidents since the beginning of the year. Highly unusual
/sarcasm
Strong work, America, welcome to the kakistocracy.
But I AM confident that Trump’s gutting/installing unqual’d loyalists at DOT/FAA will cause numerous accidents in the years to come
It FEELS like a lot more than we usually hear about. I don't have the perspective to know whether that's just because we are watching, but...
All queryable on the NTSB website, which has not been tampered with by DOGE yet.
~Rick Wilson~