Molly… aren’t you a consultant? I mean, you’re always on MSNBC advising what the party should do. No hate here, but is this admitting you’re part of the problem?
Saw the new DNC Chair on MJoe this morning. Despite repeated questions about cultural issues that Ds poll poorly on, he said that their kitchen table economic message is what they will focus on. Nothing at all on cultural issue gap. I am not encouraged.
I think the worst thing was Bill Clinton deciding that he wanted corporate money instead of working class and selling out like the republicans did with Reagan. But the consultant class is top 3 worst things to happen to the Democratic party for me.
The problem with our elected Dems is that they can’t get out of their own way. When are they going to learn to divide and conquer just as Pres Musk and his golfing buddy trump are doing?
There’s certainly a role for consultants. Right now we need some experts in psychological manipulation and frankly confidence scams. We need to hone our ability to manipulate ignorant, low information, low attention span voters.
The worst thing that happened to the Democratic Party was Bill Clinton's 3rd way and the dismantling of the Unions via NAFTA etc.
Prior to that the big energy and money in the Dems was Union. Now they are just corpo like the GOP. They can't help workers because their owners won't let them.
it's like incestuous. too many advisers are dating or married to politicians directly, through friends or family. living next door. friends rather than colleagues. if you've never heard of The Cotillion, you'll figure it out.
Don’t have him do it in Washington, have him go to communities that are reeling from this administration’s malevolence. Get him a plane, and a staff. Somewhere different every week.
Yes and better yet do it without the existing party. Build an actual movement with organizers all over the country to work on issues impacting people and use it to take the reins of the party.
I think this is also a good idea because optically the more you can *demonstrate* the GOP's actions are bullying vs. justified as opposed to speaking to it (and what justification would they have for tamping down on this?), the better.
At a time when America is under attack, there’s a huge void in Democratic leadership. It creates a vacuum for trump’s gaslighting.
Democrats like Buttigieg that stand up for working class need to hold pressers every single day & call Elmo and trump out on their BS!
They reflect the current view and health of America. Nearly (90) million eligible voters didn’t vote in the last election. They don’t care, bring in the clowns.
trump didn’t win a mandate, he didn’t even win 50% of the popular vote, he won only 49%.
You’re right the majority 51%, voted AGAINST him!
He didn’t win by a LANDSLIDE, trump won by 1.6%, the SLIMMEST majority in history.
Harris’ unwavering support for Israel and Biden wasn’t the right message.
I don't want him burned out before 2028. He has a young family that missed a lot of his presence during the Biden administration. I'm sure he'll make the right decision when necessary.
I still can't get passed a group of teenagers throwing personnel out of the usAID bldg and not laughing at them and slamming the door in their faces! Talk about sheep!
Plus, I bet Pete would just love to spend lots of time on Fox as he already has fun with their dim-witted anchors. They can’t handle Pete. And that’s where the low-info viewers hang out. I’d watch Fox anytime he is on.
ANYTHING LESS THAN A JUNTA GOVT IMMEDIATELY JAILING TRUMP AND MUSK IS DERELICTION OF DUTY AND A FAILURE TO ACT IN THE FACE OF A FASCIST COUP STEALING OUR COUNTRY
There’s several democrats who are fighters and could make a huge difference, but concerning BOTH the Senate and House Leadership positions, the Dems are feeble, afraid to “get dirty”.
Walz could have been exactly what the Dems needed because he spoke his mind.
He’s not overly complicated and can speak to everyday Americans.
it’s too bad 79M Americans are Misogynistic and racist, otherwise Harris / Walz would be doing actual good things for all Americans, not just billionaires.
That's exactly what I thought too, thank you. They would have been a dream team. I really, really like TW. It's painful to know what could have been...
This started in the 90s with Clinton’s corporate-friendly centrism & the moving away from traditional working-class & union-focused policies to instead adopt a more business-friendly three-prong approach. It helped Clinton win elections, but it weakened the party’s connection to its historical base.
I've been shouting this online for decades now. The single success was Clinton's '92 victory, and some of these same people, and their proteges, having gained a stranglehold on the party 30+ yrs ago, have suffocated it by handing the party to their billionaire funders who pay their mega-fees.
In this time you need to go to the extreme ends of the spectrum for leadership. We have seen the Republican extreme. The Dems and others, and don’t forget the others like me, need to find their own extreme.
I want to know who the consultants were who told Harris to nod like a bobblehead when Trump said crime was at record high, when in fact it's near record low. She then hit him with an ad hominem attack. Woo, that showed him!
On the Right, the Maggots and the Christo-Fascists have no problem with the idea that the wealthy owning class is both privileged and untaxable. They think that the money means the owning class did something useful for society.
So the owning class is OK with having Maggots and Christo-Fascists in the Republican Party and the money flow is unimpeded when they take over. That's the Right and the Far Right being able to work together. Republicans in the Center Right go along because it gives them some power too.
On the Left the Democrats, the "Liberals" are also OK with the idea that the wealthy owning class is privileged and untaxable. Not to the same degree as on the Right, but they have to stay cozy with the owning class to have enough money to run a serious campaign.
The LEFT, progressives who stick to their principles, are rejected and pushed out of the Democratic National Committee. They are permitted not a SHRED of power, because the owning class knows that they'd be taxed if the Progressives controlled the Democratic Party.
The Worst thing that has happened to the party is forgetting we are the party of the Blue Collar working their way up or struggling. What happened when Joe walked the picket line with the blue-collar guys? There was a tangible rally.
I’m sure union autoworkers would have a lot to say about how the tariff’s will impact them— farmers too! Let the people who will be impacted the most be heard!
Yeah, & Joe Biden is our last elected guy. Meaning we haven’t forgotten anything. This is a narrative set by the radicalized right, who always project exactly what they’re doing onto us. R’s have made themselves the party of billionaires, by billionaires & for billionaires + the maga cult of rubes
I survive on a small social security and medicaid. Total income slightly under $1k a month.
Believe me,I have to have faith in both programs. They are the third rail of American politics. I hope you are better off, even if vulnerable.
The constituents stories and Alex Wagner’s “Trumpland” stories need to be the lead story on EVERY news hosts show. Just like Nichol Wallace did during COVID
Consultants can be just as out of touch with realistic views and demographic information. Get independent intake ( man on the street type of public information gathering )
Dems think it’s cute to get on the air and say how they wring their hands, etc., during elections You said on air during this last election that you were at a cocktail party in Georgetown (hello!) where everyone was freaking out about how it was going. You’re great but come on, guys, get a clue!
It’s so disheartening to see people like her to ride the coattails of the Democratic party but when shit gets rough, she’s the first to place blame on what “went wrong”.
Are they the ones responsible for the concept of "branding?" Cuz that's a totally inappropriate use of marketing -- it robs the Party of any moral compass.
The democrats still think Silicon Valley is their friend... Trump won in 2016 and 2024 because his team understood how social media works and how you can game algorithms. Democrats are still playing by the old rules thinking SV will help them. It didn't. It won't. Look at how it worked for Harris
The Consultocracy is a self-perpetuating economic ecosystem of candidate cash, consultants, pollsters, media buyers, creative shops, and of course media purveyors. Win or lose, the consultocracy wins. So no motivation to actually serve their candidate clients.
The worse thing to happen to the Democratic Party are old white guys afraid to share power. Time to step aside and let the younger people do this right.
Like what? Asking us for more donations? That’s all I have been seeing from any Dem reps, including here in Nebraska. I, for one, will not be giving anyone any of my money. I have a feeling I’m gonna need it when I get fired from my Federal job
Jane- thank you for this information. This is exactly what I have been looking for. I’m tired and I want my voice to be heard. Do you know where I would find the protest information? I didn’t see anything in the events. Thank you again.
I really wish we could stop blaming the Democratic Party and blame anyone who didn't vote, or voted for Trump. These people are solely to blame for the death of democracy in the US. They are not children, they should be shamed every single day.
But also, the US votes on a regular workday, with insufficient numbers of polling places and poll workers. Combine that with non compulsory voting and of course not everyone votes. Plus, if there was ranked choice voting, then a third party vote doesn’t have to be a wasted vote.
Republicans purged voter rolls, plus they outlined various parts of the plan in Project 2025. Evidence including Trump’s words suggests that some kind of vote rigging happened. And for two years, despite pleas, the Dems could have put safeguards in place and they did not.
Yes, of course. But there really are problems, structural & institutional, in the party that must be addressed. This is constructive criticism. They have been beholden to grifting consultants. There has to be change. The world we operate in is not Obama’s world. It’s Trumps.
The Democrats acted like doormats for Republicans to walk all over. Least they could do was a recount and investigate the election, especially since we know now that Musk has an army of hackers to access government systems and boasts it constantly.
Get Axelrod, Emmanuel, et al. out of the game. Put Democratic leadership on social media accounts doing interviews with podcast people and youtubers. The daily demcoratic briefing with someone like Pete Buttegieg is another fantastic idea. I'd start to donate $ again to pay for him.
The idea that a politician could actually get people to think or god forbid, change their mind is a completely alien concept to Dems now because of focus tested groups that try and second guess public opinion.
The GOP just shout about things regardless of whether they're true or not and win
I hear what you are saying. I disagree. I think theworst thing that ishappening is Democratic naysayers and online/media pundits publicly putting each other down and turning on each other instead of encouraging ONE LOUD VOICE with boycotts and/or giving feedback to our Congressional and local Reps.
But aren’t all of the “pundits” on this site acting like the consulting class? What about all of their constituents who voted for them?? Aren’t they giving their advice like the consultants?
We’re all giving our advice. Unsolicited consultations . So who do they listen to?
The consultant class turned the Democratic Party into a pay-to-lose hustle: lots of emails, endless fundraising pitches, and little if anything to show for it.
The Democratic Party has lost control of its *brand* - we are being endlessly grifted for $$ without knowing who will do what with the money we RUSHED to respond to the latest outrage. Consultant heads need to roll.
The first time I got really angry at a fundraising email was immediately after Obama’s first inauguration. I got an urgent request for a donation so Democrats could enact their agenda. We just gave them a supermajority. Why did they need more of my money?
I actually had some respect for Schiff until I experienced the unholy barrage of fundraising schlock designed by his campaign consultants that filled my inbox.
I was sick of begging emails & texts. Sometimes 12 a day with 1/2 from Harris campaign. $1B & they couldn't even win popular vote. Loved her & Tim but hated whoever ran campaign. Not doing interviews really hurt her. Who the hell thought it was a good idea not to have Americans hear her plans.
And to American business. I've seen more time, money, and opportunity wasted because the folks in charge think a bunch of twenty-something MBAs know more than them. GMAFB,
Just read the article, was it Alternet?, about current leaders being frustrated that the extreme increase in calls and demands from constituents are largely from progressive groups.
Yeah, better to be frustrated with progressives than to FIGHT AGAINST FASCISTS.
I would add to the list the Bros from the Obama administration. They are a bunch of misogynistic dweebs who have been surfing on his coattails for years, adding nothing positive to the party. They push the idea that we should leave marginalized communities in the dust (including women). They suck
That folksy, corn pone act of his while, during the election, he trashed MVP on MSNBC was too much for my nervous system. I usually only leap for the remote to change the channel when I see Katy Tur or Andrea Mitchell, but he got me there.
But no. The worst thing to happen was the collapse of labor, forcing Dems to beg capitalists for money to run their campaigns. They act like fence sitters all the time because that's exactly what they are.
So true. They thought putting a hunter as VP on the ticket would appeal to conservatives. Instead voters went with the billionaire born with a silver spoon in his mouth. The consultants are dumber than rocks.
I was in sales & Dems are missing the basics. Elections are not about politics, they are about selling. So yes, you are dead on. Democrats are trying to play chess & force people that don't know how to play checkers, to play chess with them.
The worst thing to happen to Dems is that left wing media wants to both sides everything, while right wing media goes pure propaganda. GOP voters get what they want from their media, we do not. The Atlantic, one of your employers, has actually been a drag on the party.
Nah
Letting Reagan get away with Treason was probably the worst
Then they let W steal 2000
Let Trump collude with Russia
And now they’re letting him dismantle Democracy
It’s not a phrase that I’m familiar with, so am reading it as if dems are consulting possibly some expert from how to reach out n grab folks attention. Pre election I was inundated with requests for financial support but never a “this is an outline of attack” plan. 🤷♀️
It includes people like Rahm Emanuel, Richard Morris, and James Carville. They've had the ear of Democratic leaders for decades and advised the Clintons, Obama and Biden to "be cautious, reach across the aisle, don't listen to people like Bernie, etc."
So: Even when Dems won races, they lost ground.
Democrats have lost their ability to talk to their constituents without a script.
They need to get out, in public, OUT LOUD and talk to the people and start throwing all Trump's sh*t against the wall and see what sticks. That's what MAGAs do.
Good for you. Glad to hear your Reps communicate but the larger Democratic Party does not. We need a spokesperson who communicates daily like @petebuttigieg.bsky.social, @aoc.bsky.social @chrismurphyct.bsky.social @raskin.house.gov
The Democratic Party does not have a cohesive message.
@murray.senate.gov is a good, responsive Senator. I never hear from @cantwell.senate.gov unless it's reelection time. I've emailed my new GOP rep twice and have gotten zero response. 🤬
"A consultant knows a thousand ways to love a woman ... but he doesn't know any girls". Frank's Place TV. Frank's (Tim Reid) lawyer Bubba Weisberger (Robert Harper). Good God the man was correct !
The Dems have issues, but there's no time to deal with that now. We need to get Americans to go after the Republicans. They hold the power to "legally" stop this madness. They are allowing all of this to occur. We need people protesting & demanding a townhall in their districts. Get organizing.
Kamala is 60 years old, she should have had her own political instincts built up by the time she ran for POTUS last summer. No one forced her to listen to the consultants.
Lots of bad things about a Dems. The old guard won’t give up what they still think is their power, and deflated Dem voters refusing to give $ or the time of day to party failures…
i think this takes agency away from the politicians. i think this is really who they want to be. they what to be the conservative R party of the 50-60’s. over-educated, high income voters, and business friendly. they think with the right magic words they can get elected and then do nothing.
Geoff fucking Garin shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a Democratic campaign.
'First, said veteran Dem numbers man Geoff Garin, summarizing their analysis, stop saying, “We’re not going back.” It wasn’t focused enough on the future, he argued. Second, lay off all the “weird” talk — too negative.'
The Dems dropped the ball and a one bounce recovery is moving further from democracy every second that clicks off the clock. The well planned execution of Democracy is going as planned with no expectations of prevention. They may have a Checkmate without firing a single shot. God help us!
Then Crockett, Raskin and others need to push on by Schumer and Jeffries. What should one think of those who actively stand in the way of those trying to stop a malevolent coup, and who stand idly by releasing platitudes from time to time? This was coming for years—clear as day—so those who
were hanging around while this coup gathered steam and did nothing, didn’t even mention it, maybe were so out of touch they didn’t even realize what was happening, are not people that anybody should be capitulating to. @raskin.house.gov @aoc.bsky.social @repjasmine.bsky.social
Dem leadership needs to be yelling: “Trump is letting Elon screw over Americans who trusted Trump. MAGA farmers, workers, retirees. DJT must say ‘Elon, stop screwing my MAGAs.’”
It’s not DJT support. It makes him choose Elon OR his adoring crowds. He’ll pick crowds. Elon has to go!
I heard that Schumer was using a Democrat donor to back channel to Trump. The governor of New York is not sure what to do about Adams who sold NYC to Trump to save his ass. Fire him. No money until I see some fight.
Schumer's time has long past. Jeffries needs to up his game, or step aside. As long as these 2 honorable, but ineffective weak leaders continue in their roles, the carnage will continue.
That’s what I’m saying if the men want to fall in line then let the women fall out of line and take over. Someone needs to stop that thief and Donvict.
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The Republicans engage big political activists who have a large media platform that can influence people and radicalize their voters, the Democrats have big consultants who are only after money and are stuck in the politics of the past. This is why they'll keep losing.
STOP GASLIGHTING THE DEMOCRATS ‼️THEY SCREAMED THIS MESS FROM THE ROOFTOP AND MAGA CHOSE THIS...WE HAVE LIMITED POWER AND YALL SO CALLED DEMOCRATS ARE FIGHTING THEM JUST STOP THIS IS NOT HELPING ‼️😡‼️
Truth. I was around to watch its emergence ("we have to go professional! must hire consultant!") and even then knew it was a bad, bad idea because it distanced grassroots volunteers who knew local situations.
The "no drama" era led to politicians insisting on "no noise" from the public or press. Not making waves or embracing controversy without everything being processed to death. Dems turned into stuffed shirts for mass consumption. But they started shying away from anything that involved pushback.
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She’s a journalist or dot-connector.
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Prior to that the big energy and money in the Dems was Union. Now they are just corpo like the GOP. They can't help workers because their owners won't let them.
Democrats like Buttigieg that stand up for working class need to hold pressers every single day & call Elmo and trump out on their BS!
You’re right the majority 51%, voted AGAINST him!
He didn’t win by a LANDSLIDE, trump won by 1.6%, the SLIMMEST majority in history.
Harris’ unwavering support for Israel and Biden wasn’t the right message.
That needs fixing first.
Cabinet too.
He will need heavy security
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/05/pete-buttigieg-mckinsey-business-democratic-2020
Truth for Both sides of the political aisle: All things in Moderation, folks.💯 IJS.
It refers to gerontocracy and implies a loss of memory. 😁
There’s several democrats who are fighters and could make a huge difference, but concerning BOTH the Senate and House Leadership positions, the Dems are feeble, afraid to “get dirty”.
I hope the Dems make this a National Movement and pound on the GOP
People need to wake up. Ambivalence isn’t an option.
Come mid-terms, the option to sit out and not vote cannot occur.
This is what got America in this pickle in the first place
He’s not overly complicated and can speak to everyday Americans.
it’s too bad 79M Americans are Misogynistic and racist, otherwise Harris / Walz would be doing actual good things for all Americans, not just billionaires.
They're definition if fortitude includes submission
There is no middle ground.
The WORST thing was the ruling that money is protected free speech. Money is FREE???
This is, apparently, true for some members of SCOTUS and the owning class, not for us.
Here is what happens.
But watch what happens to the Left
And the Democratic Party
So, the Progressives, possibly 10% of the population, are shut out entirely.
The Left and Center-Left are divided by the owning class and the need for money for their campaigns.
We need you to focus all your fire on Republicans, who are solely responsible for this mess and who are the only ones who can fix it.
Believe me,I have to have faith in both programs. They are the third rail of American politics. I hope you are better off, even if vulnerable.
Could you explain “the consultant class” as I have no idea what that means.
Thanks, Diana
You and the people like you, such as the leftist that joined the Nazis and put Hitler in the chancellor's seat, are just narcissists.
You are just hijacking the peoples struggle. You don't give a fuck.
they just finally came for the rest of us this time.
The GOP just shout about things regardless of whether they're true or not and win
We’re all giving our advice. Unsolicited consultations . So who do they listen to?
This is not 1998. Wake the fuck UP.
I got millions of them.
Yeah, better to be frustrated with progressives than to FIGHT AGAINST FASCISTS.
I agree
I don't watch any of them now and haven't since 11/5.
But no. The worst thing to happen was the collapse of labor, forcing Dems to beg capitalists for money to run their campaigns. They act like fence sitters all the time because that's exactly what they are.
“WE WILL WIN WE WILL WIN”
For God sakes, just quit
Take Hakeem, Durbin and Nancy with you
It was the failure of Reconstruction. (And Joh Wilkes Booth did that.)
Not everything is about now. It’s not all about us, now.
MAGA is the Confederacy. Bad strategists aren’t even a footnote’s footnote.
Letting Reagan get away with Treason was probably the worst
Then they let W steal 2000
Let Trump collude with Russia
And now they’re letting him dismantle Democracy
So: Even when Dems won races, they lost ground.
They need to get out, in public, OUT LOUD and talk to the people and start throwing all Trump's sh*t against the wall and see what sticks. That's what MAGAs do.
We do here and they are communicating with us.
Don't label all.
The Democratic Party does not have a cohesive message.
'First, said veteran Dem numbers man Geoff Garin, summarizing their analysis, stop saying, “We’re not going back.” It wasn’t focused enough on the future, he argued. Second, lay off all the “weird” talk — too negative.'
Crockett. Raskin and others lead the charge. Pathetic
It’s not DJT support. It makes him choose Elon OR his adoring crowds. He’ll pick crowds. Elon has to go!
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Do it now. Send this Nazi Packing.